B-Party padding. Inquisition Stormtroopers for the uglier cases. Later on, though this will take serious money, make them a Legion Company.

I'm still hoping DP greenlights a Crusader build for them. It's a very tanky class that greatly plays to their strengths.

I could see Crusader, once you get some martial lore from Yi Ti or just put Ser Richard on it.
 
or just put Ser Richard on it.
and talking about it, would you mind rolling for books that Companions write now?

Its been... 3 months, I think?

*checks*
2 full months, actually.

Dany 52%
Richard 39%
Lya 41%
Waymar and Tyene 61%
Garin 69%
Maelor 48%

and who's writing what:
Daenerys - On the nature of divinity, advanced scholarum manual
Sir Richard - Martial primer that would allow you to train a very limited number of martial adepts
Lya - On the foundations of magic and spell-casting, including tips on spell creation
Waymar/Tyene - Guide to harvesting and testing arcane reagents for viability
Garin - Infiltrator's handbook basically
Maelor - Book of Demonology and Abyssal lore
 
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Thanks for reminding me.

*rolls twice*

Dany, Tyene/Waymar and Garin are done

Richard 91%
Lya 73%
Maelor 89%

I think I'll just post the books instead of trying to make an interlude

Question, would Richard need to make a separate action for us to get Crusaders, or would making a Martial Primer allow it to sort of percolate by itself without a full action from him?
 
OK here's Dany's book. I'll get to the others as I come up with the mechanics.

Divine Permutations
Divine Permutations

By:
Dany

Description: Copies of this book are bound in plain dark leather, heir only distinguishing mark being that the title is written in three tongues: sharp edged draconic glyphs shaped more to be carved into stone than writ upon parchment, the archaic calligraphy of High Valyrian and the more simplified style adopted in the centuries after the Doom in Braavos

Content: Serves as a primmer relating to religion and the Spheres of being. Additionally having studied it grants +4 competence bonus to sense motive or knwolege rolls made in response to a false or misleading statement of a cleric or other divine servitor related to the power or nature of their god, making it a useful tool for detecting those who would hide proscribed cults and rituals behind the trappings of recognized faiths

Question, would Richard need to make a separate action for us to get Crusaders, or would making a Martial Primer allow it to sort of percolate by itself without a full action from him?

I would say the primmer is enough
 
I would say the primmer is enough
Talk about a lasting legacy. It's one thing to pass on some of your skills which few, if any, will ever be talented enough to make full use of.

This will go on to create unparalleled warriors gene engineered to bear the finest weapons and clad in the strongest armors.

And like him, they shall know no fear. Literally, have you seen their bonus against mind-affecting saving throws? :V
 
Content: Serves as a primmer relating to religion and the Spheres of being. Additionally having studied it grants +4 competence bonus to sense motive or knwolege rolls made in response to a false or misleading statement of a cleric or other divine servitor related to the power or nature of their god, making it a useful tool for detecting those who would hide proscribed cults and rituals behind the trappings of recognized faiths
Ni~ice.
Can we assume to have this be Inquisitor's handbook in addition to guide on Daemonic cults we passed out to them all earlier?

This would certainly make investigations into Drunk God's faith easier.

Not to mention, how happy will this being widespread make Yss.
Down with the falsssse godssss!
 
I think Viserys should pen a chapter or two of his 'The Prince' analogue that he has so often alluded to this month, during his musings of Corlys Waters and the nature of ruling and playacting.

Though come to think of it, would that even be appropriate for Viserys to write, even under a pen name? I think someone suggested Maelor should do it. That's a good idea, and Viserys can help with it. But while the nitty gritty of ruling is very little divorced at times from running and running with a street gang in squalid slums as compared to gilded palaces.

That makes it harder to think of something he would take time to write, except obscure lore pulled from the Dragon Dream (which could fill hundreds of volumes).

Actually, that seems the most worthwhile use of free time spent writing.
 
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Please, no. I would prefer to have Viserys write the "ruling a gang or a kingdom" book. It's something he sincerely believes in, it'd make for some unique PR, and it would be fun for him.

We already have Rhaella's book to give our court the weight of legitimacy and tradition, after all.
 
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I for one support the comprehensive guide on how to run a criminal enterprise.

Which automatically also a guide on rulership in general.
 
@DragonParadox, since you're already writing up books at the moment, can we get these written up?
Gained: On the Place of Lesser Spirits (Foundational Essay Collection for Reformers within the Faith of the Seven)
Gained The Living Flame and Sacred Texts and Hymns of R'hllor
The first was the gift from Lord Redwyn in anticipation of the conclave in Highgarden, the second was the recent gift from Benerro right before we gave the speech to the foremost Red Priests in Volantis. The second especially is important considering it's a decorated hand-written copy of their holy book as well as all their sacred texts and hymns.
 
@DragonParadox, since you're already writing up books at the moment, can we get these written up?


The first was the gift from Lord Redwyn in anticipation of the conclave in Highgarden, the second was the recent gift from Benerro right before we gave the speech to the foremost Red Priests in Volantis. The second especially is important considering it's a decorated hand-written copy of their holy book as well as all their sacred texts and hymns.

Sure I'll add them in too.
 
Eh, sorry. I used warder. Its what I'm familiar with personally.

Name: Dayne Firesong
Alignment: Lawfully Good
Race: Human (Medium Humanoid: Enhanced)

Warder 5
STR 19(20)/DEX10/CON16/INT17(18)/WIS13/CHA11

Feats: Allied Defense, Improved Trip, Knockdown, Power attack, Reckless Offensive, Pikeman's Training, Combat Expertise, Expanded weapon group (primal fury)

HP: 31(55)
AC: 29 (10+ 11 armour + 5 shield +7 NA -4 reckless offensive); Touch 6, 29
Movement: 20ft + 10ft (boots of speed) = 30ft
Initiative: +4 (INT) +2 (PRAETOR) = +6
Attack: 5 (BAB) + 5(STR) + 2 (Enchantment) = 12
Reach: 10ft
DR: 5/Chaotic
Fortification: 25% (gain Fast Healing 3 when it fails for Con-Mod rounds)
Resistance: Fire, Cold, Acid 10
SR: 10

Darkvision (120 ft.)

BAB: +5
Atk: Valyrian Steel (+2) Guisarme +12 (3d8+7 (+1d6 fire)/ x3)

FORTITUDE: 4 + 3 +2 = 7/9
REFLEX: 1 + 4 +2 +2 = 7/9
WILL: 4 + 2 +2 = 6/8 (+12 against mind affecting)

Skills: Profession (Soldier) +8, Bluff +10, Knowledge (the planes) +5, Acrobatics +5, Diplomacy +8, perform (singing) +2, listen +2

Feats:
Allied Defense: Shares his Combat Expertise bonus with all adjacent allies
Knockdown: Whenever he deals 10 damage or more, gains a free trip attempt

Warder Techniques: (EX)
Defensive Focus (+ int modifier attacks of opportunity, when recovering maneuvers threaten an extra 10ft)
Aegis (allies within 10ft gain +2 ac and +2 on will saves)
Armiger's Mark (4/4) (Hit enemy, free action, -4 when attempting to hit someone besides the warder. Lasts 2 rounds.)
Tactical Acumen (int instead of dex on initiative and dex saves)
Extended Defense (Immediate action, expend a counter, use that counter against every attack against you for 1 round)

Supernatural Abilities:
Burning hands (5d4 1/day) DC 12
Hands of Flame (+1d6 fire damage on metal weapons 1/day)
Healing Nodules (cure moderate wounds/Remove disease 1/day each)


Stances known:
-1st level
Running Hunter's Stance
Stance of the Defending Shell
-3rd level
Primal Warrior Stance

Maneuvers known:
-1st level
Hunting Party
Encouraging Roar
Panthera on the Hunt
Guard's Oath
Warden's Bearing
-2nd level
Armor-Piercing Thrust
Bloody Riposte
-3rd level
Intruder's End

Combat loadout:
Manuevers: Panthera on the Hunt, Bloody Riposte, Intruder's End, Armor-Piercing Thrust, Guard's Oath
Stance: Primal Warrior Stance

Equipment: Razor Sharp Valyrian Steel (+2) Guisarme, Reinforced Segmented Valyrian Steel (+2) Fullplate, Valyrian Steel (+2) Extreme Shield, Razor Sharp adamant Dagger, Handy Haversack.

Im done for the night, ta ta y'all.

Not... quite optimized either.

Edit: Wouldnt ya know it I mixed up combat expertise and combat reflexes too :V
Why are his stats so low? With the +4 Enhancement bonus to all attributes, plus the one gained at 4th level, Dayne should have, at a minimum, a higher Dexterity and Charisma score, unless he started off with the Dexterity of an octogenarian and the Charisma of a cucumber. Someone with base stats that poor shouldn't have been selected to be a Praetorian in the first place.
 
Why are his stats so low? With the +4 Enhancement bonus to all attributes, plus the one gained at 4th level, Dayne should have, at a minimum, a higher Dexterity and Charisma score, unless he started off with the Dexterity of an octogenarian and the Charisma of a cucumber. Someone with base stats that poor shouldn't have been selected to be a Praetorian in the first place.
I believe people have said 11 or 12 is the average stat of the population in d&d so they have the same stat in dex as an average peasant would in d&d
 
@Azel I was just looking over the individual mods intended for use with our Praetorians. While mechanically sound, the fluff for some of the mods is a bit...icky, for lack of a better word.

I'm assuming that each super-soldier is going to look human, correct, not like a mushroom and vine covered freak? The Fungal Forge should be able to internalize all that stuff so that their physical appearance, beyond being somewhat taller and more buff, is unaffected.
 
I believe people have said 11 or 12 is the average stat of the population in d&d so they have the same stat in dex as an average peasant would in d&d
And that's the issue. They shouldn't have average stats in anything, even a dump stat. If he started off with 10 Dexterity, it should be at 14 now.

To have a Dex 10 and Cha 11 after becoming a Praetorian, he would have had to start at Dex 6 and Cha 7. That's not just subpar, it's borderline crippled.
 
@Azel I was just looking over the individual mods intended for use with our Praetorians. While mechanically sound, the fluff for some of the mods is a bit...icky, for lack of a better word.

I'm assuming that each super-soldier is going to look human, correct, not like a mushroom and vine covered freak? The Fungal Forge should be able to internalize all that stuff so that their physical appearance, beyond being somewhat taller and more buff, is unaffected.

Yes,barring minor cosmetic details.

Anyway I moved the library to the research page so it will be more visible and added the two holy texts to it.

Vote closed.
Adhoc vote count started by Azel on Feb 13, 2019 at 2:18 AM, finished with 194 posts and 12 votes.

  • [X] Plan Just Do Your Job (That Includes Your Side-Job)
    -[X] "I assure you, if I were here to give away a blade and ask for a slain dragon, I would have taken my chances with the seating at the Red Keep. Bravery is something your King is rather famous for after all." // Make sure that Bravery is properly pronounced Stupidity.
    -[X] "All I would ask you for is to give him counsel, as it is befitting of your position. As you said yourself, the Lords of these lands are loathe to take care of the matter of coin and all too easily something can slip between the cracks without the dutiful aid of men like us." // Making it clear that we expect nothing more of him then doing his job in a particular fashion. Also generous hinting at the chance to take some liberties with the numbers on his reports.
    -[X] "A war takes coin after all and the coffers of a realm often bleed harder then all the soldiers in the field put together, even if victory is achieved. It is the manner of procurement of those funds that I am here about, since we could gain a lot from aligning our purposes there." // Last direct speech part to introduce into the nitty gritty details of our proposal.
    -[X] What we want Littlefinger to do:
    --[X] Mention to Robert that the royal coffers are depleting and that he is worried about the realms readiness to pay for a military campaign.
    --[X] He will then mention the option of imposing heavy tariffs on grain and other agricultural products from Essos. There prices there are falling as the Dragon has recently begun producing and selling large quantities. Hint that it would hurt the Dragon if those tariffs are imposed. Roberts urge to hurt the Dragon will take care of the rest.
    --[X] Hint that Littlefinger can embezzle a generous helping of coin from those tariffs.
    --[X] Meanwhile he can leverage his knowledge about the agriculture rituals to gain points with the other lords of Westeros and can encourage them to invest in new farmland by taking loans from him.
    --[X] If Robert rubs his two brain-cells together and notices the issue of food shortages, openly sell that idea to him to further increase the crowns hold on the other lords. Again, Littlefinger can do some creative bookkeeping here while looking smart and important to everyone.
    --[X] In case of actual food shortages, we can arrange some unofficial shipments from a few people in the Disputed Lands for a reasonable price and a small fee to the concerned authorities to look away.
    --[X] Meanwhile we, as in Ghis, will cheaply buy up the Targs grain that he can't get rid of elsewhere to expand our own forces. Imply heavily that the moment the Targ attacks Westeros, we will strike from the east and crush him in a two-front war with Westeros, all while nominally not being allied.
    --[X] If Littlefinger helps us with this, we can promise rich rewards in our homeland, including title and manse, should he feel the need or desire to leave Westeros.
    -[X] What we will actually do:
    --[X] If Littlefinger goes for it, we will quietly buy up large quantities of overproduced grain in Essos and encourage others to do the same, speculating on Westeros dropping the tariffs later and needing urgently to get some food. ACSEC makes this exercise trivial to implement and nigh impossible to notice from the outside. That moderates the price decline and keeps it at a non-destructive level, but still encourages the switch to cash crops in the Disputed Lands and thus desired economic development.
    --[X] Meanwhile, the Inquisition will branch out into becoming successful food smuggles, infesting every major harbor in Westeros with our agents while we are there.
    -[X] Long term:
    --[X] We will use Pycelle and Varys to have the tariffs dropped next year, then swamp the market with the stocked grain.
    --[X] This is done shortly before the harvest season, when all those lovely investments and rituals will lead to a massive overproduction in Westeros.
    --[X] Cue the grain price crashing, people defaulting on debts, peasants rioting and everyone involved in the whole tariff thing looking like fucking idiots.
 
[X] Plan Just Do Your Job (That Includes Your Side-Job)
-[X] "I assure you, if I were here to give away a blade and ask for a slain dragon, I would have taken my chances with the seating at the Red Keep. Bravery is something your King is rather famous for after all." // Make sure that Bravery is properly pronounced Stupidity.
-[X] "All I would ask you for is to give him counsel, as it is befitting of your position. As you said yourself, the Lords of these lands are loathe to take care of the matter of coin and all too easily something can slip between the cracks without the dutiful aid of men like us." // Making it clear that we expect nothing more of him then doing his job in a particular fashion. Also generous hinting at the chance to take some liberties with the numbers on his reports.
-[X] "A war takes coin after all and the coffers of a realm often bleed harder then all the soldiers in the field put together, even if victory is achieved. It is the manner of procurement of those funds that I am here about, since we could gain a lot from aligning our purposes there." // Last direct speech part to introduce into the nitty gritty details of our proposal.
-[X] What we want Littlefinger to do:
--[X] Mention to Robert that the royal coffers are depleting and that he is worried about the realms readiness to pay for a military campaign.
--[X] He will then mention the option of imposing heavy tariffs on grain and other agricultural products from Essos. There prices there are falling as the Dragon has recently begun producing and selling large quantities. Hint that it would hurt the Dragon if those tariffs are imposed. Roberts urge to hurt the Dragon will take care of the rest.
--[X] Hint that Littlefinger can embezzle a generous helping of coin from those tariffs.
--[X] Meanwhile he can leverage his knowledge about the agriculture rituals to gain points with the other lords of Westeros and can encourage them to invest in new farmland by taking loans from him.
--[X] If Robert rubs his two brain-cells together and notices the issue of food shortages, openly sell that idea to him to further increase the crowns hold on the other lords. Again, Littlefinger can do some creative bookkeeping here while looking smart and important to everyone.
--[X] In case of actual food shortages, we can arrange some unofficial shipments from a few people in the Disputed Lands for a reasonable price and a small fee to the concerned authorities to look away.
--[X] Meanwhile we, as in Ghis, will cheaply buy up the Targs grain that he can't get rid of elsewhere to expand our own forces. Imply heavily that the moment the Targ attacks Westeros, we will strike from the east and crush him in a two-front war with Westeros, all while nominally not being allied.
--[X] If Littlefinger helps us with this, we can promise rich rewards in our homeland, including title and manse, should he feel the need or desire to leave Westeros.
-[X] What we will actually do:
--[X] If Littlefinger goes for it, we will quietly buy up large quantities of overproduced grain in Essos and encourage others to do the same, speculating on Westeros dropping the tariffs later and needing urgently to get some food. ACSEC makes this exercise trivial to implement and nigh impossible to notice from the outside. That moderates the price decline and keeps it at a non-destructive level, but still encourages the switch to cash crops in the Disputed Lands and thus desired economic development.
--[X] Meanwhile, the Inquisition will branch out into becoming successful food smuggles, infesting every major harbor in Westeros with our agents while we are there.
-[X] Long term:
--[X] We will use Pycelle and Varys to have the tariffs dropped next year, then swamp the market with the stocked grain.
--[X] This is done shortly before the harvest season, when all those lovely investments and rituals will lead to a massive overproduction in Westeros.
--[X] Cue the grain price crashing, people defaulting on debts, peasants rioting and everyone involved in the whole tariff thing looking like fucking idiots.
Viserys should have come into this conversation with Detect Thoughts active. Reading Baelish's surface thoughts during the meeting would help us tailor our approach to him from an IC approach, because we really shouldn't have a great idea of his motivations or proclivities, beyond what Varys and Pycelle may have known.
 
Not sure if the idea has been proposed for the praetorians but, why not make them more like the adeptus custodies rather than space marines so each person receiving the upgrade would hav wit personally tailored to them rather than having it mass produced.
 
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