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No it doesn't. That was a "character creation only" thing: you could only pick so many unusual options. It wasn't a mechanical penalty of any kind.

It's based on an existing setting in which far more women than men get powers (well, without mutating or dying) for some reason. Presumably the author wanted to try for some sort of social commentary or something. But once the dude in question has his superpowers, he doesn't seem weaker than anyone else. A dude called Zeus rules most of the planet in the original serial, and the strongest person in the world is an African-American woman that everybody hates and fears but who's still living her best life anyway.
Living her best life as an evil piece of shit, but living her best life nonetheless :D


Worse: there are whole PrCs like that!
Ever heard of Durthan? It's an amazing Tier 1 PrC (for Sha'ir, or Theurges) with the absurdly good "Place Magic" ability (Acorn of Far Travel, yeah!), that allows you to cast any spell known without preparation.
It's also unavailable to men.


+1


The Quest. We play an Ultrahuman (superpowered) fighter in the service of the Ultra-supremacist Regime, who is secretly a member of the Ultra-hating group Kill Every Monster. Her healing power means that she's old enough to remember the fall of civilization at the hands of Ultra warlords, and so she hates them all.

The Web Serial the quest's setting is based on. Reading it shouldn't be necessary to follow the quest (the quest if just starting, and the author is paying attention to exposition) but the serial was pretty good so I would suggest reading it.
To summarize: civilisation is dying, but not mankind. Superpowered humans known as "Ultras" roam, and everything is a chaotic shitpile. No controlling Lawful Evil Dystopia here - just feuding warlords who act like they're gods all over Pantheon territory, one asshole ruling all of America and bullying the world with her insane personal power, and one last police state in Europe fighting back against the Ultra hordes and their human ("dagger") groupies/slaves/followers.
The main characters are enforcers working for the American dictator, even though they all hate and fear her. Trouble is, they each have their own traitorous ambitions and then [PLOT HAPPENS].
Great twists, interesting worldbuilding, and a the writing isn't bad either. Most of its readers are on another website, but it's crossposted here very week.
Thanks. Sounds stupidly grim but I will try the quest.
 
Bloodraven just told us any concerted effort to do that will lead to war. We'll be sneaky about it, sure, but I'm not confident. Specially when they can wreck it just by being themselves and letting those tales spread, without any effort or even intention in their part.

Not quite, what I said is that if you tried to warp the narrative of the fey to the point where they will think you are a greater threat to them than the Others then there will be war. Do it carefully and it can work. This is not a binary situation where the fey will either roll over or fight you to the death.
 
@Snowfire Making a lot of assumptions about factions when it's its own stand-alone setting.

@DragonParadox While I have no doubt the Fey aren't to be underestimated, it would be kind of bullshit if they were basically just "like the Abyss, but no demon callers necessary".
 
Okay so we want to tell Ned so that Winterfell and Jon don't get corrupted by the others since family and a hahaha how much damage could the Others do with a corrupted Winterfell? But the political situation means that we can't just stroll up openly to help. I'm not sure of trying to directly contact Ned Stark is going to work here.

The more I think about it the more I kinda like sending them dreams via the Old Gods.

[X] Divine Dragon Assistance
--[X] Have Blood raven have the OG send a warning/information to Arya Stark, their herald on what transpired, along with instructions on how to convey this information to the Manderly Mage and Ned Stark. Viserys to assist with the message.
--[X] Followup with a vision to Ned directly along with hint notice that Viserys is willing to provide discrete assistance in this matter.
--[X] Follow this up with a false raven message saying that we can drop off a discrete detect undead item somewhere where they can retrieve it.
 
@DragonParadox While I have no doubt the Fey aren't to be underestimated, it would be kind of bullshit if they were basically just "like the Abyss, but no demon callers necessary".

They are not like the Abyss in that most fey have things they care about in the material world or even need to survive. To give a standard example consider a dryad's tree. The dryad herself can kill a lot of commoners with axes, but if even one of them gets to her tree she is done for.
 
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Not quite, what I said is that if you tried to warp the narrative of the fey to the point where they will think you are a greater threat to them than the Others then there will be war. Do it carefully and it can work. This is not a binary situation where the fey will either roll over or fight you to the death.
Except that's really unclear. The Seven decided we were a greater threat than the Others for their own reasons already. Where's the line for the Fae? And even before that line, where's the line where they don't start open war but merely counter propaganda?
 
I'm not wrong, though. A substantial, vocal portion of the thread is doing what I've said they are. I could have been a bit less indiscriminate, sure, but you yourself admit I have a point.
And you sound exactly like I do when doing this. Right down to the justification for the generalization.

I've caught a lot of complaints about this during the last salt-mess, so please join my efforts to Make The Thread Great Again by resisting the sweet temptation of getting out the warhammer and beating sense into everyone at once.


As for the matter at hand, I for one am very pleased by the IC confirmation that stories can be used as memic warfare agents against Fey. I've been preaching "using Fey bullshit against themselves" since the days of Braavos, but the thread usually called that insane and preferred blunt instruments. In fact, I'm positively giddy at the chance to use propaganda as a weapon on this scale.
 
Except that's really unclear. The Seven decided we were a greater threat than the Others for their own reasons already. Where's the line for the Fae? And even before that line, where's the line where they don't start open war but merely counter propaganda?

Guess how we find the answers? Diplomacy and intrigue. Guess what you are advocating for? Not diplomacy and intrigue. The problem here should be self-evident.

I really don't get the whole saltplex about the fae anyway, but this is getting silly.
 
So, brainstorming to craft a fey narrative.
Contains something along the lines where fey being beneficial to humans (includes being dicks to lawbreaking humans, for example) creates a better story than not doing so? Human laws as a challenge, not to break, but to work within?
 
And you sound exactly like I do when doing this. Right down to the justification for the generalization.

I've caught a lot of complaints about this during the last salt-mess, so please join my efforts to Make The Thread Great Again by resisting the sweet temptation of getting out the warhammer and beating sense into everyone at once.

Fair. I will be more considerate in my targeting in future.

As for the matter at hand, I for one am very pleased by the IC confirmation that stories can be used as memic warfare agents against Fey. I've been preaching "using Fey bullshit against themselves" since the days of Braavos, but the thread usually called that insane and preferred blunt instruments. In fact, I'm positively giddy at the chance to use propaganda as a weapon on this scale.

And count me in on this. I love cultural warfare!
 
Except that's really unclear. The Seven decided we were a greater threat than the Others for their own reasons already. Where's the line for the Fae? And even before that line, where's the line where they don't start open war but merely counter propaganda?

To find the answer to those questions you need to talk to some fey IC, maybe try out some of those songs and test out the reaction.
 
To find the answer to those questions you need to talk to some fey IC, maybe try out some of those songs and test out the reaction.
Which reminds me...

@egoo, Master Of Minor Stuff To Do:
-[] Speak with Glyra and Moonsong about the matter of the Fey as a whole and how stories shape their narrative. Ask them who they think they are these days.
--[] Do the same with the Pech, the Bulabar and the Calpina.

We already have two powerful Fey who are used to taking orders from us and no less then 3 distinct groups of Fey who are serving us happily for over a year. Time to leverage those ressources.
 
So, brainstorming to craft a fey narrative.
Contains something along the lines where fey being beneficial to humans (includes being dicks to lawbreaking humans, for example) creates a better story than not doing so? Human laws as a challenge, not to break, but to work within?

The most positive, long-term result would probably use this or something like it as its foundation, yeah. There needs to be a carrot to go along with the stick, after all. Human laws as a challenge to work within, instead of defy, is frankly genius.
 
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The propaganda plan costs us pretty much nothing at all, so how about trying that and keeping other things in the backhand until we are sure it's not working?

I don't get it, I thought we were already having Xor work on educational and entertaining stories for kids and stuff?

Not quite, what I said is that if you tried to warp the narrative of the fey to the point where they will think you are a greater threat to them than the Others then there will be war. Do it carefully and it can work. This is not a binary situation where the fey will either roll over or fight you to the death.

+1
We still prefer talking, and peace.

Teaching mankind to stand on their own doesn't mean they have to stand alone :V

They are not like the Abyss in that most fey have things they care about in the material world or even need to survive. To give a standard example consider a dryad's tree. The dryad herself can kill a lot of commoners with axes, but if even one of them gets to her tree she is done for.

Also not all, heck not even most fae are psychopaths.

They are weird yes, but they do think and feel and love and cry. (And die).

That one fae chick who's entire family got kidnapped and tortured into insanity literally ran out of tears to shed.

 
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Which reminds me...

@egoo, Master Of Minor Stuff To Do:
-[] Speak with Glyra and Moonsong about the matter of the Fey as a whole and how stories shape their narrative. Ask them who they think they are these days.
--[] Do the same with the Pech, the Bulabar and the Calpina.

We already have two powerful Fey who are used to taking orders from us and no less then 3 distinct groups of Fey who are serving us happily for over a year. Time to leverage those ressources.
Added.
we'll talk with them this month.
 
unclear. The Seven decided we were a greater threat than the Others for their own reasons already. Where'
:Citation Needed:

So, brainstorming to craft a fey narrative.
Contains something along the lines where fey being beneficial to humans (includes being dicks to lawbreaking humans, for example) creates a better story than not doing so? Human laws as a challenge, not to break, but to work within?
Would it make a good story?

If you can spin a good narrative around that idea (or ideally dozens) you have yourself a winner.
 
I beg to disagree. In Dresden Files, mental compulsion is clumsy as hell. Removing mental compulsions is all well and good, but the spell also causes side-effects that weren't directly caused by the magic at all! And being mind-controlled is traumatic in and of itself, of course.
Think of it this way: a Fighter walks into a china shop. We can repair the items that he cuts in half with his sword, but not the ones he accidentally knocked off the shelf and stepped on. For those, we can give a little help but not fix directly.

At least that seems to be what Snowfire is going with. Not sure I agree (I like the "Heart's Ease fixes everything because it's magic, now move on") but it's consistent with the quest at least. And it's true that Heart's Ease can damage plotlines quite a bit just by existing.
As I said it can't remove the trauma, what it can do is remove the magical insanity keeping them from recovering, which mean they all have the potential to recover, they need lots of therapy and time, and some might never succeed, but they all have the potential, because Heart's Ease, make it as if they had been mind-controlled to do all they have been made to do, with magic that don't cause mind damage beyond what the acts themselves do.

So Heart's Ease in this case, should make it as if they had been made to do all those things with mind altering drugs instead of magic, and those drugs had no withdrawal effects, which mean all the damage is from what happened to them, not from the fact that it was accomplished, though crudely hammering their mind into a new shape.
 
@thread - look at the fey situation like this:
We've got omake writers among our group, and a culture of incorporating ideas into plans.
And given the diverse nature of fey, creating more than one narrative that's ultimately beneficial to us (ie, Planetos humanity) plays to our strength.
Then there's the thing with the social combat boni our MC(s) have - I expect some nice interaction with fey courts where Viserys shines.
If you look at it from this point of view, DP just served us the feywild on a platter.
 
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