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A Sword Without a Hilt: A Song of Ice and Fire/D&D 3.5 Crossover

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For those who are worried for Stannis don't be this fake Renly has the real ones memories and is designed to be the perfect Lord, he isn't going to deliberately harm his brother. And whether Stannis accepts this or not, well who cares? Not really our problem, and the real Renly did make a decision. Let the guy live out his life in peace.
 
Karmic Acumen said:
Actually, Heal and Restoration can heal insanity, right? So can a Wish. So technically, whoever goes apples and oranges can recover faster and with a lot fewer strings attached than someone who outright loses everything to the Feywild.

Magic muddles this argument quite a bit, I fear.
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Not quite. Irrevocably could mean that you could heal them and give them a fleeting instant of sanity, upon which they recall the veil of lies they'd been living under this whole time, driving them to even greater heights of insanity than before, or in the case of a wish, it could literally excise and scoop out those memories from their head and release them back into the Far Realm, where they belong, to facilitate the intent of the wish, which is to make them sane again and keep them so.

But the intent of that madness remains as it was. If you have knowledge of certain truths, you will be mad.
 
I hereby request that the fake Renly be referred to as the Renplacement from this point forward. :p
 
Crake said:
Not quite. Irrevocably could mean that you could heal them and give them a fleeting instant of sanity, upon which they recall the veil of lies they'd been living under this whole time, driving them to even greater heights of insanity than before, or in the case of a wish, it could literally excise and scoop out those memories from their head and release them back into the Far Realm, where they belong, to facilitate the intent of the wish, which is to make them sane again and keep them so.

But the intent of that madness remains as it was. If you have knowledge of certain truths, you will be mad.
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Or you could help people adjust to truths men was not meant to know.
After all as a Sorcerer and Dragon we already have a far higher tolerance for such things than Average Joe.
I'm sure there are ways to increase it further.

Even Alienists don't go fully mad, they just take a heavy hit to their Wisdom (and related Sanity), but that can be worked against by boosting Wisdom with other means. Just as one example.
 
If this is a wish fulfilled, then the faeRenly would be an ideal ruler. Who surely would value a territory without conflict.
I see this as an opportunity. Let's get Glyra powered up to be have her own court and then bring her when we are to diplomance the Stormlands on conquest. Her ability to best fae would be ideal for it.
That said, we still tell Stannis what happened and it's up to him to deal with it.

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No @Artemis1992 , don't touch the Feywilds hook !
 
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If we visit the Feywilds, it will be just to loot all the Pech.

And every kind of useful plant. Silver Bells are so awesome to have around...
 
Takesis said:
No @Artemis1992 , don't touch the Feywilds hook !
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No interest.

I'm perfectly willing to let the Feywild stay as it is. With what remains of Renly in it doing his thing. Unless he's really on the Material somewhere.

Still, weirdly enough Feywild is among the planes I don't want to visit without a very good reason.
I kinda like our story, don't want Viserys to get sucked up in a different one.
 
Somehow feels as though Viserys is more prone to amazement that for once... just once... he can sit back and watch the trainwreck unfold, for lack of any reasonable means of solving the problem.

There is no reasonable action you can take when the Fae are involved. Best to act in your own interest than conform to any kind of set standard of how you should behave, or else you're playing into their hands by following a preset narrative.
 
Azel said:
No need. We just need to tell Stannis the truth and offer to write the letter to Robert for him.

Then we watch the dominoes fall.


For once, there is no loosing scenario for us.
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Stormlands falling into chaos and civil war?

I mean, I don't care much, but it would be a bit sad to see the first bit of actually happy and relativly safe-seeming lands go up in flames by our action's consequences.

I'd prefer to stay out of it completly once we got Stannis out of our hands.
 
Did the Iron Bank agree to let Stannis take a loan out with them to pay his ransom? I can't recall.
 
We could convince stannis that letting them imposter rule for now is better than the alternative if he wants to look for the real Renly, we cant control what he does or says after we release him, but he should keep in mind that Renly did his best to ensure his lands would be in good hands before he left.
 
Goldfish said:
Did the Iron Bank agree to let Stannis take a loan out with them to pay his ransom? I can't recall.
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DragonParadox said:
Were Stannis another man you might consider the Braavosi offer of masking the true sum of the the debt and hence the ransom... of course were the Usurper's brother anything other than his damnably stiff-necked self you would be far less inclined to set him loose to rule over the ancestral seat of your house, ransom or no.

"Twelve-thousand marks is what I asked for," you explain. "Consider this merely an inquiry and a suggestion if one may be so bold as to offer such to the Iron Bank. Whatever his heritage lord Stannis is an honorable man."

"Too honorable, I see," the lady Uraka sniffs. "I will ensure that the inquiry for a loan is looked upon with favor."
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Evaunit02mark1 said:
There is one, Robert could do the sensible thing and then I've wasted all this popcorn.
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And the Renplacement will rally the bannermen to defend against the baseless accusations and invasions of his lands by the grasping hands of his eldest brother. Acting against him is paid for in the last shreds of trust and legitimacy Robert can call to his houses name.

Let him do it. Let us enjoy the view of our enemies being consumed in the fire they laid themselves.
 
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