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A Sword Without a Hilt: A Song of Ice and Fire/D&D 3.5 Crossover

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Crake said:
She actually favors a Large-sized Quicksilver young Dragon form, these days.
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Unfortunatly still medium.
Mercury Dragons have a lot of good things going for them, speed, magic and breath, but they are fucking tiny compared to most true dragons.

Duesal said:
It's a bit of a shame. I always thought the fluff of Dany curled around Viserys' neck was adorable.
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Her bigger mercury form fits around TD-viserys' neck.
 
Maybe for the new temple we could put a marble/metal/whatever dragon statue posed on top of the temple. And it could be siphon of some sort.

I don't know enoughe about DND and if it has a faith siphon that we could use.
 
Crake said:
So I #DidTheMath and assuming we on averaged expanded our total number of training facilities by 2 per turn, and invaded in the 11th or 12th Month of this current year, we should have either 3/4ths to the entirety of a Legion to hold the eastern border against Ghiscari aggression. Unfortunately, no matter how you spin it, we should only have around 3 Legions fit for invasion.

It's not quite what I hoped for... mostly because I had wanted to be able to act in multiple theaters by conducting simultaneous operations in the same region even. It seems like the biggest utility of our elites is their outsized combat power (one and a half legions could take on a host of comparable size to a single Westerosi Kingdom, on a good day). With all our advantages, we can probably assume we have the prepared terrain in any situation, and better logistics. So no contest there either, not just training.

Basically, they're good at conducting operations, compared to Levies or Armsmen, levies only useful, literally only useful, for a field battle, and nothing else, and as packing peanuts at that, and MaA more useful for garrison work and hardening a soft center or holding a flank. And what we want to avoid is Westerosi running around in impromptu alliances and ransacking and "foraging" about the countryside more than we could have avoided.

So it's looking like we're going to need a reserve of Gate scrolls to transport our three Legions around Westeros for intimidating the relevant people into compliance or tilting any field battles that we couldn't head off in favor of those flying the Three-Headed Dragon, and of course taking hardened locations via surprise attack.

Also given the method we can make our entrance, there's really no reason not to make the first blow in the war three Legions marching into the center of King's Landing and taking over the city whilst Companions simultaneously take control of the Red Keep and (ideally) capture the Royal Family.

Take King's Landing overnight? People who would strongly have considered siding with Tywin or Robert as a first option will change their minds quickly.

From there it would literally be two priorities, keeping coherent forces from mustering together and trying to take the city back, and trimming down defiant houses who haven't dipped their banners or raised ours. Then grinding up Tywin's forces neat and clean.
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Yikes, only three legions? There's got to be a way to get more, we're sitting on so much manpower... build a second Westhaven in a month with dedicated companion actions? It'd be more than worth it.

As for targets, taking the capital during the first week seems like a good idea, as well as marching into the Riverlands and gathering up Loyalists, thereby cutting off the Arryns from the rest of the Kingdoms. Also useful for bottling up a northern host in the northern Riverlands. Doran should come out of the Prince's Pass like a meteor (which will probably surprise everyone, he's not exactly known as a bold man) though I'm not sure where we should direct him. Stormlands or Reach? One risks alienating Stannis (though we cant exactly leave him free to support bobby in KL, while the Reach is supposedly filled with 'loyalists' who could otherwise jump to Tywin if they see a magical Dornish army beelining it for Highgarden.

Editing figurines now by the way, should be done in 10 secs... and then hopefully to sleep.
 
Crake said:
Untrue. The minotaurs do not live like paupers... they are well compensated basically wherever they go. The people coming in are not gentrifying nobles, and we can discourage that specific migration in that location by building manses elsewhere, but people looking for opportunity. Opportunity the minotaurs have already eclipsed in their own right.

Also, all the dozens of children they have had and still are having live there.

@DragonParadox, what's our current minotaur population, including their young?
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Over a hundred at this point I would say.
 
bigbow said:
Yikes, only three legions? There's got to be a way to get more, we're sitting on so much manpower... build a second Westhaven in a month with dedicated companion actions? It'd be more than worth it.

As for targets, taking the capital during the first week seems like a good idea, as well as marching into the Riverlands and gathering up Loyalists, thereby cutting off the Arryns from the rest of the Kingdoms. Also useful for bottling up a northern host in the northern Riverlands. Doran should come out of the Prince's Pass like a meteor (which will probably surprise everyone, he's not exactly known as a bold man) though I'm not sure where we should direct him. Stormlands or Reach? One risks alienating Stannis (though we cant exactly leave him free to support bobby in KL, while the Reach is supposedly filled with 'loyalists' who could otherwise jump to Tywin if they see a magical Dornish army beelining it for Highgarden.

Editing figurines now by the way, should be done in 10 secs... and then hopefully to sleep.
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We'll have tens of thousands of MaA with the addition of the Volantene and the Braavosi forces, but there's just not enough time to retool more than four legions worth in the timeframe we've set down.

We could get that to probaaably twice that number I came up with if we delayed invasion by four... five months tops. Which would allow some serious flexibility.

Come to think of it, we might be forced to if we need to handle consolidation of the rest of Western Essos (sans Norvos, Lorath and Qohor, Ibben and Qarth), then stomping on the Deep Ones and Tiamat for a bit.

But even with all of that, if we delayed until the second month of 294 AC for instance, we wouldn't have more than maybe four and a half Legions for invading.

Though that's way more flexibility.

Send a Column to the Vale to help the Royces, one full Legion to the Riverlands to secure the Golden Tooth pass, three to secure King's Landing for a bit of show of power, then send one off to the Reach and the other off to lead the Dornish host through the Prince's Pass so that they can cut across the Mander and then gather Reacher houses on the way and go up towards the Westernlands from the southern approach, all while decapitating any real opposition in the south from two directions. We'd have to defend King's Landing against Stannis if he decides not to side with us or stand down, though.
 
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DragonParadox said:
Over a hundred at this point I would say.
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Wow, its not often I catch you from the other side of the timezone! Did you see the post I tagged you with a page back? Its got the second part of the figurines, featuring the Companions so we can get national heroes going and little kids everywhere dreaming. I added a few additions about 2 minutes ago, if you missed it. Should be ready sans smallish changes here and there.
 
The bright side of all my projections is that at the very least, our invasion force is a proper army. Though only "sit up and take absolutely serious" proper, not "pants shittingly terrifying" projections I made months ago about having a hundred thousand jackbooted thugs invading every coast of Westeros, south, east and west.
 
bigbow said:
Wow, its not often I catch you from the other side of the timezone! Did you see the post I tagged you with a page back? Its got the second part of the figurines, featuring the Companions so we can get national heroes going and little kids everywhere dreaming. I added a few additions about 2 minutes ago, if you missed it. Should be ready sans smallish changes here and there.
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I just threadmarked it. I was working though the thread and replying as I went.

Great work. With all the kid interludes I write those figures will be excellent props and bits f characterization :)
 
We've invented the Action Figure!

And manifest destiny... we can't always be saints eh? :V
 
Also great omake @Snowfire, very moving and nuanced perspective on how someone can fall to Black Magic, if I may interject a perspective on how Viserys would feel about this I think there might be a bit of irrational guilt mixed in because he can and has turned people into puppets and tools with his magic and as far as he can tell there is no psychological abyss waiting for him, it's just a distasteful necessity.
 
Sorry I missed the turn vote, was character building for a PbP Dark Sun game...

I'm still rereading the thread, but did meeting, or at least researching, the Githzerai make it onto the list of actions?
 
spiritualatheist said:
but did meeting, or at least researching, the Githzerai make it onto the list of actions?
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It did not.
I can add asking around about them in PoA to Minor Actions like Azel suggested, as that is indeed a decent place to start so that we have in-character understanding of them and getting their priorities if we tell them about our little Illithid infestation.
 
@DragonParadox, about that promise to invade Westeros by the end of the year. Can we ret-con that to the end of next year?

That promise was made under the assumption of the ridiculous over-heated speed with which stuff happened in the old system.
 
Azel said:
@DragonParadox, about that promise to invade Westeros by the end of the year. Can we ret-con that to the end of next year?

That promise was made under the assumption of the ridiculous over-heated speed with which stuff happened in the old system.
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Does this mean Viserys is technically taking more time off?

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I dont think Viserys could live in a plane where his time is suddenly half as effective.
 
Ugh. Just make it so that Viserys miscalculated about how quickly he can invade and conquer Westeros.

Retconning our mistakes like that sounds like something that will remove tension even more from this quest.
 
DkArthas said:
Ugh. Just make it so that Viserys miscalculated about how quickly he can invade and conquer Westeros. Retconning our mistakes like that sounds like something that will remove tension even more.
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The rules of the universe have changed after the promise was made...

And I do have struggled quite a while with myself to ask this, but the fact of the natter is that it's impossible to get our eastern holdings in order before the end of the year, something that seemed trivial before.
 
DragonParadox said:
Sure, that makes sense.
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...We now have the time to hunt out Tiamat's forces. Both fortress and Golden Cloaks and dragons.
We now can field a campaign against Illithid and not fear Westeros getting in the way.
We can deal with Qarth.

Eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee~

TalonofAnathrax said:
I totally agree with DkArthas. @DragonParadox, please don't make this kind of retcon. We can just invade with a slightly smaller army.
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I would prefer to have either a retcon or sending off messages to all loyal lords getting them to know we aren't invading now...
Oh wait, that'd be a shitshow.

One retcon, please!
 
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