Long story short, I'm against committing significant amounts of Viserys time to this. We will need to spend a while actually ruling next month.
This shouldn't take more than two or three days, and would ideally replace whatever adventuring people want to drag him on this turn. He should still have significant amounts of time to rule.
 
@Duesal, while you are rapidly digging up stuff I would search forever for, can you fetch me the list with unfinished tasks that Dracikal made a dew days ago?

Both Healing Salve and Night Tea could be expanded. There is a nigh infinite market for both.

@Goldfish, do we have something against poison and diseases?

Other then that, we need a lot more explosives.
The best we can do for disease and poison remedies with Alchemy would be Antiplague and Antitoxin. They are both fairly effective, but somewhat expensive and with a relatively high crafting DC, so it would be difficult to produce them in significant quantities.
 
"Deciphering the Golden Egg"?
An accompanying action to Waymar doing alchemy course - Tyene is busy with decyphering the mess that this book is, as the precise measurments on the back seem to show that it is indeed a cypher, and not jsut a bunch of madman's gibberish.

Hopefully it will add a hefty bonus to Waymar's action.
 
I see precisely zero reason to recruit Jaime Lannister except Pokemon.
Same. I'm really not in support of it, and it needlessly risks blowing our cover to try, so when the time comes I'll be voting against it.
*Shrugs* Alright, whatever. It's been ten minutes and I'm already sick of this, so do whatever you want. Is there any other parts of my plan you have an opinion on?
 
Both Healing Salve and Night Tea could be expanded. There is a nigh infinite market for both.

@Goldfish, do we have something against poison and diseases?

Other then that, we need a lot more explosives.
@Goldfish, how much can we expand our production by? I would like to expand Healing Salve and Night Tee, and add facilities for Antiplague, Antitoxin, and Insect Repellant. Especially Insect Repellant. That one will be a massive money-maker as the Imperium expands into the jungles.
An accompanying action to Waymar doing alchemy course - Tyene is busy with decyphering the mess that this book is, as the precise measurments on the back seem to show that it is indeed a cypher, and not jsut a bunch of madman's gibberish.

Hopefully it will add a hefty bonus to Waymar's action.
Oh, neat. So presumably with the completion of this we can start getting alchemist minions.
 
The best we can do for disease and poison remedies with Alchemy would be Antiplague and Antitoxin. They are both fairly effective, but somewhat expensive and with a relatively high crafting DC, so it would be difficult to produce them in significant quantities.
Sounds still decent. We should produce those two and insect repellent for the open market, prioritizing Naath and the Basilisk Isles for sale.
 
*Shrugs* Alright, whatever. It's been ten minutes and I'm already sick of this, so do whatever you want. Is there any other parts of my plan you have an opinion on?
Chill. You are just proposing to recruit two people I see no reason at all to recruit except fan desire.

As for the rest, it mostly aligns with my ideas, though I'm a bit more ambitious.

I want to throw serious Intrigue ressources at KL to kill Varys, subvert his network and set up the first external Inquisition base there.
 
*Shrugs* Alright, whatever. It's been ten minutes and I'm already sick of this, so do whatever you want. Is there any other parts of my plan you have an opinion on?
The two things I brought up were my main issues, I have no problem with the other stuff.
Chill. You are just proposing to recruit two people I see no reason at all to recruit except fan desire.

As for the rest, it mostly aligns with my ideas, though I'm a bit more ambitious.

I want to throw serious Intrigue ressources at KL to kill Varys, subvert his network and set up the first external Inquisition base there.
Maybe we could hunt Varys down in the dreamscape and murder him there?
 
@DragonParadox Can we use the sets of Valyrian Dragon barding we have to create Warlord's Saddles for use with our dragons?

It would make suiting them up and removing the armor during downtime much simpler.

You could yes

Vote closed.
Adhoc vote count started by Goldfish on Jan 11, 2019 at 5:44 AM, finished with 155 posts and 10 votes.

  • [X] Resolve to interrogate all captured fiends over the course of the next month that you may further sunder their plans in Prime Material
    -[X] Get an accounting of all the gear that you've confiscated from them (like the Bag of Holding you saw the Harvester Devil with in White Harbor)
    -[X] Continue to personally check up on your Sarnori vassals in Sallosh, get a report from them, see the state of the undead and how they interact with the new settlers, see what they might need, etc. You'll decide on the details once you have eyes on the situation.
 
@LonelyWolf999, as a compromise, I wanted to assign Dany to that task due to her dream abilities. How about also taking Rhealla along to exploit her knowledge of the keep and if she decides to try and recruit Baristan on her own, I won't complain.
 
Do you know what might be nice a month or two from now? Rings of Prestidigitation for all the party. Quality of life type thing.
That can be arranged.
@Goldfish, how much can we expand our production by? I would like to expand Healing Salve and Night Tee, and add facilities for Antiplague, Antitoxin, and Insect Repellant. Especially Insect Repellant. That one will be a massive money-maker as the Imperium expands into the jungles.

Oh, neat. So presumably with the completion of this we can start getting alchemist minions.
We can expand as much as we want, if we're willing to pay. Each production line is really expensive to set up and takes a month before it can even begin producing items.
Sounds still decent. We should produce those two and insect repellent for the open market, prioritizing Naath and the Basilisk Isles for sale.
We have eight production lines now. I wouldn't want to add more than four more at a time. We also need to be careful of not expanding past the limit of eligible project managers with the necessary Alchemy ranks.

We still have Mercy and Valeria to produce limited numbers of less important items or things not worth setting up an entire production line.
 
We can expand as much as we want, if we're willing to pay. Each production line is really expensive to set up and takes a month before it can even begin producing items.
I'd say we're willing to pay. This is a major cash cow for us.
We have eight production lines now. I wouldn't want to add more than four more at a time. We also need to be careful of not expanding past the limit of eligible project managers with the necessary Alchemy ranks.

We still have Mercy and Valeria to produce limited numbers of less important items or things not worth setting up an entire production line.
How long does it take to train new managers?
 
Alright, here's my King's Landing intrigue action idea. This will require Viserys' personal participation, but I belive that it's worth his time. @Azel - any advice or criticism?

Last time we went to KL the obvious focus was on dealing with the Wildfire and those who produced it, and so our Red Keep trip was something of a short afterthought in which we only half-assed a 'spy network' and got rid of the rest of the Substance. This time, we should make a concentrated effort to accomplish several objectives focusing on information gathering, threat removal, and asset acquisition.

First of all, Info Gathering. We should check in on our new friend the 'innkeeper' and figure who he's told about last time. We can decide whether to climb the ladder or turn him into a serious asset from there. We should also make effort to learn about King Robert, Jon Arryn, the Small Council, etc. We can't rely on canon knowledge due to the number of changes at this point, and knowing what makes our enemy tick is key to being able to manipulate them. Figuring out which one of them is working for Mammon is also important, as well as updating ourselves on the Baelish situation even if he isn't the rat.

On to Asset Aquisition. The two key figures I think we have a chance of snagging are Ser Barristan 'the Bold' and Ser Jaime 'The Kingslayer.' Just to be clear, I'm well aware of the fact that there's no guarantee that it'll work, but I believe it's worth the negligible risk - if things don't work out we should just be able to wipe the memories of the event from their minds, and Viserys is a social combat master. With Ser Barristan, I'd attack the honor of the Kingsguard. He just flipped sides while Rhaeger's corpse was still fresh and has been leading the Usurper's travesty of a Kingsguard, he has no goddamn right to judge the Kingslayer who arguably has held truer to his oaths than Barristan (dropping the Wildfire bombshell is a risk, but ultimately not serious due to it all being gone and there not being any reliable witnesses). Basically, my plan is to state that he's not going to be able to just switch sides again when we inevitably take King's Landing and that he should either A. - do that Arstan Whitebeard thing until he gets his honor back, or B. joins us. Revealing that we have no intention of reforming the Kingsguard due to being so disgusted with the institution could work. In total, the idea is less to get him and more to deny him to Robert, preferably in a really public way.

Jaime is going to be much trickier, but I believe we can pull it off. Judging by the fact that he's heavy drinking and spilling the 'killed Aerys because wildfire' secret to a more or less completely random stranger, I think it's safe to assume Cersei's ditched him. Approaching him does have the second objective of finding out about the Twincest debacle, which would be incredibly useful to know IC. Getting the Baratheons and Lannisters to split into a civil war at the right moment is great for us pretty much no matter what. As for Jaime himself, it really depends on how much his characterization has progressed - the key point here will be his attachment to Tywin. Everything else can be handled, including his children and the rest of the Lannisters, but Tywin's dying horribly no matter what, and although there's hardly any affection between them it'll still be something else to betray your own father and family. Jaime did hold genuine loyalty to Rhaegar and he feels horribly guilty over the fates of Rhaenys, Elia, and Aegon. It's complex, and I genuinely don't know how things will work out, so we'll consider looting him a secondary possibility while the primary objective will be to IC discover the Twincest.

Most important of all is rescuing Belarion The Cat so we may give Rhaenys the best present ever. It shouldn't be that difficult to find him with a Wayfinder in the Red Keep.

Finally, Threat Elimination. We need to murder Varys. It doesn't even have to be subtle, just kill him in a way that can't be reversed. Or better yet, capture him. That way we don't have to worry about him getting revived and can squeeze every bit of knowledge out of his skull. I wouldn't count on that being easy, though, since he's going to be on alert since we rescued one of his maimed kids. If we discover Mammon's catspaw, we may want to just rid ourselves of them depending on who they are and how much of a threat they actually pose. Other than that ... wow, there really isn't much that can actually threaten us in King's Landing, is there?
Sound reasoning, though I don't think attempting to flip Jaime is worth the effort or risk, and Barristan just gets on my nerves too much to want to deal with him at all.
 
Master of Laws - Supposedly in charge of enforcing the realms justice, but considering the decentralized nature of the Seven Kingdoms this is mostly a symbolic duty. The true power lies in their responsibility over the Watchmen in King's Landing and the Dungeons. This means that they are the de-facto highest power in the city of King's Landing proper. The current holder of the office is unknown. Considering that Renly was at Storms End when he ransomed Stannis, it is unlikely he ever held the office.

I ended up asking about that over PMs.

Canon is still a few years away from when you are right now. The master of Laws is still lord Estermont Robert's grandfather.
 
That can be arranged.

We can expand as much as we want, if we're willing to pay. Each production line is really expensive to set up and takes a month before it can even begin producing items.

We have eight production lines now. I wouldn't want to add more than four more at a time. We also need to be careful of not expanding past the limit of eligible project managers with the necessary Alchemy ranks.

We still have Mercy and Valeria to produce limited numbers of less important items or things not worth setting up an entire production line.
Then I would do 2 lines of Explosive Packs to supply the army and one line of healing balms and night tea as cash cows.
 
Then I would do 2 lines of Explosive Packs to supply the army and one line of healing balms and night tea as cash cows.
Saan and Wyla are staring balefully at you from beneath hundreds of mosquito bites. :V On a more serious note, one of those Explosive Packs should be Insect Repellant instead.

@Goldfish @Azel, I found something really neat when I was poking around Dragon Magazine 280, found on page 53:

Soupstone:
When dropped into a container of water, this small smooth stone turns the water into a hot, nourishing broth of a flavor chosen when the stone is made. A soupstone can transform up to ten gallons of water before it becomes inert. It has no effect on water-based creatures like water elementals.
Crafting DC: (Alchemy 15)
Cost: 300 gp or 60 IM

Possible resource for a marching Legion? Also a great resource for an adventuring party. It's literally instant soup, perfect for rough traveling.

Also, in the same magazine, page 52:

Insect Repellant:
This strong-smelling liquid can be applied to the skin to repel insects. It keeps Tiny or smaller insects at bay for 4 hours per application. Larger insects and those under the control of a spell must make a Will Save (DC 12) to approach a protected character. The benefit is lost if the character attacks the insect.
Crafting DC: (Alchemy 15)
Cost: 5 gp or 1 IM

... Needless to say we should spam the hell out of Insect Repellant.
 
*Shrugs* Alright, whatever. It's been ten minutes and I'm already sick of this, so do whatever you want. Is there any other parts of my plan you have an opinion on?

It's just the circumstances put the tide against you there. Jaime needed and still needs to be in his darkest, most desperate, phase of his life before he's even really worth considering spending more than a few minutes thinking about him. He's still that early phase Jaime who threw a child out a window to preserve an illicit tryst with his own sister, the Queen.

And even beyond that, things being what they are, while his family is still mostly intact, he won't betray them.

Barristan I have no feelings about one way or the other, but I doubt he'll come seeking us. He had a low opinion of Viserys since he was a child without ever actually having met him after that fact, just trusting in confirmation bias, as I believe he did in a lot of things if you pay attention to his perspective and shared opinions with various characters.

More than that, he's a knight who believes in that White Cloak and that it still carries honor. We saw that honor die with Aerys' reign in more than one pretty white cloak.
 
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Hey so are there any artifacts or objects that are sacred or important to the Ithhlid? For our war I was thinking we grab such an artifact and have the Old Gods lay a blood curse on it. That way they are weak and we can kill them in droves.
 
Hey so are there any artifacts or objects that are sacred or important to the Ithhlid? For our war I was thinking we grab such an artifact and have the Old Gods lay a blood curse on it. That way they are weak and we can kill them in droves.
The Seastone Chair comes to mind, but that's about it. We already sacrificed the Driftwood Crown. All other artifacts are just legends we haven't encountered yet, so mostly a moot point.
 
Saan and Wyla are staring balefully at you from beneath hundreds of mosquito bites. :V On a more serious note, one of those Explosive Packs should be Insect Repellant instead.

@Goldfish @Azel, I found something really neat when I was poking around Dragon Magazine 280, found on page 53:

Soupstone:
When dropped into a container of water, this small smooth stone turns the water into a hot, nourishing broth of a flavor chosen when the stone is made. A soupstone can transform up to ten gallons of water before it becomes inert. It has no effect on water-based creatures like water elementals.
Crafting DC: (Alchemy 15)
Cost: 300 gp or 60 IM

Possible resource for a marching Legion? Also a great resource for an adventuring party. It's literally instant soup, perfect for rough traveling.

Also, in the same magazine, page 52:

Insect Repellant:
This strong-smelling liquid can be applied to the skin to repel insects. It keeps Tiny or smaller insects at bay for 4 hours per application. Larger insects and those under the control of a spell must make a Will Save (DC 12) to approach a protected character. The benefit is lost if the character attacks the insect.
Crafting DC: (Alchemy 15)
Cost: 5 gp or 1 IM

... Needless to say we should spam the hell out of Insect Repellant.
That soupstone is hilariously overpriced.

As for insect repellent, if we want to broaden our repertoire I would rather switch the healing balm and night tea to insects and antiplaugue
 
@LonelyWolf999, as a compromise, I wanted to assign Dany to that task due to her dream abilities. How about also taking Rhealla along to exploit her knowledge of the keep and if she decides to try and recruit Baristan on her own, I won't complain.
That would be fine, although I highly doubt Rhaella would enjoy returning to the Red Keep or be inclined to want Barristan back.

Basically, my logic for Barristan is that he's probably a high level PC, he's extremely respected and thus him defecting to us would be a massive PR hit, and I don't like the current plan of him just repeating the same shit he did at the Ruby Ford and bowing to the winning king. I want to make him confront what a disgrace the Kingsguard has made of itself long before Jaime murdered our father and Robert filled it with scum, and do something about it. Whether that's swearing to us or going adventuring in disguise in an effort to rediscover the true meaning of chivalry is equally acceptable in my eyes. What I'm trying to say is that he's been not just a shiny I want to grab, there are valid strategic reasons for this.
 
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