I have no idea how to go about making one of those. I can kinda describe what I was picturing in my head, but I'm gonna have to ask somebody else to turn that into reality.
He started off at level 7 - an extremely skilled and lethal knight, but had a bunch of negative modifiers due to his age, depression, malnutrition, and shitty gear. As The Lads have been growing, he's essentially been adventuring and leveling up, so by the time of the tourney he's around level 12, has decent gear and a few looted magic talismans, and has shaken off a bunch of the rust and maluses.
His character would ideally be an intensely melee-focused combatant that can ride on horseback, and recently he's invested in leadership and diplomacy skills to reflect his changing priorities and demands ... if that makes any sense.
It's pretty unlikely from him to be able to push from 7th to 12th level in those circumstances, not unless he's been fighting monsters hardcore for a while. 10th level would be much more reasonable, IMO.
I have no idea how to go about making one of those. I can kinda describe what I was picturing in my head, but I'm gonna have to ask somebody else to turn that into reality.
He started off at level 7 - an extremely skilled and lethal knight, but had a bunch of negative modifiers due to his age, depression, malnutrition, and shitty gear. As The Lads have been growing, he's essentially been adventuring and leveling up, so by the time of the tourney he's around level 12, has decent gear and a few looted magic talismans, and has shaken off a bunch of the rust and maluses.
His character would ideally be an intensely melee-focused combatant that can ride on horseback, and recently he's invested in leadership and diplomacy skills to reflect his changing priorities and demands ... if that makes any sense.
It should be bringing a huge amount of cash to SD, will probably gain us a decent population boost, and should provide a sizeable bonus to immigration rates for years to come.
[X] Goldfish @DragonParadox, are any of the snek-people, stone giants, or CotF participating in the tourney?
WTFs of everyone not from SD should be priceless.
And on the matter of Snek-people: have we yet relayed to Riz'neth about eggs being safe if hatched at SD?
We didn't lay it out in the rules specifically, but I believe there was discussion about limiting magic to only the gear one had or the magic they themselves could us? Is that all right, @DragonParadox
That would mean no paying a Scholarium student or some other mage to buff you up pre-fight, but you're welcome to do it yourself once the fight has started.
I have no idea how to go about making one of those. I can kinda describe what I was picturing in my head, but I'm gonna have to ask somebody else to turn that into reality.
He started off at level 7 - an extremely skilled and lethal knight, but had a bunch of negative modifiers due to his age, depression, malnutrition, and shitty gear. As The Lads have been growing, he's essentially been adventuring and leveling up, so by the time of the tourney he's around level 12, has decent gear and a few looted magic talismans, and has shaken off a bunch of the rust and maluses.
His character would ideally be an intensely melee-focused combatant that can ride on horseback, and recently he's invested in leadership and diplomacy skills to reflect his changing priorities and demands ... if that makes any sense.
Make him a Chevalier 12 or even a Warlord 12. They both have access to diplomacy skills while being good at the whole "leading men into battle", the former is more cavalry focused admittedly.
Maybe he has a place in the Praetorians waiting for him. That'll do more than "shake off the rust".
We didn't lay it out in the rules specifically, but I believe there was discussion about limiting magic to only the gear one had or the magic they themselves could us? Is that all right, @DragonParadox
That would mean no paying a Scholarium student or some other mage to buff you up pre-fight, but you're welcome to do it yourself once the fight has started.
We have an entire melee competition that is for Large-sized combatants and Medium-sized ones with the balls to fight such opponents.
Here's the part making note of it in the original Festival planning;
--[X] NOTE: There will be two separate melee brackets, a normal one intended for Small and Medium-sized combatants and a Heavyweight bracket intended for Large-sized combatants, though Medium-sized competitors can enter if they choose. A competitor cannot participate in both melee events.
Does that mean Sandor is in the medium-weight bracket, or the heavy-weight bracket?
I mean don't get me wrong, he could probably beat a bunch of minotaurs, and if he's quite skilled a tussle with a stone giant wouldn't be quite automatic failure, but it would be sort of silly if he wasn't leveraging his advantage that he only really has against more normal sized people, both in reach and strength.
Or other insane shit. A mid-level Initiator is not quite as crazy as a mage, but far more dangerous (in obvious ways) than any low-profile knight could be.
I have no idea how to go about making one of those. I can kinda describe what I was picturing in my head, but I'm gonna have to ask somebody else to turn that into reality.
He started off at level 7 - an extremely skilled and lethal knight, but had a bunch of negative modifiers due to his age, depression, malnutrition, and shitty gear. As The Lads have been growing, he's essentially been adventuring and leveling up, so by the time of the tourney he's around level 12, has decent gear and a few looted magic talismans, and has shaken off a bunch of the rust and maluses.
His character would ideally be an intensely melee-focused combatant that can ride on horseback, and recently he's invested in leadership and diplomacy skills to reflect his changing priorities and demands ... if that makes any sense.
Starting at level 7 is pretty crazy though. Rhaella was a social PC who got the most intense social combat possible in-setting, and never beat level 6.
I'd have him start at level 5 - the utmost a trained noble with combat experience can hope to achieve. This crazy experience could maybe have brought him to level 6 or 7.
Suggested build for him: Human Paragon 1/Fighter 4/Human Paragon +2 (so total level 7, BAB +6/+1, 4 bonus feats and a decent amount of skill points with an excellent list. Use the stat boost from human paragon to mitigate ageing penalties to strength).
This is a build with enough bonus feats to be a decent fighter, and enough skill points to be decent at socials. It's also incredibly IC for a Westerosi: no weird or specific training, just the usual high-quality training nobility gets tempered by combat experience and HUMANITY FUCK YEAH.
It'll also let him cast spells +2 levels higher if he ever takes spellcasting training in SD (duskblade?), assuming a kind GM. I don't know if you're going to be taking him that way, but there option would be there.
I'm also not a huge fan of writing in high-level NPCs who serve us as Omakes, but considering our overall power level it doesn't really matter.
Does that mean Sandor is in the medium-weight bracket, or the heavy-weight bracket?
I mean don't get me wrong, he could probably beat a bunch of minotaurs, and if he's quite skilled a tussle with a stone giant wouldn't be quite automatic failure, but it would be sort of silly if he wasn't leveraging his advantage that he only really has against more normal sized people, both in reach and strength.
Starting at level 7 is pretty crazy though. Rhaella was a social PC who got the most intense social combat possible in-setting, and never beat level 6.
I'd have him start at level 5 - the utmost a trained noble with combat experience can hope to achieve. This crazy experience could maybe have brought him to level 6 or 7.
Suggested build for him: Human Paragon 1/Fighter 4/Human Paragon +2 (so total level 7, BAB +6/+1, 4 bonus feats and a decent amount of skill points with an excellent list.
Use the stat boost from human paragon to mitigate ageing penalties to strength.
This is a build with enough bonus feats to be a decent fighter, and enough skill points to be decent at socials. It's also incredibly IC for a Westerosi: no weird or specific training, just the usual high-quality training nobility gets tempered by combat experience and HUMANITY FUCK YEAH.
It'll also let him cast spells +2 levels higher if he ever takes spellcasting training in SD (duskblade?), assuming a kind GM. I don't know if you're going to be taking him that way, but there option would be there.
I'm also not a huge fan of writing in high-level NPCs who serve us as Omakes, but considering our overall power level it doesn't really matter.
By word of DP, most trained/experienced adults stick around level 3. Most people never beat level 5. Rhaella barely pushed to 6 thanks to high adversity, Targaryen blood, and trauma.
Barristan Selmy was level 10, people. He's a living legend. No way a kind old knight should be anywhere close.
By word of DP, most trained/experienced adults stick around level 3. Most people never beat level 5. Rhaella barely pushed to 6 thanks to high adversity, Targaryen blood, and trauma.
Barristan Selmy was level 10, people. He's a living legend. No way a kind old knight should be anywhere close.
I was using that scale for skill level. 5 would be highly skilled normal people, 10 would be living legends but still within rational human bounds. Benjicot was a step above 'highly skilled veteran' but not Barristan level, so he's on the low 'legendary side,' and had debuffs reflecting his dilapidated state. Now he's been going around seriously adventuring since we landed in the Stepstones and has leveled up a fair amount. At least, that was my logic.
By word of DP, most trained/experienced adults stick around level 3. Most people never beat level 5. Rhaella barely pushed to 6 thanks to high adversity, Targaryen blood, and trauma.
Barristan Selmy was level 10, people. He's a living legend. No way a kind old knight should be anywhere close.
A reminder that the 1-5 scale is something held up for non-PCs, and the "10 is a Paragon" is still a lower cap that existed before magic reawakened, meant to show that the world was still magical, and there were still paragons who could pull off things like Barristan did at Duskendale, or Jaime at the Whispering Wood.
A reminder that GRRM holds up Jaime to the standard of Aragorn in a low fantasy setting, and even with that previous analysis made in this thread that Aragorn was like Level 5, DP pointed this out, and that likely weighed in on how he measured his standards: Aragorn did some other things in the trilogy that would not have been possible for a level 5 PC, and yes, failed at some things that should have been mechanically trivial for him.
That doesn't change how DP factored it.
Also, if your characters in your omakes are PCs, it is no surprise that they faced challenges that would have slaughtered NPCs. They likely have PC classes and are eligible for earning XP like any other PC.
PCs stand out because they would even think to fight against monsters and bands of outlaws while outnumbered and outgunned. Exceptionalism is marked down through a combination of talent and kismet.
Make him a Chevalier 12 or even a Warlord 12. They both have access to diplomacy skills while being good at the whole "leading men into battle", the former is more cavalry focused admittedly.
Would starting off as a fighter than taking levels in that make sense? It'd go after what I wanted thematically, a hyperspecialized character branching out.
Would starting off as a fighter than taking levels in that make sense? It'd go after what I wanted thematically, a hyperspecialized character branching out.
