On the one hand Viserys would understand Dragon Age policy to train mages since kinda like WH they are at risk of being possessed by demons and blood magic is near universally awful, also he would not like Tevinter Imperium much at all due to culture, but at the same time Chantry and Templars also stupid since they give reason for mages not to hold back even when most are likely good people.

Dragon Age does a good job being a grey setting but Viserys would obviously want to fix things if able.

Beyond that, Viserys being an Actual Dragon makes him perhaps a shiny beyond all shinies for the Darkspawn so there would be a huge target on his back.

Hooray for combat ready flight!
 
Beyond that, Viserys being an Actual Dragon makes him perhaps a shiny beyond all shinies for the Darkspawn so there would be a huge target on his back.

Hooray for combat ready flight!
Of course he isn't sleeping so would be against any attempts to corrupt him, not sure if it would work on him either.

Funny thing is I'm pretty sure all the High Dragons in DA settings are female with harems of flightless drakes, so true Dragon Viserys would be super attractive to them.:p

Also shapeshifters powerful enough to become dragons are also a thing and like said back to Imperium who who worship dragons.
 
Warhammer Fantasy, Dragonlance, Discworld, Dragon Age, Warcraft, actual DnD, Wheel of Time, Lord of the Rings, Witcher, etc.
I think Warhammer Fantasy would be an absolutely epic crossover. The more I think about it, the cooler it seems - it would also be a sandbox in which you could bring the entire cast without breaking the setting, as you really don't want to duke it out with Chaos without bringing anything but your A-game.
 
All these omakes has me wondering how Viserys would do in other fantasy settings in general in the multiverse.

Warhammer Fantasy, Dragonlance, Discworld, Dragon Age, Warcraft, actual DnD, Wheel of Time, Lord of the Rings, Witcher, etc.

Anyone have any thoughts? After all all these worlds are different in general despite being same genre.

I can imagine Viserys initial confusion as to why Rand is the "Dragon Reborn".

Alternatively everyone else's confusion if Viserys turns up early enough, and being able to turn into an actual dragon.
 
Warhammer fantasy..heh. He is never going to run out of people to burn and things to fix. And, he will still probably fail against the grimdark eventually.

As for Wheel of time, The Dragon banner has the eastern type of Dragon on it. Not like Viserys at all.
 
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As a note, the reason that I am screaming incoherently about other crossover possibilities is that whilst Viserys will be heading home at the end of Horde Thief (I'm sure this is a huge surprise to everyone) there is margin for...um...error on his way back. This means that it's entirely within the realms of possibility that he and pretty much the full cast could end up in some other places before getting home. Hence my pleas for people to stop (mostly jokingly) as all you're doing at this point is giving me ideas.
 
Warhammer fantasy..heh. He is never going to run out of people to burn and things to fix. And, he will still probably fail against the grimdark eventually.
It is a setting in which he personally couldn't handle everything, which is part of why it would be so interesting. It's also a good opportunity to be able to branch out of the usual concept, which just has Viserys or one other character. Honestly, I think bringing the whole kingdom over would be the coolest - can you imagine the legion clashing against a Greenskin Waaaauuuuugh! Ser Richard getting separated and going on adventures with Teclis, Daenerys duking it out in the Warp, Waymar and Tyene having a blast in the Empire, and so on. So much possibility!
 
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As a note, the reason that I am screaming incoherently about other crossover possibilities is that whilst Viserys will be heading home at the end of Horde Thief (I'm sure this is a huge surprise to everyone) there is margin for...um...error on his way back. This means that it's entirely within the realms of possibility that he and pretty much the full cast could end up in some other places before getting home. Hence my pleas for people to stop (mostly jokingly) as all you're doing at this point is giving me ideas.
I think that the best setting for that senario would be 'regular DnD.' It's not something I'm intimately familiar with, unlike the other proposed ideas, but it would be much easier to fit into the Grand universe, and everything would still fit in there.
 
On this topic, I think I've been informed that there may or may not be plans to alchemically enhance our soldiers. If that is the case and it's being discussed in PMs, would it be alright if I joined the conversation?

If not, then boy howdy do I have ideas for distilling aspects of the Alchemist Class into a ritual to make Jaugermunster equivalents.
 
Heh. Viserys would go all the way on unifying all factions so that they stop fighting about stupid bullshit. He would despise the fanatics who worship either the light or the void, though.

Also he would likely have to murder Sylvanas, Magatha Grimtotem, and a couple troublemakers more.
If he arrived during BFA he would try, but at this point we are quite beyond the point where peace is feasible any time soon, that point was passed when Sylvanas burnt Teldrassil, at this point the Alliances general opinion of peace with the Horde, is like the Old gods opinion of peace with the Seven, namely maybe once the fuckers have been sufficiently punished.

And don't bring the Saurfang movement up please, in my opinion the Alliance should give that movement, precisely enough support that they can fight a rebellion on even term with Sylvanas, and then swoop in and destroy whatever force remains, Saurfang was there when Teldrassil burned, and still he served Sylvanas, it was only when Sylvanas left him to rot in prison, the coward dared risk his honor by turning on Sylvanas.
 
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If he arrived during BFA he would try, but at this point we are quite beyond the point where peace is feasible any time soon, that point was passed when Sylvanas burnt Teldrassil, at this point the Alliances general opinion of peace with the Horde, is like the Old gods opinion of peace with the Seven, namely maybe once the fuckers have been sufficiently punished.

And don't bring the Saurfang movement up please, in my opinion the Alliance should give that movement, precisely enough support that they can fight a rebellion on even term with Sylvanas, and then swoop in and destroy whatever force remains, Saurfang was there when Teldrassil burned, and still he served Sylvanas, it was only when Sylvanas left him to rot in prison, the coward dared risk his honor by turning on Sylvanas.

Viserys might need to manhandle the night elves, but otherwise I don't see that much of a problem if he, for example, challenged Sylvanas to a Mak'gora and became the leader of the horde. The Alliance would notice the shift in ideology as soon as he entered and stopped, for example, the production of the new blight (because we all know that there are more humane methods of mass murder available to him).

Viserys wouldn't do anything with Saurfang, I think. He wants competent people, not... Saurfangs.
 
All these omakes has me wondering how Viserys would do in other fantasy settings in general in the multiverse.

Warhammer Fantasy, Dragonlance, Discworld, Dragon Age, Warcraft, actual DnD, Wheel of Time, Lord of the Rings, Witcher, Elder Scrolls, etc.

Anyone have any thoughts? After all all these worlds are different in general despite being same genre.
WHF would be all sorts of interesting by virtue of unlimited fires to put out.

Don't know much about DL. Or Discworld.

All I remember about Dragon Age was that the Dreamlands equivalent (the Fade?) is chockfull of demons, and mages can be possessed by them. And that Origins and Inquisition are bloody amazing, while the second one just has the name. Probably try to unfuck Church/Mages relationship.

Warcraft is for neeeerds :V

Which D&D setting? Greyhawk, Faerun, Eberron?

No idea about WoT except for funky male/female casting.

Slap the BBEG in LOTR, abuse teleport maliciously to solve a whole lot of trouble. Do an Alucard x Luke Valentine impression against Smaug.

Waaaay too strong for Witcher.

Afaik, Elder Scrolls diverges considerably in lore and actual game scale. So it depends?
 
Viserys might need to manhandle the night elves, but otherwise I don't see that much of a problem if he, for example, challenged Sylvanas to a Mak'gora and became the leader of the horde. The Alliance would notice the shift in ideology as soon as he entered and stopped, for example, the production of the new blight (because we all know that there are more humane methods of mass murder available to him).

Viserys wouldn't do anything with Saurfang, I think. He wants competent people, not... Saurfangs.
Problem is that the Alliance wouldn't just accept that, they would demand reparations preferably in blood before discussing peace, because the Night Elves would straight up leave otherwise, and the Gilneans would probably follow them.

The Horde has been using plague bombs, it's been raising dead heroes of the alliance as mind controlled slaves, it's been slaughtering civilians, even if Sylvanas die, that's going to be far from enough.

And the Alliance has people who can fight Viserys, Jaina, Tyrande, Malfurion, Velen and Anduin at least should be at least level 18 in D&D calculations, and they are far from the only ones.
 
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Wheel of time...Hmm. Now I am just imagining Rand getting mentored by Viserys. Hahaha. It would be glorious.

Edit : Viserys would need to be careful against high level channelers though, balefire can one shot even him. And Channelers have insane reaction speed and multitasking when it comes to their "spells".
 
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    -[X] "You seem rather impatient my lady. Not even a name I have to call you by, yet you interject so harshly."
    -[X] "Two questions are raised by your words. One, what dominions you are speaking off and two, what Mace Tyrells stake in the matter is."
    -[X] "So far, I see little reason why I should let you claim the crown, for an independent kingdom in the Reach is hardly something I look forward to, be it headed by men or Fey."
 
Wheel of time...Hmm. Now I am just imagining Rand getting mentored by Viserys. Hahaha. It would be glorious.

Edit : Viserys would need to be careful against high level channelers though, balefire can one shot even him. And they have insane reaction speed and multitasking when it comes to their "spells".
Viserys has answers for Ranged Touch attacks.

Ray Deflection is the best.
 
Problem is that the Alliance wouldn't just accept that, they would demand reparations preferably in blood before discussing peace, because the Night Elves would straight up leave otherwise, and the Gilneans would probably follow them.

The Horde has been using plague bombs, it's been raising dead heroes of the alliance as mind controlled slaves, it's been slaughtering civilians, even if Sylvanas die, that's going to be far from enough.

And the Alliance has people who can fight Viserys, Jaina, Tyrande, Malfurion, Velen and Anduin at least should be at least level 18 in D&D calculations, and they are far from the only ones.

Hence the need to bitchslap the night elves and possibly worgen into sense.

The casus belli of the alliance wuld cease the moment Viserys stop the fucked up shit. Then it would be a matter of either diplamancing the alliance or beating Tyrande and Greymane into submission.
 
Hence the need to bitchslap the night elves and possibly worgen into sense.

The casus belli of the alliance wuld cease the moment Viserys stop the fucked up shit. Then it would be a matter of either diplamancing the alliance or beating Tyrande and Greymane into submission.
Whether Viserys could win against them is less than definite, and the casus belli don't stop just because the Horde stop doing the fucked up shit, only once the Horde has made amends, what the Horde has done cry for Vengeance, the fact they don't add more to the grudges, don't change the fact, that the Horde owe the Alliance a serious debt of blood.

The Alliance already tried forgiving the Horde once it changed leader once, and that got them Sylvanas as an enemy, this time they wont stop, before the Horde has paid the price for their aggression.

And it's not just Genn and Tyrande he would face, Jaina and Kul Tiras would join them as well, and in all likelihood that would mean the whole Alliance join, as new nicer Horde or not, they are going to split in 2, while their enemy is stronger than ever.

The situation is rather like how the Old gods see the Seven, and just like with the Seven an apology and promise not to do it again isn't enough, the Horde must suffer as we have.

So unless Viserys is ready to make the Horde pay crippling reparations, he can't just end the war between the Horde and the Alliance, and kicking Tyrande's and Genns asses wont work, that will just make the rest of the Alliance really commit to taking him out.

The Horde made it's bed, now they must lie in it.
 
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Hence the need to bitchslap the night elves and possibly worgen into sense.

The casus belli of the alliance wuld cease the moment Viserys stop the fucked up shit. Then it would be a matter of either diplamancing the alliance or beating Tyrande and Greymane into submission.

The latter part of this sentence is hysterical to me.

"Stop. Being. So. Fucking. Stupid!"

"Why are you hitting me?!"

"Because otherwise you'll never learn!"
 
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