It has been a wild ride, and I am glad to have been a part of it. I wonder if @prometheus110 will resume one of his inactive quests?
The Lords of Ruin -- Battletech/Killzone
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prometheus110
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Yes, but it'll be started a couple more quests down the line.
Not for awhile, and it's probably be a second attempt starting from the beginning.
Started reading this almost a year ago and I'm glad to have sticked with it continuously, absolutely peak Quest and I'm excited for the sequel even if it's for the far future. @prometheus110 stand proud, you cooked.
Others have already said it, but it bears repeating: This was a great quest.
I know the quest had to end (there's nothing more enfuriating than an unfinished story), though, the epilogue just made me anxious for the sequel.
I know the quest had to end (there's nothing more enfuriating than an unfinished story), though, the epilogue just made me anxious for the sequel.
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Omega-Chris
The Friendly Ghost
And so this quest comes to a end and what a great experience it was. @prometheus110 like others have said you did a amazing job with this quest. I have this quest to thank for making me a Battletech fan and actually going out to buy and paint the miniatures.
Now for fun I am going to speculate on some of the actions we should take come the sequel in a couple years.
First we should set a bureau to handle the Clan POW integration into the Helghan Republic. Like there was mention of potential animosity forming from the POW if we didn't do that so yea that should be done as soon as possible.
As for major sequel Flashpoints a renewed struggle against the Fedsuns seems almost inevitable. With both them and the Capellans getting a good dose of Revanchism there likely is going to be a clash. To make sure we don't get any surprises when that inevitable clash happens I say we make friends with the FWL so the Feds can't potentially trigger a conflict on two fronts against 2 Successor states.
Finally since out of context problems where mentioned I think we should keep a open mind to another crossover being added to the pile to spice things up. Honestly it would be hilarious if it turns out to be Mass Effect and we have to worry about the freaking Reapers invading in a couple decades.
Any way stay tuned because I have more commissioned art on the way along with a potential Omake about how Jaiden and cobalt star got captured by Helghan forces fighting in operation Santiago.
Now for fun I am going to speculate on some of the actions we should take come the sequel in a couple years.
First we should set a bureau to handle the Clan POW integration into the Helghan Republic. Like there was mention of potential animosity forming from the POW if we didn't do that so yea that should be done as soon as possible.
As for major sequel Flashpoints a renewed struggle against the Fedsuns seems almost inevitable. With both them and the Capellans getting a good dose of Revanchism there likely is going to be a clash. To make sure we don't get any surprises when that inevitable clash happens I say we make friends with the FWL so the Feds can't potentially trigger a conflict on two fronts against 2 Successor states.
Finally since out of context problems where mentioned I think we should keep a open mind to another crossover being added to the pile to spice things up. Honestly it would be hilarious if it turns out to be Mass Effect and we have to worry about the freaking Reapers invading in a couple decades.
Any way stay tuned because I have more commissioned art on the way along with a potential Omake about how Jaiden and cobalt star got captured by Helghan forces fighting in operation Santiago.
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0t4n1z3r019
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I remember seeing this for the first time (and then forgot to participate) and then participated during the last parts of the war against the FedSuns up until this point.
This is a truly great quest! I hope to see more from you, my good sir.
This is a truly great quest! I hope to see more from you, my good sir.
If old Pro is planning on a sequel, I think the Clan POW would either be a long-term issue or a major sticking point right from the start and be an issue that we'll likely finish first before anything else.
As for flashpoints, the FedSuns are definitely going to be the number one cause, with the Taurans and Capellans beefing with the rapidly right-leaning FedSus and I see it unlikely to establish any cementing relationship with the FWL with the Capellans on ORDI.
As for OOC Problems, I hope that we see other franchises crossover, both within a Meta and in-universe reaction.
Drunk Hierophant
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One of the simplest settings to integrate into BT's universe would be Mass Effect given how sparsely populated that galaxy is although I find the idea funny of an Asgard ship popping up to see how the Tau'ri are doing after a milenia of not checking on them to find the (now a little bit les of a) clusterfuck that is the Inner Sphere.
Cataphract
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I'm glad I was here to watch this quest as it went. Bravo, Prometheus! Thank you for all the fun.
… time to reread it.
… time to reread it.
Imagine ORDI's reaction to the Citadel. Their whole goverment structure is based on species being represented in the Citadel Council and denying representation to species in the Citadel Council, thus creating second and first class citizens. ORDI just finished fighting against a caste society from the deep periphery, and now they discover a new caste society in the even deeper periphery.
0t4n1z3r019
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Clans: Deep Periphery
Citadel Council and the associated species included: Deep, Deep Periphery.
Helghan Astronomer: Should that be the Deeper Periphery?
Another Helghan Astronomer: Semantics, Pavel! Semantics!
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It's even better, the Citadel is a caste society formed by an oligarchy with a fake mustache on, a police state monarchy/oligarchy and a military pretending to be a full state.
And then there's the slavers.
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0t4n1z3r019
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Them slavers are begging for an Irradiated Petrusite beam to their faces.
In OTL, various Precentors gathered all the intel that Comstar was actively sharing with the Clans (Because remember, Comstar was doing more than just turning off the phones at strangely coincidental times. They were also sharing troop deployments/dispositions/even TO&Es when possible and actively collaborating in the administration of Clan held worlds). No amount of begging will restore their lost political goodwill. In-universe that sort of thing should not have been wiped away by Tukayyid because then it's less "we're stepping up to defend the inner sphere" and more "We're covering our asses because it turns out Comstar itself going to be in actual danger and not just the dirty non-Terrans."
The Spartan Agoge was a system of brutal torture, beatings, starvation, rape, and ritualized murder of slaves and other Spartans. It was fairly identical to the systems used by modern warlords to 'train' child soldiers. It was never meant to train soldiers, but to ensure that male Spartans were indoctrinated into buying into the Spartan system. As a result, the Spartan citizenry inflicted child soldier PTSD on their entire citizen class, destroying their ability to mentally function outside of the Spartan system. Sparta won less than half of the battles it engaged in, and most of their victories can be chalked up to the Spartans being better fed and to a quirk of Greek warfare that places one side's best troops against the other side's weakest.
Why am I talking about that? I'm glad you're portraying the Clan warrior training as the fucked up waste of human potential rotting in a state-wide open grave.
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How many and what kind? Will they be set in Lords of Ruin?
Omega-Chris
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In this timeline it was far less then that. The Comstar agents assigned to assist the Clans in this timeline were particularly vague and unhelpful while gathering information on the Clans internal structure and tactics. So I can totally see Comstar spinning assisting the Clans into "we where playing double agent to gather as much information on them as we could to give them that dramatic defeat at Lyndon". This could result in the Innersphere's outlook on Comstar being radically different then canon. The WoB on the other hand will likely be seen as cowards as they just declared neutrality and sat on the sidelines (though they may also have been assisting the Clans with governing conquered worlds).
Honestly I wonder what the long term ramifications will be for Comstar being hailed as saviors.
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prometheus110
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As many as I feel like. They'd be character focused quests rather than nation-state ones, and unlikely to be set in the LOR universe. That said, I have toyed around with the idea, so never say never.
Wasn't that Myndo's doing? The upper echelons of ComStar are rotten to the core, but I seem to remember that Myndo (and her patsies) were the only ones stupid enough to think that supporting the Clans would be a good idea. In this timeline, Myndo's faction seceded from ComStar and created the Word of Blake, thus purging all the stupid from ComStar in one fell swoop.
We now have a semi-competent cargo cult in charge of the telephone company and a semi-stupid cargo cult in charge of the other telephone company. I, honestly, don't know which is worse.
We now have a semi-competent cargo cult in charge of the telephone company and a semi-stupid cargo cult in charge of the other telephone company. I, honestly, don't know which is worse.
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ya know one of the kick offs for a war between the ORDI and the Fed Suns is some info that I noticed in the updates that looked like maybe possibly that Melissa and Morgan where setting up the ground work to try again with the FedCom alliance.
But yeah Naval fleets are going to be built up to maximum to deal with the clans and I'm thinking research will be to maximize defense and offense for all involved.
But yeah Naval fleets are going to be built up to maximum to deal with the clans and I'm thinking research will be to maximize defense and offense for all involved.
@prometheus110 this has been a delight to read so thank you.
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Sure, but you may be confusing canon and this quest, when given the state of the clan invasion here it's obvious things have gone off the rails. In canon, ComStar actively hindered responses to the clan invasion and tried to prevent coordination while hiding the existence of the clans. Here, ComStar played a leading role in organizing the Inner Sphere response and hiring their services out to combatant powers like us. ComStar released a comprehensive briefing package about the clans before they even hit major Inner Sphere military units, and was active in announcing clan atrocities far and wide. Heck, on the discord prom confirmed that the only thing preventing an earlier ComGuard intervention was the need to rearm troops after the budget crunch caused by competition with the Word of Blake and the Warp Communications Consortium. Almost all of ComStar's actions here can at most be construed as maintaining their neutrality, a neutrality that was deeply slanted in favour of the Inner Sphere.
It surprises me that the quest is ending and people are basically still assuming everything is on the same rails as canon, even when almost every point you directly raised above is rendered irrelevant by the direct text of the updates. Tukayyid wasn't even the site of the battle here!
I'm not so certain about that; there's at most, some groundwork laid for friendlier relations, but that's not a FedCom alliance. Plus, hopefully the Lyrans recognize that friendly relations with the Outer Rim Defense Initiative and the Federated Suns simultaneously is better than a formal alliance with the FedSuns and a cirresponding complete freezing of ties with ORDI.
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I know that, but the intent was to raise the points in order to contrast what happened in this quest and what happened in OTL.
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Would I straight up champion sending the cavlary to kick Clanner ass if they showed up at Ark Royal again? With fucking bells on.
And if I was Melissa, I would make sure to court that kind of attitude in ORDI and not specifically alienate them. Even when they decided not to share Feddie goodies, we still showed up to the punch up, flattened an entire Clan into the dirt, and sucker punched the strongest one who was carving a bloody furrow toward their core territories.
And that was with the war being, if not unpopular, relatively contentious back home.
Real question is more are we gonna do something in the sequel to make the feds look like the better horse to bet on? It would not be the first time we've shot ourselves in the foot.
And if I was Melissa, I would make sure to court that kind of attitude in ORDI and not specifically alienate them. Even when they decided not to share Feddie goodies, we still showed up to the punch up, flattened an entire Clan into the dirt, and sucker punched the strongest one who was carving a bloody furrow toward their core territories.
And that was with the war being, if not unpopular, relatively contentious back home.
Real question is more are we gonna do something in the sequel to make the feds look like the better horse to bet on? It would not be the first time we've shot ourselves in the foot.
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Stylized Map of the Lords of Ruin Innersphere Circa, 3051
Omega-Chris
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Stylized Map of the Lords of Ruin Innersphere Circa, 3051
AN: Just because I felt like it I created a stylized map of how the Innersphere looks at the end of this quest.
Edit: I updated the map with a new logo. Credit to Lazurez on DeviantArt for allowing me to use his Tikonov Free Republic logo.
AN: Just because I felt like it I created a stylized map of how the Innersphere looks at the end of this quest.
Edit: I updated the map with a new logo. Credit to Lazurez on DeviantArt for allowing me to use his Tikonov Free Republic logo.
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