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A Sword Without a Hilt: A Song of Ice and Fire/D&D 3.5 Crossover

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DragonParadox said:
  1. She is but Rhaella is not a miracle worker.
  2. Well a lot of it is just cultural works, plays poems philosophical treatises, but there is also a lot of information on practical subjects, both mundane and arcane: things like architecture and ship-building along side seminal works in transmutation and presumably other fields of magic.
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1. I guess we'll just have to talk to her. It'd be very unfortunate if the effort that went into getting her amounted to nothing.
2. Soooo... I don't suppose there are accurate maps of lootable locations in Valyria? Also, anything about Valyrian Wingships?
 
TalonofAnathrax said:
[X] Accept Teana's idea, mages are already hated and misunderstood quite enough, best not make that distrust even worse

This is amazing. Everything I wanted. I love it!
Next month we should start setting up batteries of minor mages casting some of these spells at various enemies for us (Divination!). @DragonParadox, could that lead to improved rumor posts? Or some intelligence on enemy plans before they happen? It would be super cool to intercept an enemy plan caught due to divination.

And will we be getting some rumor posts for the end of the month? It's been a while since the last ones. We have decent intel from all around the world thanks to our trading companies AND extraplanar links, now!


Sounds like a great plan. I love it. What could go wrong?

In any case that sword is already a good method of mulching souls in an emergency without having to go to Yss. If we don't give it to Glyra we should keep it in our cloak.
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Defiantly for the rumor posts but not catching plots. You still need to ask just the right question and remember rituals cost money to cast and that adds up if you are just trying to brute force divination.
 
TotallyNotEvil said:
I mean that a normal cannon wouldn't perfectly hit a ship, a much much easier target than a large/huge flying creature. And if it was just a matter of rolling a ranged touch attack, th
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Yeah. At longer ranges.

Within the first range-increment, it would always hit. Battleship combat is usually fought at a distance of kilometres for Post-Jutland designs.
 
Duesal said:
1. I guess we'll just have to talk to her. It'd be very unfortunate if the effort that went into getting her amounted to nothing.
2. Soooo... I don't suppose there are accurate maps of lootable locations in Valyria? Also, anything about Valyrian Wingships?
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Introduce her to our relative, that undead priest of Syrax?
 
TotallyNotEvil said:
Unless we restrict access, and we can do it through monopolizing the production of the necessary herbs to drive up the price and then concede grants to notable people, it should become a relatively normal thing for a big, big slice of the population to keep reincarnating.
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And is that a problem?
If we've fixed inheritance issues and stopped immortals from distorting economy and society, the existence of a class of rich immortals isn't that much of a problem. Especially if each time they Reincarnate they have to pass their riches off to a heir.
Now I would hate to be poor in such a society, but people IRL tolerate some pretty crazy levels of inequality anyway. As long as people have some hope of reaching this immortality somehow (there must be some social mobility)and they aren't straight-up dying of hunger, well... Why not?

And yes, I am in favor of making Reincarnate very expensive to get components for.
I doubt we can get a full monopoly (these herbs are probably used in a bunch of other magic spells/magic items creation that we don't want to ban) but we should be able to drive the price up. And I'm expecting massive labor costs to have the spell cast for you, too.
 
DragonParadox said:
assuming she does not commit suicide. You could just ask her.
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I feel like this should concern me a lot more than it does.

Hm.

Well hopefully she divines what afterlife her kids ended up in, as well as her own alignment.

Her just going to hell after all the trouble of freeing her kids souls would suck.

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Anything you want to add to teanas advertising campaign @Azel ? Also the cannons look good. And OP. Bit in a good way?
 
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Loinvoyant said:
[X] Reject Teana's idea, the charlatans will weed themselves out in time
Let the magic remain mysterious, arcane, wonderous.
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No.
That goes against everything we have been doing and believing through this quest.


[X] Accept Teana's idea, mages are already hated and misunderstood quite enough, best not make that distrust even worse
-[X] Use the arena and your mirror-system once it's active for demonstrations
-[X] Have small pamphlets with the powers and limitations of Healing spells handed out by the Healers for any costumer or on request
-[X] Give more thorough infoarmation to big companies and temples and ask them to organize a yearly magic-info-day for their workers/worshippers
 
DragonParadox said:
Defiantly for the rumor posts but not catching plots. You still need to ask just the right question and remember rituals cost money to cast and that adds up if you are just trying to brute force divination.
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I'd like to have minions casting "will the realm suffer from X this week?" each week, for each major factions we oppose.
The question could be phrased better, but you get my drift. If the answer is "Yes", cast it again to be sure and then alert Companions/Inquisition to begin asking better aimed questions with Augury, Divination, and maybe even Commune.
 
I'm sure Dark Sister would love the upgrade to inflict true death on some souls.

[X] Artemis1992
 
Azel said:
I originally wanted to support this, but now I'm against it. We want that part of the state to fail in the long run, so leave it be for now so that we can get rid of it later.
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I don't to set it up to fail.

It's useful, and legitimizes our rule, and adds another layer of separation between us and the rest of the rulling class, which is great when it comes to controlling the masses.

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Having been inspired by Azel's proposal for Dark Sister upgrade, I made a shitty edit of an already existing image.
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A E S T H E T I C
 
Artemis1992 said:
No.
That goes against everything we have been doing and believing through this quest.


[X] Accept Teana's idea, mages are already hated and misunderstood quite enough, best not make that distrust even worse
-[X] Use the arena and your mirror-system once it's active for demonstrations
-[X] Have small pamphlets with the powers and limitations of Healing spells handed out by the Healers for any costumer or on request
-[X] Give more thorough infoarmation to big companies and temples and ask them to organize a yearly magic-info-day for their workers/worshippers
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That's what we have the Scholarum for: licenced mages bound by statute to deal fairly with non magicals and an overarching authority (under our command) policying them.
 
Azel said:
I see no reason why magical AC should count any more then physical. Mage Armor isn't a impenetrable force-field, just a breastplate.
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But if the shot just so happens to land on that breastplate-sized forcefield, it should be unable to penetrate it.

And that cover is translated as +4 AC, yeah?

The problem here is if this is meant to be a universal firearms rule or just one for artillery.

For example, PF uses Touch AC, but it means that it treats +5 adamantine plate the same way it treats a leather jerkin.

For example, a creature with NA 8 has about as much inherent toughness as someone wearing a good suit of plate and padding.

There's a set of armour called Supreme Harness or some such that offers +12 Armour bonus, and DP ruled that you'd need to be Huge to wear it. It's essentially wearing tank armour.
TalonofAnathrax said:
And is that a problem?
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The way I see it, there are too issues:
1) The Megacorp owners.
2) The population growth chart achieving orbit.

You can fix the first with economic policy, but the latter wil generate simply unfixeable issues if it's not curtailed.
Goldfish said:
It was just a starting suggestion, though I don't think it's a bad one. It's got good range, ignores SR, and even on a successful saving throw Entangles the target.
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Only on Medium or smaller targets, tho.
egoo said:
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I don't quite get what you mean with this comment :/
is it a praise, a joke, a reference ..?
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Praise. I really dig the looks.
 
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TalonofAnathrax said:
And is that a problem?
If we've fixed inheritance issues and stopped immortals from distorting economy and society, the existence of a class of rich immortals isn't that much of a problem. Especially if each time they Reincarnate they have to pass their riches off to a heir.
Now I would hate to be poor in such a society, but people IRL tolerate some pretty crazy levels of inequality anyway. As long as people have some hope of reaching this immortality somehow (there must be some social mobility)and they aren't straight-up dying of hunger, well... Why not?

And yes, I am in favor of making Reincarnate very expensive to get components for.
I doubt we can get a full monopoly (these herbs are probably used in a bunch of other magic spells/magic items creation that we don't want to ban) but we should be able to drive the price up. And I'm expecting massive labor costs to have the spell cast for you, too.
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I will oppose this even more than I will oppose banning reincarnate, having long life be a privilege of the rich, is worse than it not being a thing, if this is the alternative, I will vote for the anti reincarnation Weirwood.
 
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On this ritual issue: that was the whole point of the Scholarium and of certifying other magical institutions. That's the whole point of being recognized as a Mage, legally speaking.

The most important thing to make clear is just how to verify that isn't a charlattan, and asking for the right, easily-identifiable badge or certificate is far easier than recognizing the details of a literally arcane ritual.
 
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