Yeah, there's going to be some of the very real concerns in line with those shown off in Turn Coat re: Dresden, when the Wardens were afraid of him. But the Senior Council proper is going to be much more interested in why a being of this sort of power is running around. How Viserys got that strength is interesting, but the why is crucial - or would be, if he was a creature of the DF-verse. Of course, they don't know that and he can't really tell them, so the assumption will be 'godawfully powerful being, presumably human at some point, but who knows, that has been hanging in the Nevernever for god only knows how long'. And now it's woken up, requested a meeting, brought the Fomor in North America to the negotiating table in a fortnight to make that meeting happen, and will be standing there telling them to do a better job.

Consider what that could look like.

My guess is that they would see him as a less insane, idealistic Kemler, a wizard who chaffed at the Laws so much he abandoned his humanity to transcend them and is now working to change those aspects of Council policy he most despised. Perhaps he even had a loved one who was executed for Law-breaking.
 
Then the inevitables take them out.
They have some problems acting against that level power.

The kind of Inevitable tasked with dealing with space-time fabric destruction would be Quaruth, which are powerful, but not to the level of someone throwing around Miracles like candy.
So it would likely come down to one or a few of those scouting and studying the situation, returning to Axis, getting an appropriatly-sized task force of Inevitables together (which is not easy because other Inevitables will never abandon their duty, even if another one thinks there is something more important to do) and then attack with a force they deem strong enough to achieve a very likely victory.

That is some time to damage the fabric of reality...
 
What about Vesil the Shadow Drake for a sorcerer?

I'm not keen on the gremlin Beguiller. Team needs a divine caster.
He need a cleric of Yss, for all his sacrifice needs, he's going into the Feywild, there's sure to be plenty to feed Yss with.

I'm assuming that Clerics of Yss can ritually sacrifice things to Yss outside a temple, seem like the kind of class feature being his Cleric would grant.
I'm against risking a CotF here. We still need to breed them.
Risk them all you want, DP has confirmed that if we don't find the Ifequevron, then they are sure to choose to agree to repopulate their specie though reincarnation, so them taking casualties would actually benefit us, as it would make it more likely for them to agree to the reincarnation plan, and COTF can all gain druid levels, so we could really use a group of reincarnated COTF loyal to us, training to become druids, and every death they take makes them more desperate, so they are likely to agree to reincarnation sooner.
 
That is some time to damage the fabric of reality...
In the Elder Evils supplement, there's an inevitable around (Kolyaruth?) that wants to awaken the bottled evil in a can that would then proceed to eat the gods, because it was sealed away by breaching a contract. Any time it gets defeated, it's assembly is updated and an optimized version is created and sent again.
 
In the Elder Evils supplement, there's an inevitable around (Kolyaruth?) that wants to awaken the bottled evil in a can that would then proceed to eat the gods, because it was sealed away by breaching a contract. Any time it gets defeated, it's assembly is updated and an optimized version is created and sent again.
I remember.

At least the other Inevitables are smart enough not to help that one, though they can't hinder him on his mission either.
 
That would be a little permanency-costly - effectively once for every gate you want to set up in the hub.

Viserys' monetary reserves are, at this point, effectively equal to 'yes'. And there are all those handy blood diamond mines out there, who knows what might happen to them :V

Considering Harry's will-fight against Mother Winter, a will save seems like it would be precisely applicable. Although I think Harry used Soulfire for that one.

He did. And to be fair, it is resisted through a will save, the effective DC is just super high.

My guess is that they would see him as a less insane, idealistic Kemler, a wizard who chaffed at the Laws so much he abandoned his humanity to transcend them and is now working to change those aspects of Council policy he most despised.

I mean, they're not exactly wrong in this comparison.
 
True, but since your attack is scheduled anyway (it has to be, because helicopters), you can start casting almost an hour before and have the attack start just before you are done. You can literally use a chronometer.

The issue here is that it's freakin obvious when it goes up, and it's the sort of magic that I can see veils having a lot of trouble with. More to the point, I wasn't aware the spell existed until after I wrote the piece. So...y'know. Limitations.
 
Will-based attacks don't give a fuck :V
He did. And to be fair, it is resisted through a will save, the effective DC is just super high
I mean, that's what I was asking, if Viserys derped his will... Check? Instead of save. +28 is a lot of Will.

On that note, is the "crushing with Will" thing something he could pick up? Hm, it's sort of like Imperious Glare, actually, which also leaves them cowering and is keyed off his frightful presence.
 
I mean, that's what I was asking, if Viserys derped his will... Check? Instead of save. +28 is a lot of Will.

Mechanically, he rolled not-so-well on his save, and the High Noble was focusing most of its attention on him over Harry. Harry still had to make a save, but he's got more experience resisting this specific form of attack, and that counts.

On that note, is the "crushing with Will" thing something he could pick up? Hm, it's sort of like Imperious Glare, actually, which also leaves them cowering and is keyed off his frightful presence.

Probably not. Viserys is powerful, no question, but he doesn't strike me as having the metaphysical weight necessary. Even with MR 4, which is where I'm ballparking him for reference.
 
Probably not. Viserys is powerful, no question, but he doesn't strike me as having the metaphysical weight necessary. Even with MR 4, which is where I'm ballparking him for reference.
Don't forget those Fomor he's killing should get him some EXP, and then there's the metaphysical weight, from being the guy who singlehandedly dragged the Fomor to the diplomacy table, all in all, what he has already done, should have him a significant chunk of the way to yet another Mythic Rank.

The situation in Dresden, is just about perfect for him to grow further in power.
 
All these omakes has me wondering how Viserys would do in other fantasy settings in general in the multiverse.

Warhammer Fantasy, Dragonlance, Discworld, Dragon Age, Warcraft, actual DnD, Wheel of Time, Lord of the Rings, Witcher, Elder Scrolls, etc.

Anyone have any thoughts? After all all these worlds are different in general despite being same genre.
 
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All these omakes has me wondering how Viserys would do in other fantasy settings in general in the multiverse.

Warhammer Fantasy, Dragonlance, Discworld, Dragon Age, Warcraft, actual DnD, Wheel of Time, Lord of the Rings, etc.

Anyone have any thoughts? After all all these worlds are different in general despite being same genre.

Stop. Giving me. Ideas.

Please.
 
Viserys and the first templar stupid enough to smite him... yes, please.:lol
On the one hand Viserys would understand Dragon Age policy to train mages since kinda like WH they are at risk of being possessed by demons and blood magic is near universally awful, also he would not like Tevinter Imperium much at all due to culture, but at the same time Chantry and Templars also stupid since they give reason for mages not to hold back even when most are likely good people.

Dragon Age does a good job being a grey setting but Viserys would obviously want to fix things if able.
 
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