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Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest

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It is my considered opinion that the Prismatic Wanderer's colour scheme ought to be 90s-era GW with bright, solid colours, like the White Dwarf 148 and 180 covers:
 
Looking at the tally, it might seem close, but that's before you cross-reference the combined votes of the Prismatic Wanderer and Prismatic Wanderer (research) options, which will probably come out to more like 15-20 ahead.
 
Lammen Gorthaur said:
Looking at the tally, it might seem close, but that's before you cross-reference the combined votes of the Prismatic Wanderer and Prismatic Wanderer (research) options, which will probably come out to more like 15-20 ahead.
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I mean, i'd personally love that tally since it's what i want, but really that's not necessarily fair, my understanding is "Prismatic wanderer (research)" is also getting approval votes from some research tower people who wouldn't necessarily want prismatic wanderer on it's own.
 
reignonyrparade said:
I mean, i'd personally love that tally since it's what i want, but really that's not necessarily fair, my understanding is "Prismatic wanderer (research)" is also getting approval votes from some research tower people who wouldn't necessarily want prismatic wanderer on it's own.
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Thankfully you can just merge the votes with the Tally feature to avoid the double count of just adding them up. This is what that looks like:
Adhoc vote count started by DragonParadox on Jan 30, 2025 at 12:34 AM, finished with 2004 posts and 251 votes.
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[x] Armor of von Tarnus

I like the idea of showing up in Bretonnia as both a damsel and a knight in shining armour. I want to see how the Bretonnians rationalise that anomaly to themselves.
 
[X] Plan Pickle Requests mk IV
[X] Plan Not Pickle Requests Variant with Apparitions
[X] Support in dispatching Battle Wizards to one major conflict of Mathilde's choice

[X] Armor of von Tarnus
Will add some additional plans to my vote.
 
Boney said:
Vashanesh, Melkhior, and Walach planted their accursed bloodlines on our soil, we have no desire to add another to the list
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To talk about something else for a second, i was not aware that Abhorash was obscure enough that progenitor of Blood Dragon bloodline is considered one of his get instead of himself.
 
pucflek said:
To talk about something else for a second, i was not aware that Abhorash was obscure enough that progenitor of Blood Dragon bloodline is considered one of his get instead of himself.
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Abhorash is the founder of the bloodline, but Walach turned the Order of the Blood Dragon and created the concept of the Blood Knight as the Empire knows it. Similar deal to Melkhior getting credited instead of W'soran.
 
SuperSonicSound said:
6+ armour saves in tt generally includes a breastplate, but you're right it would not be full plate.
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I'm not sure there's any real consistency in light armor on tabletop. Bretonnian Men-at-Arms have it the same as State Troops and High Elf Spearmen, despite the latter looking substantially more armored.

Also, technically speaking most Bretonnian knights aren't using full plate.
 
As an aside, did anyone bother collating the names of the Grey Lords? I dunno if we are up to 12 yet.

Elrithish,Hatalath,Sarumar,Seilph, Skathrai, Yngra,Sarriel, Mal and Turuquar

Then three unknown ones that may or may not be included in these names
Marrisith's Uncle (I think its Harathi, not sure its grey lord?),Lords Thanan(2). If they are not included that would make 9 i think.

EDIT: Okay so if Harathi is a Grey Lord and we don't know Lords Thanan, that might be all of them.
 
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pucflek said:
As an aside, did anyone bother collating the names of the Grey Lords? I dunno if we are up to 12 yet.

Elrithish,Hatalath,Sarumar,Seilph, Skathrai, Yngra,Sarriel, Mal and Turuquar

Then three unknown ones that may or may not be included in these names
Marrisith's Uncle,Lords Thanan(2). If they are not included that would make 9 i think.
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Stormysky wrote a list that I believe is still up to date. It includes the names you listed, the Thanans, and Marrisith's uncle (which was named at the Druchii cocktail party, his name is Harathi):
StormySky said:
Codex used to, but that's out of date to November 2022, almost a year ago. Assuming she caught everything before then, from a comb of what came after, we have:

Hatalath: Grey Lord participant in Waystone project. Sometimes called the Wanderer, being more comfortable going out and about than his peers, but still out of date about things due to being too absorbed in research, just presumably less so than his peers.

Thanan brothers: A pair of brothers

Sarumar: Told Hatalath about the Dwarves messing with their Waystone network

Harathi: Marrisith's great-great-uncle. Son of Morelion (first son of Aenarion), (presumably younger) brother to Maruviel (first queen of Laurelorn and handmaiden to the Everqueen Yvraine, who was also her aunt). Got exiled after the Sundering because of his heritage and because he was a teenager with no political power or allies at the time. Still salty about the whole thing. Marrisith doesn't like dealing with him

Turuquar: Metallurgist who got banished after his obsession with the origins of ithilmar led to him repeatedly trying to sneak into Vaul's Anvil. Also worked on an impractical golden dome for the capstone replacement

Mal: Worked on impractical capstone replacement with Turuquar. Wouldn't be dissuaded despite it not working well

Elrithish: Worked on the Stone Flower with Seilph. Later recreated magic storage mechanism for Waystone foundation with Hatalath, though in a more awkward fashion than the original creators presumably used.

Seilph: Worked on the Stone Flower with Elrithish

Skathrai: Worked with Yngra on Waystone foundation orbital mechanism. Has a history of creating things for military use, and understands the need to keep things simple for mass production. More willing to work on dryad-binding than Eonir are comfortable with (considering how dryads are citizens and allies of Laurelorn)

Yngra: Worked with Skathrai on Waystone foundation orbital mechanism. Has a history of creating things for military use, and understands the need to keep things simple for mass production.

???: The twelfth Grey Lord, who we still haven't heard about. This is assuming that neither of the Thanan brothers are also one of the other names mentioned, since we have no clue what's a first or last name.
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It's possible that the last one is Sarriel, a figure which in canon is said to be an Enoir God but was mentioned in quest seemingly as one of the Grey Lords, when Eltharion asked if Mathilde spoke with them:
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The Grey Lord contributions make him quiet and thoughtful, and he seems disappointed to hear that you've had very little dealings with most of them. When he asks about a Lord Sarriel you're forced to admit you've not heard the name until now, and he drops the line of inquiry.
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I later asked about that when we got our Eonir God books and the result were inconclusive.
Boney said:
Sarriel is sometimes referred to in Eonir writings as a Minor God, sometimes as a Major Spirit, and sometimes as a Grey Lord. Mathilde is 100% certain if she asks about the contradiction, every Elf within earshot will smugly say that there is no contradiction.
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Sarriel may or may not be a Grey Lord, though I think it's likely that someone called Sarriel was a Grey Lord at some point.
 
mathymancer said:
Stormysky wrote a list that I believe is still up to date. It includes the names you listed, the Thanans, and Marrisith's uncle (which was named at the Druchii cocktail party, his name is Harathi):

It's possible that the last one is Sarriel, a figure which in canon is said to be an Enoir God but was mentioned in quest seemingly as one of the Grey Lords, when Eltharion asked if Mathilde spoke with them:

I later asked about that when we got our Eonir God books and the result were inconclusive.

Sarriel may or may not be a Grey Lord, though I think it's likely that someone called Sarriel was a Grey Lord at some point.
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Thanks, i actually managed to hunt them down in the meanwhile and yeah. If lords Thanan are separate from all the ones actually named, then Sarriel is the missing one and we have everyones name.

EDIT: Actually, Hatalath still said that there is 12 of them. Maybe Sariel became one with the forest as part of the bargain/ritual that lets them dominate Laurelorn dreaming wood so hard? It would explain... pretty much everything to be honest.
 
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