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Why not? At this point I can't see any negative consequences anymore.
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A Sword Without a Hilt: A Song of Ice and Fire/D&D 3.5 Crossover
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Panicking Lord Stark for one. And he's just not going to let Jon come to us at this stage (he's only seven), so I don't see the point in asking.
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That's something we should handle in person, although I agree.
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> Implying age matters
And wards and fostering isn't unusual either.
I'm editing my vote to say we'd be doing this secretly, of course.
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It will send Ned into a paranoid frenzy and make him wonder who else knows the greatest lie of the time. Which would be fun to do but let's deal with this debacle in person.
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[X] Travel to Ploughman's Keep to see if any Darry knights would be of a mind to join the festivities as a prelude to securing the House's full support
-[X] Talk to the Darrys about resurrecting Ser Willam Darry.
We have never once made contact with the Darrys, it's ridiculous. Bringing Ser Willam back is also something I've wanted to do since forever.
-[X] Talk to the Darrys about resurrecting Ser Willam Darry.
We have never once made contact with the Darrys, it's ridiculous. Bringing Ser Willam back is also something I've wanted to do since forever.
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Snowfire
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I'm...unsure if spamming Resurrect in this manner would be reasonable. I get why you want to do it, but there's a point at which someone should be allowed to rest. @DragonParadox how would Viserys feel about bringing Ser Darry back to life? I think this is something where his opinion matters.
I entirely agree on contacting the Darrys, though.
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I believe the thread had a discussion on this the last time I brought it up and ultimately we agreed to do it, but offer to let Ser Willam stay with his family and get his much deserved rest.
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1. Age matters because Ned is super protective of Jon. Some parents send their children off to be wards. Some don't. Guess what Ned never did?
2. We're not friends with Ned--at best we've got a tenuous ceasefire agreement thanks to the Long Night--so a letter detailing we know that he has our nephew and then asking Ned to hand him over comes across as weird and frankly more than a little threatening.
3. Ned is already going to be tense about hiding Jon because Robert is visiting Winterfell soon.
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Fair enough. I'd still like DP to weigh in on how Viserys feels about it, but that settles most of my concerns. I think Algalon has a point though. Don't do that Resurrection right now. We can do it as a minor action next turn, and then deliver Ser Darry home after he's had some time to adapt to the world. Or hell, he might decide that he wants to continue serving us. In the end, that should probably be his choice.
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I'm for resurrection. But Darry better sit his ass down. He has served us well so he needs to take a vacation. Was he married? Do we have a summer isles vacation home?
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Algalon
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He was Kingsguard, so no wife.
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No, he was the master-at-arms for the Red Keep.
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Ser Jonothor Darry was the Kingsguard.
Ser Willem Darry was the Master-At-Arms of the Red Keep.
IIRC he even has a daughter in this quest, she had her own Interlude appearance.
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There's a reason the Darrys are so loyal.
You guys are Viserys, but to the extent that he has sort of background feelings on the matter, he believes the decision should ultimately be up to the family and Ser Darry himself which it will be with the way the spell works.
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All of these points are correct! Except for perhaps the last one, he'd probably want Jon as far away from Robert as physically possible.
Which is why we shouldn't ask for his permission!
No, seriously. We aren't trying to make friends with Ned, we just want him to work with us. And the best possible scenario for torching his and Robert's relationship would be to have Jon's parentage made public while he's safely in Sorcerer's Deep. It wouldn't be very difficult to sell to the kid, although he's loyal to his family, living as a bastard ain't a lot of fun. Reveal that the Others are real and actively threatening him and his loved ones, he'd almost certainly accept heading to SD so he can learn magic from the best. Ned'll flip his shit, but I'd just say the debacle with the Other agent made it clear that Winterfell is not safe and Jon has a right to make the choice himself.
Snowfire
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Alrighty. So if we went to talk to the Darrys, we could potentially offer this, depending on their understanding and relative acceptance of magic as tool, not a force of any specific moral nature.
@LonelyWolf999 would you consider a modification of your plan to take this into account? Basically, use this as our first stepping stone towards that goal, instead of jumping straight to the end?
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Sure, I'll edit it in, although I thought that went without saying.
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If we want to start a civil war right at that moment, sure. Robert would go beyond flipping his shit, and Ned wouldn't back down from protecting his family.
Also, Jon Snow already knows about the Others. Dany told him during a dream visit.
He told Robb, and they promised each other that they'd stick together.
So I don't think he'll be entirely on-board with ditching Winterfell.
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How about we save this for when negotiating breaks down? It would be easier to play to his loyalties to his family then to pull this rash play.