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A Sword Without a Hilt: A Song of Ice and Fire/D&D 3.5 Crossover

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Sorry @Duesal I should have been more respectful with my answers about loot sharing.

I'm... I can't tell if your memeing or actually think they will go after stuff.

Inevitables are usually machines. They literally care only for their task and completing it. A Zelekhut will likely only be interested in having resources for it's next Target. So we can give it whatever.

Assuming it doesn't self destruct or go into a coma until the next god seeker shows up.
 
I'm actually hesitant of naming too manynew nobility in the conquered lands. Didnt we want to reduce the power of landed nobility? Better to name governors to countships as well as dukedoms in that case. Use Vaeros/baronship as the carrot for Westerosi.
 
Ok, @Duesal upon reflection I have lost track of when your meming or not.

Are you willing to split wealth for man power? Ever? Can I approach it on a case but case basis? What would you actually be comfortable paying someone to do?
 
bigbow said:
I'm actually hesitant of naming too manynew nobility in the conquered lands. Didnt we want to reduce the power of landed nobility? Better to name governors to countships as well as dukedoms in that case. Use Vaeros/baronship as the carrot for Westerosi.
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Speaking of which, I want to give Gerold and Alinor a nice province for themselves. Alinor can get her own Alinor to manage it for her so she can stay in Sorcerer's Deep.
zxzx24 said:
Ok, @Duesal upon reflection I have lost track of when your meming or not.

Are you willing to split wealth for man power? Ever? Can I approach it on a case but case basis? What would you actually be comfortable paying someone to do?
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I was only partially meming. I am in general not a big fan of sitting on the sidelines of such a profitable war even if I recognize the necessity of it, and calling in more firepower while we're busy and not able to loot only makes that worse. I'm genuinely nervous that the Djinn and Shaitan will do too well in the war and we'll miss out on millions of tons of adamantine and mithral that could have been ours, not to mention all the sacrifices or minions in the form of former slaves.

I am grudgingly willing to slit wealth for manpower, I just wish we could get more involved and loot more often.
 
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  • [X] Bring up the matter of House Sandviper and share news about your recent doings.
    -[X] In addition to telling him of Oberyn's exploits, which earned him land of his own in the heart of old Rhoyne and probably another half dozen offspring in the months to come, share with Doran the general overview of Westerosi participation in the Festival, including how many "Mystery" knights competed, as well as new political developments, such as learning of the Lads' growing operation in the Riverlands.
    -[X] If he isn't already aware, tell Doran of the expedition which will soon leave for Yi-Ti. Although time is short, invite him to send some of his people along with the expedition.
    -[X] Inform him about the Yronwood matter and tell him that he is currently in SD. It's his choice how to handle it.
    -[X] Ask him about his opinion on the dissemination of propaganda material in Westeros in general and Dorne in particular. We could spare Dorne from the operation, but that might be more incriminating then dropping leaflets there too.
    -[X] Ask him if he knows of any Marcher Lords that might be worth approaching.
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Azel said:
Reminder here that a lot of people really want to recruit Gerion and Lanna and legitimizing a Reyne would boot them out of their castle.
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Not necessarily. If we wanted to recruit Gerion and Lanna, we could just give the Reyne another piece of land in the Westerlands. It's not like there won't be plenty of lords there to cast down.
 
Duesal said:
Not necessarily. If we wanted to recruit Gerion and Lanna, we could just give the Reyne another piece of land in the Westerlands. It's not like there won't be plenty of lords there to cast down.
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If we legitimize him as Reyne, that would not be possible. Doing so implicitly acknowledges his right on Castamare.
 
Azel said:
If we legitimize him as Reyne, that would not be possible. Doing so implicitly acknowledges his right on Castamare.
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So we'd have to give them another piece of the Westerlands. Not a major issue but worth considering, since this 'Reyne' guy probably doesn't bring anything to the table other than the balls to poke at Tywin like that. And even that's debatable since for all we know he's only done it here, where he knows we can protect him.
 
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Duesal said:
Since that "Reyne" is here, I want to legitimize him as an actual Reyne.

When we find Brightroar eventually, he gets the sword. :V
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Hmm I think it would be better to table that until post conquest. We might have other uses for that name other than bestowing it to the first npc to pass us on a sidewalk.

zxzx24 said:
Sorry @Duesal I should have been more respectful with my answers about loot sharing.

I'm... I can't tell if your memeing or actually think they will go after stuff.

Inevitables are usually machines. They literally care only for their task and completing it. A Zelekhut will likely only be interested in having resources for it's next Target. So we can give it whatever.

Assuming it doesn't self destruct or go into a coma until the next god seeker shows up.
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From what I've understood of inevitables by reading the thread they sound like a race of Mary Sues that exist only to bail out the GM from a plothole. DP is far above that level of skill though and I think its unlikely he'll use them. Same for Ao.

And, btw, we're no where near in the clear with this Quest. Even a single encounter could soultrap or permakill Viserys at this level, and with him gone half of what makes the Empire tick crumbles. The Sealord noted this in a recent interlude even.

Though I do get where people are coming with this. One of the explicit reasons for the festival is that we wanted a victory lap with plenty of interludes celebrating our achievments, because we're happy to have made it till here. There's plenty of enemies out there still, and they're getting even craftier and deadlier/unique the more DP grows as a GM (which he's never stopped doing).

Even discounting the Epic Level threats (War Economy mode Brazen Throne, The Others, Shadow Emperor, All-In Tiamat, etc) there plenty of threats DP is keeping hidden. The whole complex world of the Court of Stars came out of nowhere (but foreshadowed, so it worked perfectly) and its a wonderfully built opponent in the heart of westeros and most definetively not a pushover.

Btw, congrats on that @DragonParadox, however way we resolve this, the Court of Stars is looking up to be a fun and interesting opponent, slotted right in the heart of Westeros in all the good ways. It filled a vacuum I didnt even know was there, and they feel really alive and well done.
 
Azel said:
I personally don't give half a shit about the two of them put together, but it's not a fight I will lead.
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With luck they'll be obligated to fight us, and we can kill them. Then after we loot the corpses we can decide what to do.

I've had my eye on that spell-turning circlet for a while now.
mrsean22 said:
Any else think a living Reyne is a little too good to be true? Like certain Lannisters hoping to get a inside man or who knows?
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It's easily checkable. There's a spell that can tell you about your ancestry, and short of that there's divination.
 
bigbow said:
Hmm I think it would be better to table that until post conquest. We might have other uses for that name other than bestowing it to the first npc to pass us on a sidewalk.



From what I've understood of inevitables by reading the thread they sound like a race of Mary Sues that exist only to bail out the GM from a plothole. DP is far above that level of skill though and I think its unlikely he'll use them. Same for Ao.

And, btw, we're no where near in the clear with this Quest. Even a single encounter could soultrap or permakill Viserys at this level, and with him gone half of what makes the Empire tick crumbles. The Sealord noted this in a recent interlude even.

Though I do get where people are coming with this. One of the explicit reasons for the festival is that we wanted a victory lap with plenty of interludes celebrating our achievments, because we're happy to have made it till here. There's plenty of enemies out there still, and they're getting even craftier and deadlier/unique the more DP grows as a GM (which he's never stopped doing).

Even discounting the Epic Level threats (War Economy mode Brazen Throne, The Others, Shadow Emperor, All-In Tiamat, etc) there plenty of threats DP is keeping hidden. The whole complex world of the Court of Stars came out of nowhere (but foreshadowed, so it worked perfectly) and its a wonderfully built opponent in the heart of westeros and most definetively not a pushover.

Btw, congrats on that @DragonParadox, however way we resolve this, the Court of Stars is looking up to be a fun and interesting opponent, slotted right in the heart of Westeros in all the good ways. It filled a vacuum I didnt even know was there, and they feel really alive and well done.
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Honestly I have yet to see people use Ao for anything at all in games or media. Mostly in those times the ones that get fucked are the gods, and typically only your usual suspects.

As for the Inevitables you'd think they would be reserved only to gross violations of laws of reality.
 
Lanna was sort of likable in her interludes, and she does have a good class that I don't remember seeing anyone else use. But getting her would be a bonus more than anything else.
 
mrsean22 said:
Anyway they can fake or even give someone the blood of a Reyne to make the story more believable? They got too have a few bodies they could use right?
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With resources they shouldn't have, yes. That requires either fey fuckery or access to a Flesh Forge, and even then they'd need a way to actively fool our divinations.
 
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