Not sure if the idea has been proposed for the praetorians but, why not make them more like the adeptus custodies rather than space marines so each person receiving the upgrade would hav wit personally tailored to them rather than having it mass produced.
These folks won't be mass-produced. Potential candidates are too rare and the cost to modify and equip them too high for us to be able to churn them out like we do regular Legion soldiers.
 
So I was just rooting through the library:
Journals of the Betrayed

By:
Rina Cox

Description: Written in the elegant hand of a calligraphy wyrm, this set of journals nonetheless seems outright drab at first sight, plain brown covers marked by nothing but a number indicating where they should lie among the library of Dragon's Roost. One could not guess to look at them that within these pages lies a history of war madness and treachery written by one most dreadfully betrayed, now turning her own hand against the enemies of life.

Content: +5 to all knowledge rolls relating to the Others, their magic, and their interactions with mortals, A reader who studies all the volumes for one week and makes a DC 12 Intelligence or Wisdom check at the end gains a permanent +1 to saves against cold spells and necromancy, increased to +2 against the magic of the Winter-Touched specifically.
We still need everyone to read through this book. So far Viserys has, but the effects of permanent +1 to saves against cold spells and necromancy, increased to +2 against the magic of the Winter-Touched specifically are far too useful to ignore, especially given the fact that the Others are wielding permadeath magic and we need every single edge we can get.
Draconis Compendium

By:
Relath the Roiling Tempest & Amrelath the Ash-Risen

Description: Though written by entirely independent authors, dragons of sea and flame respectively, this compilation of draconic thought is treated as a unified whole by the scholars of Sorcerer's Deep, particularly given the systematization of lesser lore around it. It pertains to history so ancient that none save the oldest of spirits or the dragons themselves can remember it.

Content: Any reader not already drawing wisdom and lore from the Dragon Dreams who spends a month studying this compilation may make a DC 20 Wisdom Check which if successful offers unique insight into the mind, mannerisms, and history of dragons, allowing them to choose one of the following benefits.
  1. Warrior's Insight: +2 to Attack and Damage against creatures of the Dragon type
  2. Way of Elder Magic: +1 Competence Bonus to spell DCs for one school of magic
  3. Lore of Wyrms: Gains the ability to re-roll one failed Knowledge check/week
Note: A character who has gained one of the tome's boons may not gain another upon re-reading, unless they have suffered some dramatic shift in perspective.
In preparation for the conflict with the Golden Company, we should have all our Erinyes read this book for the Warrior's Insight. +2 to Attack and Damage against Dragon creatures would be worth its weight in gold. There are 23 drakes with prismatic breathweapons, there's one older-than-adult Shadow Dragon, and there are sure to be other True Dragons that will be called down on our heads when we attack.

Besides, the other two benefits don't really fit the Erinyes anyway. They are warriors first and foremost, and it only makes sense they'd go for a Warrior's Insight.
On the Place of Lesser Spirits

By:
Various Reform-minded Septons

Description: dealing as it does with ideas that test the edge of accepted theology it isnot surprising that this tome is plainly found and absent even the modest decorations one might find in a village septon's copy of the Seven Pointed Star.

Contents: Even some of the authors were uncertain if such texts should be allowed to fall into the hands of the laity before they had been approved by the wider Faith but the lords of the Reach were not of a mind to wait with many of the essays circulating among the upper nobility and one particular example going even further afield. Grants +2 circumstantial bonus to diplomacy rolls made to argue for the acceptance magic and spirits.
This Viserys should cheat with using magic.
 
So are the praetorian stats going to be fixed? Cause if they'd have to had started with 6 or so in dex that's around the level a 4 year speaks at with intelligence and anything less than that is a couple words at best.
 
@DragonParadox, if we vote on it, can we order all our Erinyes to read a book over the course of a month or two in whatever spare time they've got?

They're not always 100% busy, so I figured I'd ask.
 
Dropping this here for later. Need to add equipment and decide those two remaining feats.

Praetorian Crusader, Initiate
Alignment: Lawful Neutral
Race: Human, Augmented
Class: Crusader 3
Feats: Power Attack, Improved Bull Rush, Dreadful Wrath, ???, ???
Flaws: Glory-Hound, Implacable
Skill Tricks: ....
Class features: Steely Resolve (Ex) 5, Furious Counterstrike (Ex), Indomitable Soul (Ex), Zealous Surge (Ex) 1/day

HP: 3d10 + 12 (29 HP)
AC: 10 + 2 (DEX) + 7 (Natural Armor) = 19; Touch 12; Flat-Footed 17
Movement: 30ft
Initiative: 2 (DEX) + 2 (Untyped) = +4
BAB: +3
Attack: +7
Special: Darkvision (120 ft.), Light Fortification (25%, if pierced, gain Fast Healing 3 for Con-Mod rounds, duration stacks)
Proficiencies: all Simple and Martial weapons, all armors and shields
Immunities: Resistance Fire, Cold, Acid 5;
DR: 2/-
SR: 5 + 3 (HD) = 8


STATS:
19 (+4) Strength
14 (+2) Dexterity
18 (+4) Constitution
17 (+3) Charisma
12 (+1) Intelligence
16 (+3) Wisdom
Note: For purposes of stacking, each attribute is considered to already have a +4 Enhancement bonus.

SAVES:
FORTITUDE: 3 + 4 (Con) = 7
REFLEX: 1 + 2 (Dex) + 2 (Untyped) = 5
WILL: 1 + 3 (Wis) + 3 (Indomitable Will) = 7 (11 against Mind-Affecting Effects)

SKILLS:
Balance
: 6 + 2 (Dex) = 8
Concentration: 6 + 3 (Wis) = 9
Diplomacy: 6 + 3 (Cha) = 9
Intimidate: 6 + 3 (Cha) = 9
Jump: 1 + 4 (Str) = 5
Ride: 5 + 2 (Dex) = 7
Knowledge (History): 3 + 1 (Int) = 4
Knowledge (Religion): 3 + 1 (Int) = 4

Secondary Skills:
Sense Motive: 3 + 3 (WIS) = 6

Stances Known (Initiator level 3):
Level 1: Bolstering Voice (White Raven), Martial Spirit (Devoted Spirit)

Maneuvers Known (Initiator level 3):
Level 1: Douse the Flames (Strike, White Raven), Vanguard Strike (Strike, Devoted Spirit), Crusaders Strike (Strike, Devoted Spirit), Charging Minotaur (Strike, Stone Dragon), Leading the Attack (Strike, White Raven)
Level 2: Battle Leaders Charge (Strike, White Raven)


Supernatural Abilities:
1/day Cure Serious Wounds, Remove Disease, Smite Chaos (CL = HD)

Extraordinary Abilities:

Scent
 
Part MMDCXXII: Spinning Gilded Webs
Spinning Gilded Webs

Fourteenth Day of the Eighth Month 293 AC

"I assure you, if I were here to give away a blade and ask for a slain dragon I would have taken my chances with the seating at the Red Keep. Bravery is something your King is rather famous for after all." The word is practically an insult upon your lips, one Baelish seems to find just as entertaining as you had hoped from his brief but you think genuine chuckle. Thus you continue to be the voice of temptation, not that you imagine the man before you needs much encouragement: "All I would ask you for is to give him counsel, as it is befitting of your position. As you said yourself the Lords of these lands are loathe to take care of the matter of coin, and all too easily something can slip between the cracks without the dutiful aid of men like us."

"You speak so sweetly of it I might almost fear for my position, magister," the Mockingbird offers an off-handed retort, to show he is not so entranced with the possibility that he would not look for treachery in your words. There might even be a genuine compliment to be found there, that he respects you or rather the mask you wear enough to be wary.

"A war takes coin after all, and the coffers of a realm often bleed harder than all the soldiers in the field put together, even if victory is achieved. It is the manner of procurement of those funds that I am here about, since we could gain a lot from aligning our purposes there," you take up the thread of your proposal unhurriedly. "Kings are always in need of coin, are they not? Thus hinting that the royal coffers might not be a full as they appear would only add urgency to the demand which you can then quickly satiate. Imposing heavy tariffs on the ever more plentiful grain and other agricultural products from Essos would hamper the Dragon King in no small measure, a fact which will I suspect be as music to your king's ear."

"The king may be as blind as a stag in rut, but the Hand is not so great a fool as to discount the peril of food shortages," Baelish replies as he pours two cups of Arbor Gold, straight for you and watered for him. If you pointed the discrepancy out he would doubtless reply with an appeal to Ghiscari custom. "If there is one thing above all else that can move the smallfolk to rebel it is the specter of famine," he finishes, his chilled gaze showing no more dismay over the prospect than any other inconvenience.

"But that is where you can present the council with the knowledge of the self-same magics that have made the Dragon's fields so rich, is it not?" you ask with a smile.

Baelish freezes at your words: "Where did you hear such a thing?"

"Your western lords are not the most tight-lipped, as you have no doubt used many a time to your advantage," you deflect, using his contempt for the highborn to steer him away from inconvenient questions.

He snorts in agreement, but still the suspicion does not entirely fade from his eyes, so you continue quickly: "The specter of food shortages can be sold to the king or the Hand as a way to shore up royal power, even as the lords fearful of that very thing would be all the more eager to take the lore you have to offer."

"And should famine become less specter and more flesh will you then have grain delivered from Slaver's Bay past the Dragon's stranglehold on the Stepstones straits?" he asks, making no attempt to hide the bite of sarcasm in his words.

"My patrons are not without contacts in the Disputed Lands who would be willing to sell for a reasonable price, including a small fee to make the authorities look elsewhere," you explain calmly, not rising to the taunt.

"At last an offer of more than words," he sighs. "You would not mind sharing those names with me then, as show of trust of course?"

"Trust is a rope that must be knotted at both ends, my lord," you remind him in the same placid tone. "It would be folly of me to give you the names of my associates based only upon empty air." Is he planning to betray the 'Ghiscari', you wonder, to sell the names of the treacherous magisters to you in preparation for the conquest? You would sooner sleep with a live scorpion under your pillow every night than use this man in any position of power, but he would have no way of knowing that.

"Then let us say I call for a more modest increase in tariffs to test the waters. Would that be enough of a show of good faith on my part to be offered that list?" he presses.

Inwardly you make a note to have the Inquisition be very careful about Littlerfinger's agents and to recruit some of the more friendly magisters into the scheme to better sell it while outwardly you feign nervousness, shuffling in your seat and licking your lips. "Part of the list with the rest to be provided once the full punishing tariffs have been settled."

"And once the first grain ship has sailed into Slaver's Bay, yes?" Baelish smiles slyly. "Do not be so surprised, my lord. Though I am not as well traveled as some I know well that those lands are not fertile even in usual times, much less when you have need of more grain and supplies to feed an army such as could challenge a dragon."

"You are wise, lord Baelish," you answer, the compliment more truthful than you would like it to be. Talking to him feels uncomfortably like holding a razor blade between your fingers. Were it not for the advantages that sorcery and experience of far more perilous bargains bring you might just have had to kill him here and now. "Your wisdom will be much appreciated in the east should the day come when Westeros is no longer hospitable to you."

As you had hoped the promise of an escape moves him as little else can. He would probably fit in all too well in the cesspit of Slaver's Bay besides...

He raises a cup and toasts enthusiastically: "To success my, lord Naegor." The clink of cups might as well be the bell signaling his demise, making the wine all the sweeter for it.

What do you do next?

[] Head to Dorne to deliver Balerion and speak to Doran and Elia about Varys's worrisome knowledge
-[] Write in

[] Do a festival interview
-[] Write in

[] Write in


OOC: You have time for one more action before Malarys calls about Melisandre.
 
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Dropping this here for later. Need to add equipment and decide those two remaining feats.

Praetorian Crusader, Initiate
Alignment: Lawful Neutral
Race: Human, Augmented
Class: Crusader 3
Feats: Power Attack, Improved Bull Rush, Dreadful Wrath, ???, ???
Flaws: Glory-Hound, Implacable
Skill Tricks: ....
Class features: Steely Resolve (Ex) 5, Furious Counterstrike (Ex), Indomitable Soul (Ex), Zealous Surge (Ex) 1/day

HP: 3d10 + 12 (29 HP)
AC: 10 + 2 (DEX) + 7 (Natural Armor) = 19; Touch 12; Flat-Footed 17
Movement: 30ft
Initiative: 2 (DEX) + 2 (Untyped) = +4
BAB: +3
Attack: +7
Special: Darkvision (120 ft.), Light Fortification (25%, if pierced, gain Fast Healing 3 for Con-Mod rounds, duration stacks)
Proficiencies: all Simple and Martial weapons, all armors and shields
Immunities: Resistance Fire, Cold, Acid 5;
DR: 2/-
SR: 5 + 3 (HD) = 8


STATS:
19 (+4) Strength
14 (+2) Dexterity
18 (+4) Constitution
17 (+3) Charisma
12 (+1) Intelligence
16 (+3) Wisdom
Note: For purposes of stacking, each attribute is considered to already have a +4 Enhancement bonus.

SAVES:
FORTITUDE: 3 + 4 (Con) = 7
REFLEX: 1 + 2 (Dex) + 2 (Untyped) = 5
WILL: 1 + 3 (Wis) + 3 (Indomitable Will) = 7 (11 against Mind-Affecting Effects)

SKILLS:
Balance
: 6 + 2 (Dex) = 8
Concentration: 6 + 3 (Wis) = 9
Diplomacy: 6 + 3 (Cha) = 9
Intimidate: 6 + 3 (Cha) = 9
Jump: 1 + 4 (Str) = 5
Ride: 5 + 2 (Dex) = 7
Knowledge (History): 3 + 1 (Int) = 4
Knowledge (Religion): 3 + 1 (Int) = 4

Secondary Skills:
Sense Motive: 3 + 3 (WIS) = 6

Stances Known (Initiator level 3):
Level 1: Bolstering Voice (White Raven), Martial Spirit (Devoted Spirit)

Maneuvers Known (Initiator level 3):
Level 1: Douse the Flames (Strike, White Raven), Vanguard Strike (Strike, Devoted Spirit), Crusaders Strike (Strike, Devoted Spirit), Charging Minotaur (Strike, Stone Dragon), Leading the Attack (Strike, White Raven)
Level 2: Battle Leaders Charge (Strike, White Raven)


Supernatural Abilities:
1/day Cure Serious Wounds, Remove Disease, Smite Chaos (CL = HD)

Extraordinary Abilities:

Scent
Gotta head to work so I don't have time to look it over too closely, but your HP calculation is off. The first HD should give maximum HP. They should have an average of 33 HP rather than 29.
 
Cat delivery is all well and good, but do you guys have a proposal beyond that? We need to decide what we want to do when the Lannisters inevitably discover Elia and Rhaenys. Do we tell Doran to ramp up his security, or do we simply ask Elia and Rhaenys to join us in Sorcerer's Deep where we can personally look after them?
 
Cat delivery is all well and good, but do you guys have a proposal beyond that? We need to decide what we want to do when the Lannisters inevitably discover Elia and Rhaenys. Do we tell Doran to ramp up his security, or do we simply ask Elia and Rhaenys to join us in Sorcerer's Deep where we can personally look after them?

Sorcerer's Deep would be much safer, so that's what I would go for. We can help beef up security in Sunspear as much as we want, it still won't be safer than Sorcerer's Deep now that we've got the House of Mirrors rolling and the Inquisition properly established. There's also rarely less than three Companions around, and it's an excellent location to test the waters around if Elia could learn magic herself. I expect she could match Rhaella's drive on that front, in fact, solely due to how much she's lose once already.
 
Cat delivery is all well and good, but do you guys have a proposal beyond that? We need to decide what we want to do when the Lannisters inevitably discover Elia and Rhaenys. Do we tell Doran to ramp up his security, or do we simply ask Elia and Rhaenys to join us in Sorcerer's Deep where we can personally look after them?
Let's take them. Rhaenys is a potential Draconic Sorceress as well.
 
[X] Cat delivery

Kind of want to question the cat to see if it knows anything important and maybe clone it to act as an anti-imp or quasit measure.
 
[X] Head to Dorne to deliver Balerion and speak to Doran and Elia about Varys' worrisome knowledge
-[X] Explain under standard safety procedures that at least one spy network has learnt of Elia and Rhaenys' return from death, and that it's quite possible that such knowledge will find its way to the Lannisters in the near future.
-[X] Although you've not done so until now, at this point the lives of your goodsister and niece could well be in direct danger if you do not act to protect them.
-[X] With no disrespect meant to Sunspear and its protectors, against the type of dangers that the Lannisters and those bound to them might bring to bear, the safest place for the two would be Sorcerer's Deep.
-[X] This is ultimately Elia's choice, and if she desires above all to remain in Sunspear, you can dispatch agents to supplement Doran's own measures. However, now that the most powerful part of her security measures have been breached, those would be of limited efficacy compared to the defences you've cast around the capital of your realm.

Basic outline here, if you want to expand on it, do so. I'm heading out for several hours and will be intermittently active at best for that time. Still, I think it should be enough to put things across. I want this to be Elia's choice, but we need to make clear that sort of choice that it truly is. All respect meant to Doran and what he's done, Sunspear isn't as safe as our capital right now. It never will be.
 
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Six months from now:

*Viserys teleports into the Throne Room in the Red Keep*

Robert: "What? Varys, you said that you have sent assassins to murder the dragon's get!"

Viserys: "I'm afraid that the real Varys is dead and this one has been serving me for quite some time"

Pycelle: *shocked* "You finally come, your grace!"

Robert: "YOUR GRACE? WHY ARE YOU CALLING HIM YOUR FUCKING GRACE?"

Littlefinger: "What a wonderful visit, your grace. It might sound too straightforward, but I know of a conspiration orchestrated by Slaver's Bay to lower the prices of your agricultural products. If you let me hand you this list of names..."

Viserys: "Those are my agents, I was the envoy who talked to you. You have been serving me this whole time, Littlefinger"

Robert: "IS THERE ANYONE WHO IS NOT WORKING FOR THE DRAGONSPAWN!?"

Glyra: *Drops invisibility from behind him* "Your wife! But she has been cheating you with your brother in law. In fact, all your children are actually his!"

Robert: "AAAAAAAAARRRGGGGHHHHHHHH"

Visersys: *Looks at his back and pulls Dark Sister* "Hello Planetos, my name is Viserys Targaryen in Mirror Vision, and this is FATASS"
 
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[X] Plan Viserys Targaryen, Bringer Of Cats, And Bad News
-[X] Talk with Balerion first if he wants his scars healed by Regeneration. He definitely gets hit by a Heal though and a cleansing with Presdigation.
-[X] Present Balerion victoriously to Rhaenys, then talk with Doran, Ellia and Oberyn (if present) about the knowledge of their ressurection leaking. Standard safety protocols apply. Assure them that you plugged the leak, but there is no guarantee that it didn't spreed already.
-[X] Offer them again to stay in SD, as it is safer and it allows Dany and others (Yss) to keep a close eye on Rheanys dreams.
-[X] We got a brazier in Sunspear installed, so they can call and we and the other Teleporters in our employ wouldn't mind to shuttle the Martells over regularly.
 
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[X] Azel

@Azel you may wish to specify which parts of Varys knowledge and how we're presenting it. If we tell them the source, and Varys is still on the SC, they might...do something Dornish. If we're going to explain the full truth, we want to have standard anti-divination countermeasures up.
 
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