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That was just a note that we have it. I'm not in favor of ever loaning this out, it should always stay with Tyene.
A Sword Without a Hilt: A Song of Ice and Fire/D&D 3.5 Crossover
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There's the fiendish spider venom.
ryuan
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At this point it's less poisoning them and more like drowning them.
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Not yet.
We are still yet to install the fungal pods.
Then...
Mwhaha... Those calculations of mine, even low-balled, promise metric tons of hydra bloodpoison made on weekly basis...
Spider venom... Well, it will be ways off, but still made in copious amounts, yes.
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Great omake @Snowfire. A very exciting and suspenseful fight that left me curious about what the reactions will be not only from Harry but the Senior Council. I mean here is a being that can match and kill a demigod in a fair fight and there do not seem to be any metaphysical limits on what he can and cannot do. That is going to make them very wary I suspect.
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Nice one.
We, in this game, will likely never use Hellfire Ray because we have no interest in damning our foes to Hell.
But Viserys is cut of from that, no chance of accidental damnation.
Some magical suggestions:
Blinding Glory - Therafim RPG
Can't be dispelled by darkness, lasts an hour. That should have severly reduced any darkness-based effects the Formor was throwing around.
Veil Of Undeath - Therafim RPG
Makes you even more immune to the whole life-draining, soul-harming stuff the formor are throwing around than a Death Ward.
Erupt – Spell – D&D Tools
This one is very impractical in most situations, but if you have a fortress full of mooks saying "The floor is now lava, yes the entire floor" might come in handy.
Propably not okay with the prisoners though.
Edit: Also sad that he didn't do a Scribe's Binding on the bastard in the end.
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God's in DND are usually not impressive for their raw power (no destroying multiple solar systems with a single warp storm for them), but by how versatile and unrestricted their power is.
Miracle can and has done everything under the sun, even things that are suppose to beyond the impossible in it's own setting.
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Miracle in the hands of a god yes. Viserys is more conceptually limited than that being 'just' a Red dragon using his own inner power.
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That's still every Cleric spell up to 8, every Sorcerer/Wizard spell up to 9 from Wild Arcana and any other spell of level 7 or lower, including these elusive Druid spells we have a hard time getting otherwise.
That is not world-shatteringly powerful, but certainly incredibly versatile.
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Naw, its the equivalent effects thing.
If its a 9th level spell to open a stable portal between dimension, what level is it to simply gouge a hole in the fabric of space time?
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I'm not sure what you are trying to say?
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Too me what makes these "wishcraft" spells so dangerous is their versatility. Not their raw punchiness.
Wish :: d20srd.org
"You may try to use a wish to produce greater effects than these, but doing so is dangerous. (The wish may pervert your intent into a literal but undesirable fulfillment or only a partial fulfillment.)"
This for wish can cause massive amounts of harm. Just pouring wild magic into an area, possibly worse things depending on how the DM handles reckless or malicious over stressing of wishes.
And of course, miracle.
-Duplicate any cleric spell of 8th level or lower (including spells to which you have access because of your domains).
-Duplicate any other spell of 7th level or lower.
-Undo the harmful effects of certain spells, such as feeblemind or insanity.
-Have any effect whose power level is in line with the above effects.
Its like wish, but you can be more precise!
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In my interpretation, not sure if @DragonParadox shares it, that is because in a regular Miracle you ask your god to define the details of the effect in a way that accomplishes the intention, while you have to do that yourself in a Wish.
And since gods hae usually high Wisdom and can take 20 on the attempt to formulate the effect, that's save. Outsourcing for the win.
However, in our case we grant the Miracle ourselves, so we have to be just as careful what we ask for as with Wish.
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Well...
We care about things like, unintended side effects. As well as "preserving the fabric of reality".
If someone with this kind of power didnt...
Or was actively trying to wipe out all life in their use of miracles?
Then the inevitables take them out.
Crake
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I argue the opposite, since we can use the wisdom of our ancestors linked to the Dragon Dream. @DragonParadox?
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Is it odd I find that thought both reassuring and terrifying?
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Miracle to cast,
Yup, that. He needed a way to break through the wave of darkness the Fomor was calling down on them. Sunburst seemed fitting. Unfortunately, he had to drop that pretty much directly on top of himself, hence why Harry is currently seeing white space instead of anything else.
Will-based attacks don't give a fuck
And it was Nine Lives, actually. The Cat's Luck effect.
Fighting what is effectively a demigod. Its entire powerset is built around entropy magic. I'd have been shocked if it couldn't find its way through a conceptual defence like those. But don't worry, Viserys will be fine after a Greater Restoration or two.
Kringle outranks her, yes. But we have Lea and Mab outright stating that the former is lesser only to the latter in the Winter Court on more than one occasion. In terms of personal power, at least.
Eh, I disagree with you here. Chichen Itza was the heart of the Red Court's power, the centre of their worship. The High Noble Viserys just fought was in a place of their power, yes, but nothing that metaphysically weighty. Still badass as hell to go in against it and win, but a bit less so.
Yeah, there's going to be some of the very real concerns in line with those shown off in Turn Coat re: Dresden, when the Wardens were afraid of him. But the Senior Council proper is going to be much more interested in why a being of this sort of power is running around. How Viserys got that strength is interesting, but the why is crucial - or would be, if he was a creature of the DF-verse. Of course, they don't know that and he can't really tell them, so the assumption will be 'godawfully powerful being, presumably human at some point, but who knows, that has been hanging in the Nevernever for god only knows how long'. And now it's woken up, requested a meeting, brought the Fomor in North America to the negotiating table in a fortnight to make that meeting happen, and will be standing there telling them to do a better job.
Consider what that could look like.
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Blurbs added to Ysilla and Wyla under vassals.
Crake
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It would look fairly humiliating, with the only thing keeping "I am hand-operated via stick inserted up my asshole" Senior Council members at the table being the fact that the consequences of playing hardball are less palatable than saying "okay so maybe we can improve on things in some regards".
Which ultimately is a compromise I see Viserys accepting, so long as there is the caveat that they will continually improve incrementally and not just get lazy and call it a day. After all, Earth isn't his world, and I doubt he has any interest in herding kittens on it longer than absolutely necessary.
Which ultimately is a compromise I see Viserys accepting, so long as there is the caveat that they will continually improve incrementally and not just get lazy and call it a day. After all, Earth isn't his world, and I doubt he has any interest in herding kittens on it longer than absolutely necessary.
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Not that simple. Viserys is powerful, sure, but the White Council was gearing up to slam dunk the entire Red Court in Changes, before Harry went caveman dad on them. There are some holes in his knowledge too, important ones, and the Senior Council will use those. That Dresden will be willing to vouch for Viserys, well it has upsides and downsides. The Merlin and the more conservative bloc won't be all that will to play ball without a lot more info, whereas the 'progressive' faction will see his involvement as a godsend.
And even with Create Demiplane being more limited by metaphysics, the fact of the matter is that the gate function of it could create a nexus of singe-step Ways to every city on the planet. All you have to do is go to the right one. Given how difficult it's implied Mab's connection to Chicago from Arctis Tor must have been to make, this is no joke. So there are quite practical reasons to listen to Viserys, if only for what he has to trade.
The problem, of course, being verifying what he is as non-malicious.
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"... Merlin?
"That would be a little permanency-costly - effectively once for every gate you want to set up in the hub.
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Seriously suggesting Blinding Glory here.
Only blinds evil creatures and lasts much longer.
Considering Harry's will-fight against Mother Winter, a will save seems like it would be precisely applicable. Although I think Harry used Soulfire for that one.Will-based attacks don't give a fuck