That's possible. We could easily sell dozens of weapons and make a ludicrous profit, and just when they think that's all we have to offer, we drop the bomb at the end of the auction that they can have customized items made to spec, for a fee of course.
An arm and a leg or do we go straight for firstborn?


Also, I'm stupid. I kept wracking my brain what cash crops would do well in the Myrish country-side and Golden Fields. But it's so simple.
Tea and opium.

The former for direct consumption, the latter as base material for painkillers.


Reminder here that we can drop off some amount of goods when using Greater Teleport to have a meeting with the local big-wigs. For example some personalized VS items for which we got the specifications by Brazier.
 
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@Azel I think we should order Asha a custom flagship from Uthero this turn, too. Not sure when we'd reward her with it, but having it ready to gift on the spot seems like a good idea.
 
@Azel I think we should order Asha a custom flagship from Uthero this turn, too. Not sure when we'd reward her with it, but having it ready to gift on the spot seems like a good idea.
Regarding Asha's flagship, I've had a dream for a very long time but it just never seemed feasible so I kept my mouth shut. Now, however, we have lots and lots of crafters.

Can we make her a Dragonship? It is hilariously thematic, and also very useful.


EDIT: Wait. Never mind. Only Lya would be able to make it, so it's not happening. :( Disregard this, a normal ship will do just as well for Asha.

However, if she's getting a ship, I want it made out of Hardened Ironwood. She deserves that much.
 
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An arm and a leg or do we go straight for firstborn?


Also, I'm stupid. I kept wracking my brain what cash crops would do well in the Myrish country-side and Golden Fields. But it's so simple.
Tea and opium.

The former for direct consumption, the latter as base material for painkillers.

There is a certain irony towards selling opium to Yi-Ti but for the life of me I can't seem to find it. Also maybe we should increase the guard on Valaena if we do send her to be diplomatic. I don't feel comfortable with that brand of fey. You know cause Valyrian looks plus Rhoynar fey might equal violent meetings.
 
@Duesal that is way too small for a proper sailing vessel. It's alright for a small adventuring party, but not for any kind of military of commercial purpose.

A dragonship is an animated sailing vessel—essentially a massive wood golem in the form of a longship. It is identical to a longship in every way except that it is only 20 feet long. It has a standard square-rigged sail, and 10 oars (5 on each side). Using its oars or its ability to generate winds on its own, a dragonship is rarely at the mercy of the weather. It has an instinctive understanding of local sea charts and navigation routes. Its primary function is as a transport that needs no crew; it can be told one's destination and it will sail there by the quickest route possible.

Still cool, though.
 
There is a certain irony towards selling opium to Yi-Ti but for the life of me I can't seem to find it. Also maybe we should increase the guard on Valaena if we do send her to be diplomatic. I don't feel comfortable with that brand of fey. You know cause Valyrian looks plus Rhoynar fey might equal violent meetings.
The first Opium War got started because China tried to stop the massive amounts of opium the British were selling to them from flooding their cities with addicts.
So no, there is nothing ironic about it. We are just Great Britain.

As for the Rhoynish Fey, the mission is led by Tyene, so no worries there.
 
@Duesal that is way too small for a proper sailing vessel. It's alright for a small adventuring party, but not for any kind of military of commercial purpose.

Still cool, though.
Unfortunately the CL is too high to involve anyone aside from Lya, so it was a moot point. It's my fault for getting excited and jumping the gun I guess.

In any case, a Hardened Ironwood ship of her choice works just as well. We can completely deck it out for her, and give her crew all the best weapons. Masterwork Double Crossbows for everyone!
 
The first Opium War got started because China tried to stop the massive amounts of opium the British were selling to them from flooding their cities with addicts.
So no, there is nothing ironic about it. We are just Great Britain.

As for the Rhoynish Fey, the mission is led by Tyene, so no worries there.

Funny, but Viserys wouldn't try to sell opium in massive amounts to people without also offering healing services to counter addiction in the same breath. One, to make more money, and two, to sweep any Victorian "they're just peasants/foreigners HUHUHUHU" aside by appearing as benevolent as he is greedy.
 
Funny, but Viserys wouldn't try to sell opium in massive amounts to people without also offering healing services to counter addiction in the same breath. One, to make more money, and two, to sweep any Victorian "they're just peasants/foreigners HUHUHUHU" aside by appearing as benevolent as he is greedy.
I don't intend to sell actual opium at all. Instead, we will refine the product to morphine.

Magical healing is awesome for a host of reasons, but a efficient painkiller is still worth it's weight in gold.
 
I think a Jian should weigh about as much as a rapier, so we can argue for 2 lbs there.

Alright, piecing this together.

Bastard Sword -- 6 lbs
Dagger -- 1 lbs
Dao -- 4 lbs
Glaive -- 10 lbs
Greatsword -- 8 lbs
Jian -- 2 lbs
Longsword -- 3 lbs
Thinblade -- 2 lbs
Rapier -- 2 lbs
Shortsword -- 2 lbs

@Azel @Crake @Goldfish, if needed we can easily sacrifice one or two more Steel Devils. These are honestly a drop in the bucket for the Larder, but the amount of Valyrian Steel they make per devil is hilariously good considering how little is needed to make a sword. We can totally do the commission thing if needed.
No Thinblades. Those are still the equivalent to secret military technology.
 
No Thinblades. Those are still the equivalent to secret military technology.
Alright, no Thinblades.

Still, that's an initial 300 lbs of Valyrian Steel for you guys to do with as you please. To put this in perspective, that's enough for 100 Valyrian Steel Longswords. We're going to make an absolute killing in Yi Ti.
 
Should we include a Companion with the Yi-Ti expedition? We're sending a nice spread of people and creatures, but none are high level and most are fairly low level.

I think Maelor might be a good choice for the position. He's powerful, with a diverse set of abilities, but he's also young and easily overlooked if you don't know who you're dealing with and he's making an effort to appear innocuous. He's got decent social skills, though nothing spectacular. We can augment that by crafting him an Air of Nobility PoSK before the expedition departs. He's fairly close to leveling up, too. We might even be able to get him leveled before departing.
 
That's possible. We could easily sell dozens of weapons and make a ludicrous profit, and just when they think that's all we have to offer, we drop the bomb at the end of the auction that they can have customized items made to spec, for a fee of course.

Best to have the first wave of merchants be able to honestly say they can't fill custom orders, have that be at the diplomat level or something for added prestige and at least a shadow of justification for profiteering on the pre-made and then blatantly again on the customs.

Polite fictions make the world go round.
 
Should we include a Companion with the Yi-Ti expedition? We're sending a nice spread of people and creatures, but none are high level and most are fairly low level.

I think Maelor might be a good choice for the position. He's powerful, with a diverse set of abilities, but he's also young and easily overlooked if you don't know who you're dealing with and he's making an effort to appear innocuous. He's got decent social skills, though nothing spectacular. We can augment that by crafting him an Air of Nobility PoSK before the expedition departs. He's fairly close to leveling up, too. We might even be able to get him leveled before departing.

Xor really needs XP too...

Edit: He also needs to learn some more spells.
 
wait, what?
We didn't buy them, did we?
:o

*memories of 4th thing once ignored in existence intensify*

4th Essarian Sleeper!!!!
Speaking of which, we really should do something about them. Paranoid scarface is especially ideal for the Inquisition.

Actually, Macron looks pretty good and Putin isn't exactly ugly either.

We need to splice in some Illithid:

That's a Wretched Gryff from Magic: The Gathering.


It's this:


That got superimposed by a dandruff of an eldritch being that lives in the space between planes causing it to become hyper-real. Or something like that.

When you see it, you sure can fight and kill it. Just make sure to abandon plane afterwards.
Otherwise...




[X] Crake
 
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Nah, 2 years ago, Wizards of the Coast returned to Zendikar, and then Innistrad. They were the threats there.

Nowadays, its Bolas. Everything can be blamed to Nicol Bolas' master plan.

I'm a paranoiac, so I assume everything is Nicol Bolas' master plan, even when it's Eldrazi.

Hell, he's probably behind the Others.
 
So the expedition fleet would be the Queen Rhealla, the Hunter's Moon, 2 Large Galleons, 6 Medium Galleons and 6 Small Galleons, plus all the shiny stuff @Goldfish proposed.
Definitely nothing a random pirate would want to tussle with.

Can we transfer over or purchase some sloops for this convoy to help provide area coverage as needed? It's probably unnecessary but I imagine the utility of having smaller, shallower, fast ships would be useful in some situations.

We could also potentially go to Dorne and Braavos and get some of their unique goods for resale as well. Imagine having dozens of fine Dornish Sand Steeds bottled away and taken out for resale in Yi Ti. No risk of livestock dying off, and impressive as hell.

Would the Steeds be gelded or would we be willing to sell breeding stock at firstborne prices?

Unfortunately the CL is too high to involve anyone aside from Lya, so it was a moot point. It's my fault for getting excited and jumping the gun I guess.

In any case, a Hardened Ironwood ship of her choice works just as well. We can completely deck it out for her, and give her crew all the best weapons. Masterwork Double Crossbows for everyone!

What if we just got the Dragonhead figure? Maybe upgraded it a little so it wouldn't be stuck with a crappy 30ft cone range. It would probably still require Lya time just eyeballing it, but not nearly as much and it would continue our theme of "Very Powerful Very Identifiable Magic" for our unique ships.

I'm a paranoiac, so I assume everything is Nicol Bolas' master plan, even when it's Eldrazi.

Hell, he's probably behind the Others.

Would you mind sharing more about this threat? I've heard of similar masterminds and would prefer knowing if we need to go for instant assassination now or if we can hold off on tracking him down.
 
Would the Steeds be gelded or would we be willing to sell breeding stock at firstborne prices?
I'd be willing to sell breeding stock, personally. In turn we'd buy whatever rare breeds the Yi Tish have. I've always wanted Zorses.
What if we just got the Dragonhead figure? Maybe upgraded it a little so it wouldn't be stuck with a crappy 30ft cone range. It would probably still require Lya time just eyeballing it, but not nearly as much and it would continue our theme of "Very Powerful Very Identifiable Magic" for our unique ships.
A figurehead might work out. Maybe with a long sinuous neck so that it can aim in all directions. And intelligent too, to banter with Asha.
 
Can we transfer over or purchase some sloops for this convoy to help provide area coverage as needed? It's probably unnecessary but I imagine the utility of having smaller, shallower, fast ships would be useful in some situations.



Would the Steeds be gelded or would we be willing to sell breeding stock at firstborne prices?



What if we just got the Dragonhead figure? Maybe upgraded it a little so it wouldn't be stuck with a crappy 30ft cone range. It would probably still require Lya time just eyeballing it, but not nearly as much and it would continue our theme of "Very Powerful Very Identifiable Magic" for our unique ships.



Would you mind sharing more about this threat? I've heard of similar masterminds and would prefer knowing if we need to go for instant assassination now or if we can hold off on tracking him down.

Luckily (hypothetically) Nicol Bolas is a "ABANDON UNIVERSE" level threat that we won't ever be facing... because we're in a D&D setting, not a Magic the Gathering one. :V
 
Alright, no Thinblades.

Still, that's an initial 300 lbs of Valyrian Steel for you guys to do with as you please. To put this in perspective, that's enough for 100 Valyrian Steel Longswords. We're going to make an absolute killing in Yi Ti.

If we're going to start making Valyrian Steel, something we should consider is unloading a boatload of it at the Night's Watch. If it's found out that each Ranger gets their own Valyrian Steel sword, the Westerosi will go absolutely bonkers over it. Second Sons will sign up left, right, and center just so they can get their hands on the fabled steel.

This serves our interests for two purposes: first, it will enormously strengthen the Night's Watch against the Others. Dragonsteel is one of their two noted banes and it doesn't have nearly the same weaknesses that dragonglass has. The Lord Commander has noted that his greatest wish is for more skilled men. Reopening that Watch's various castles has done wonders for getting desperate smallfolk to sign up, but it hasn't been great in attracting actual fighting men. It's much better to get someone who's trained since the age of seven as opposed to raw recruits who have to learn everything on the Watch's time and dime.

If the swords are entailed to the Watch, we don't even have to worry about them disappearing; they would legally be property of the Watch. Include a few, specific maker's marks on the blades and we know when they go missing and someone is stealing from them.

Second, this is going to noticeably weaken Westeros militarily and politically. The people who have the greatest lust for Dragonsteel are likely to be the best warriors: knights, nobles, sellswords, that type of folk. Most of Westeros' armies are still composed of levies. They're basically wheat before the Legion's scythe; untrained smallfolk fit to be cut down. It's the second sons, the knights (both hedge and true), the sellswords, and other retainers that form the trained core of fighting men they depend on. They're the only ones who have even a fraction of a hope of standing against us. Despite the fact that the Night's Watch would pull only a few thousand fighting men away from Westeros' armies, I suspect that it would be disproportionately damaging to their overall fighting ability.

Something else this does, incidentally, is weaken the institution of nobility in Westeros. With an increasing number of second sons disqualifying themselves from succession by joining the Watch, there will be fewer nobles for noble jobs. When we come in with new, educated professionals, there will be fewer Westerosi who are capable of performing the same duties. Westerosi lords aren't as educated as a scholar, but they receive tutoring from the Maesters since childhood and that's more education than 99% of the population receives.

With more second sons joining the Watch, it also makes their families that much more likely to go extinct. That's something we can easily take advantage of to reward our subordinates and followers. Conquest is violent; shifting the factors in our favour so that more families go extinct, purely as a result of opposing us, will allow us to take their estates easier.

All of this would be relatively low cost and enormously beneficial. Say we got an enormous, absolutely pie-in-the sky number of recruits; 3,000 Rangers. This would likely be more Rangers than the Night's Watch had even at its height; they've always needed builders and stewards to maintain the Wall and their supplies. There's likely more Stewards and Builders than Rangers and at its height, the Wall was only 10,000 men.

3,000 Rangers getting a VS Longsword each would cost 180 HD worth of Fiends. A tithe compared to the numbers we're otherwise throwing around.

This also has the side benefit of absolutely spitting in the Lannisters' face. Sure, after they looted an outlying manse in Valyria :mad:, they managed to snag a few Valyrian Steel weapons. We've relearned the secret of forging it and can give out those precious gifts like candy. This is something that the Lannisters cannot outdo us on as they have no dragon riders. It will also serve as a prelude, informing the Westerosi of the power and wealth we've amassed. How many more will turn their cloaks to our side when we can create what they value more heavily than wealth, honour, and blood ties?
 
If we're going to start making Valyrian Steel, something we should consider is unloading a boatload of it at the Night's Watch. If it's found out that each Ranger gets their own Valyrian Steel sword, the Westerosi will go absolutely bonkers over it. Second Sons will sign up left, right, and center just so they can get their hands on the fabled steel.

This serves our interests for two purposes: first, it will enormously strengthen the Night's Watch against the Others. Dragonsteel is one of their two noted banes and it doesn't have nearly the same weaknesses that dragonglass has. The Lord Commander has noted that his greatest wish is for more skilled men. Reopening that Watch's various castles has done wonders for getting desperate smallfolk to sign up, but it hasn't been great in attracting actual fighting men. It's much better to get someone who's trained since the age of seven as opposed to raw recruits who have to learn everything on the Watch's time and dime.

If the swords are entailed to the Watch, we don't even have to worry about them disappearing; they would legally be property of the Watch. Include a few, specific maker's marks on the blades and we know when they go missing and someone is stealing from them.

Second, this is going to noticeably weaken Westeros militarily and politically. The people who have the greatest lust for Dragonsteel are likely to be the best warriors: knights, nobles, sellswords, that type of folk. Most of Westeros' armies are still composed of levies. They're basically wheat before the Legion's scythe; untrained smallfolk fit to be cut down. It's the second sons, the knights (both hedge and true), the sellswords, and other retainers that form the trained core of fighting men they depend on. They're the only ones who have even a fraction of a hope of standing against us. Despite the fact that the Night's Watch would pull only a few thousand fighting men away from Westeros' armies, I suspect that it would be disproportionately damaging to their overall fighting ability.

Something else this does, incidentally, is weaken the institution of nobility in Westeros. With an increasing number of second sons disqualifying themselves from succession by joining the Watch, there will be fewer nobles for noble jobs. When we come in with new, educated professionals, there will be fewer Westerosi who are capable of performing the same duties. Westerosi lords aren't as educated as a scholar, but they receive tutoring from the Maesters since childhood and that's more education than 99% of the population receives.

With more second sons joining the Watch, it also makes their families that much more likely to go extinct. That's something we can easily take advantage of to reward our subordinates and followers. Conquest is violent; shifting the factors in our favour so that more families go extinct, purely as a result of opposing us, will allow us to take their estates easier.

All of this would be relatively low cost and enormously beneficial. Say we got an enormous, absolutely pie-in-the sky number of recruits; 3,000 Rangers. This would likely be more Rangers than the Night's Watch had even at its height; they've always needed builders and stewards to maintain the Wall and their supplies. There's likely more Stewards and Builders than Rangers and at its height, the Wall was only 10,000 men.

3,000 Rangers getting a VS Longsword each would cost 180 HD worth of Fiends. A tithe compared to the numbers we're otherwise throwing around.

This also has the side benefit of absolutely spitting in the Lannisters' face. Sure, after they looted an outlying manse in Valyria :mad:, they managed to snag a few Valyrian Steel weapons. We've relearned the secret of forging it and can give out those precious gifts like candy. This is something that the Lannisters cannot outdo us on as they have no dragon riders. It will also serve as a prelude, informing the Westerosi of the power and wealth we've amassed. How many more will turn their cloaks to our side when we can create what they value more heavily than wealth, honour, and blood ties?
I'm not opposed to the idea, we'd actually been planning on something like this for quite a while now. The only thing is it'll probably need to wait until after the Tree of the Dawn Age is grown, likely within the next two or three months once we finish fireproofing it.
 
It's much better to get someone who's trained since the age of seven as opposed to raw recruits who have to learn everything on the Watch's time and dime.

What if we hire trainers ourselves to help bring the new recruits up to spec? The biggest issue of the Watch is always going to be trained manpower and supplies so if we resolve it out of our own pocket then we solve the first without costing the Watch the second.
 
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