Roth963
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Almost definitely, we are not idiots and it had been decades.
Distant Stars. (a WH40K/Xianxia civ Quest).
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Roth963
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With the revelation of this being Warhammer, a bunch of things should be kept in mind, first being that the pyramid likely belong to necrons, I don't know if it is a crashed ship, but entirely possible we are on a tomb world.
Second being that we don't know where we are right now, we speculated about the tau being the friendly polity, but depends on the timeline, entirely possible that we are at any point in time.
I wouldn't be surprised if humanity still going around in the dark age of technology and the eye of terror didn't open yet, we encountered a mot of slannashi energy, but that thing had been going around long before slannash was fully born, getting information on the other lords could help us pin down the date, slannash as a chaos God existed before she was born after all, entirely possible the apocalypse start when the eye of terror opens, with the long night.
I think the chaos gods are afraid of us for one major reason, cultivation is bad for them, unlike psykers, the stability of cultivation make it harder to influence psykers, imagine if the art spread and the imperium got it, it could easily mean that the vast majority of imperial psychics transform from unstable bombs into dangerous adversaries.
@uri , after experiencing the way a tribulation refined our qi, is it theoretically possible to do the process ourselves as we grow stronger, make energy similar to tribulation one to power up our insights for example, basically artificial tempering tribulation.
[X] Pay restitution for his followers- pay 2 divine Qi charges, unlock the mercenary board and convert Okertaku followers to your faith.
Second being that we don't know where we are right now, we speculated about the tau being the friendly polity, but depends on the timeline, entirely possible that we are at any point in time.
I wouldn't be surprised if humanity still going around in the dark age of technology and the eye of terror didn't open yet, we encountered a mot of slannashi energy, but that thing had been going around long before slannash was fully born, getting information on the other lords could help us pin down the date, slannash as a chaos God existed before she was born after all, entirely possible the apocalypse start when the eye of terror opens, with the long night.
I think the chaos gods are afraid of us for one major reason, cultivation is bad for them, unlike psykers, the stability of cultivation make it harder to influence psykers, imagine if the art spread and the imperium got it, it could easily mean that the vast majority of imperial psychics transform from unstable bombs into dangerous adversaries.
@uri , after experiencing the way a tribulation refined our qi, is it theoretically possible to do the process ourselves as we grow stronger, make energy similar to tribulation one to power up our insights for example, basically artificial tempering tribulation.
[X] Pay restitution for his followers- pay 2 divine Qi charges, unlock the mercenary board and convert Okertaku followers to your faith.
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Warhammer -inspired, at least.
For all we know there's a humanity. Maybe there isn't one.
We could be in 40k, or we could be in a previous era.
Maybe the necrons don't yet exist. I don't quite remember what their original name and race was, but we might be in their time.
Let's not make the mistake of assuming too much.
And yeah, it might not be the Tau. It's just the only one that came to mind, and I'm not a 40k expert. Most of what I know is from what I e read on some wiki articles, for the most part.
For all we know psykers are not a thing here.
That said... I had a thought.
I remember reading that the Warp wasn't always "evil". That it was less dangerous once.
When and why did that change? Maybe the apocalypse has nothing to do with the Keku but is triggered by that transition?
And about the artificial tribulation energy... My guess is that maybe we could do something like that for lower steps, eventually.
Use great amounts of our QI to replicate the event.
But the way I see it It would take the emperor to maybe replicate that event for a second step.
To create ones such Tribulation for the emperor... Either a collective effort from maaaaany cultivators, or use divine QI for it (and we'd need more divine QI lore before)
For all we know there's a humanity. Maybe there isn't one.
We could be in 40k, or we could be in a previous era.
Maybe the necrons don't yet exist. I don't quite remember what their original name and race was, but we might be in their time.
Let's not make the mistake of assuming too much.
And yeah, it might not be the Tau. It's just the only one that came to mind, and I'm not a 40k expert. Most of what I know is from what I e read on some wiki articles, for the most part.
For all we know psykers are not a thing here.
That said... I had a thought.
I remember reading that the Warp wasn't always "evil". That it was less dangerous once.
When and why did that change? Maybe the apocalypse has nothing to do with the Keku but is triggered by that transition?
And about the artificial tribulation energy... My guess is that maybe we could do something like that for lower steps, eventually.
Use great amounts of our QI to replicate the event.
But the way I see it It would take the emperor to maybe replicate that event for a second step.
To create ones such Tribulation for the emperor... Either a collective effort from maaaaany cultivators, or use divine QI for it (and we'd need more divine QI lore before)
Not just psykers, anyone that has a soul can cultivate, your psyker grade is just your talent.
And that's the big thing, in theory anyone could reach the 9th step and possess the power equal to an A+ psyker (at minimum).
There are a few different way to call down a tempering tribulating one of them is alchemy.
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Wait a second... If psykers are still a thing in the universe, this changes things considerably.
I don't want to sell our cultivation method because it's giving up an advantage... But making psykers more stable across the universe by letting this god share the knowledge with other races means directly ruining things for the chaos demons!
I'm starting to reconsider selling our method here
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I think it's worth it
[X] Teach him your path- spread the practice of cultivation beyond your plant, in return unlock the mercenary board with 50 divine Qi worth of tokens and 20% discounted prices.
[X] Teach him your path- spread the practice of cultivation beyond your plant, in return unlock the mercenary board with 50 divine Qi worth of tokens and 20% discounted prices.
Roth963
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What grade of psyker would we be if we weren't cultivators?
But the chaos gods aren't our only enemies, you don't just weaken them, you empower everyone else, and threatening to release the method could always be a card we can pull on them in an attempt to make them back off.
Not permanently no but it'll take it like twice as long to reform.
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Technically we only empower the ones this god shares things with.
Problem is... Who is this the god of?
Is he also a god of Orks? Of the Tau? Necrons? Eldar? Other races I'm forgetting?
Chaos is, if I remember right, the third most dangerous threat (with Necrons and Orks being worse, mostly because I remember it being implied that the Orks might have colomized most of the "uncivilised/unknow" universe, so a unified Waaaagh would be potentially the worst threat imaginable), and second most evil (I vaguely remember the Necron being worse) Correct me if I'm wrong
Can I get an example of what A+ psykers can do?
Sidenote, I once asked if there was any proof of supernatural stuff in the world before, and you said no. So we're we the first Keku with psyker potential?
No but most of them either blew themselves up, were low enough level that they either didn't realize or influence much or it just wasn't recorded.
It honestly would be easier to give an example of something they can't do.
But this is the level where you can utter a single word and mind control millions to kill one another, where you could burn a world to ash in an hour and where you can create psychic shields that would survive the full attention of a void fleet for at least a while.
Its "fuck you" level of power.
Roth963
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That's the grade of people like the emperor, Magnus and malcador, meaning they can destroy world, mind control them, teleport them, bring back the dead on a massive scale, stop time and all sorts of similar goodies.
Usually they are incredibly unstable.
Chaos are the most evil and one of the greatest threats.
The necrons are the greatest, they are basically soulless undead mechanical skeletons, but if the place of power was created by them, maybe they never got their soul sucked by the star gods and became undead.
They are not really evil, but they are genocidal, and they got the most advanced tech, as in humans can't even understand their technology with thousands of years of research.
The Tyranids were likely attracted by the astronomic on, a giant galactic scaled psychic beacon empowered by the emperor, who is fed thousands of psykers a day to keep him on life support, they are basically adaptable space locust, genocidal, but emotionless as far as we see.
Dark Eldar aren't a major threat on the galactic scaled, they basically got a star system sized city in an alternative dimension, they need to feed on pain to live, and they enjoy it, doing fate's worst than death regularly and engaging in pirate raids to kidnap entire worlds as victims for pleasure and food.
Orks could be extremely dangerous, a biological weapons that can grow incredibly quickly if it has time to ramp up, currently Orks might be the most widespread species in the galaxy, but they are not united, of course, by 40k, a super ork attempting to unit them is rising, and if he did their evolution will accelerate.
Chaos are mostly empowered by their victims, chaos have no true power by itself, they were basically powerless as far as any big power was concerned before the fall of the Eldar.
After the Eldar fell (splitting into multiple relatively minor but still very advanced factions), the heart of their empire was ripped apart by the birth of slannashi, a god they inadvertently brought into existence by their hedonism and decadence.
They basically murdered fucked each other while worshipping a pleasure cult until reality broke, this created the eye of terror, a massive place in space where reality and the warp are one.
Likewise, chaos gods were empowered all over the galaxy, they corrupted psykers, which led to the birth of cults and the summoning of demons, they used the eye of terror as a massive base for their followers and they all around screwed with everyone.
They are very much powered by their victims, our own demonic cults is a good example of their metrology.
They became a solid faction only after the heresy, mostly compiled of humans.
If cultivator power spread, it will rob them of their easiest method to tap the material world, psykers, while also empowering many powerful enemies.
Without enemies to call them into the material world, they are significantly weakened, and the stronger defences could much more easily stomp the cells who do pop up.
Cultivator powers are horrible for them, because it empowers everyone but them, unstable psykers are good for them, because they don't have any problems with corruption and such, you are basically grabbing a big chunk of their own power, and gift it to the mortal races.
This is a massive threat, if they know that should the tide be turned against us, the information will be released, they will need to be much more careful when attempting to get rid of us.
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And yet it's not quite godhood... It's interesting. Are you implying everyone could reach the 9th step, BUT there's a 10th step not everyone could reach? Or is the 9th step the last one, but it's still not quite beyond a void fleet's ability to counter?
Then again, 40k tech can get pretty crazy, and at the highest levels does interact with the Warp too... So I suppose all you're saying is simply that it IS possible to manipulate what we call QI with technology, it just requires far better tech than we have.
Have you already decided what level of tech it would take to reach imperium, eldar and so on tier? I think I estimated contemporary to near future tech to be around 11 or 12, so I imagine stuff like imperium's to be between... I don't know, 15 to 20, depending if we're looking at their worst or best stuff
I mostly gave that example so there would be a defensive one but if there was a fight you wont just stand there and take it and at that level there are various ways that can easily destroy a fleet.
This is actually one of the first thing I did, the Eldar are 30+ the Necrons are on 39 and are the highest that currently exist in the galaxy, the old ones had knowledge and expertise equivalent to 43.
The best stuff in the imperium can go up to 25 while the worst can be level 2 (if not 0, hello wild words) but anything that comes up beyond specificplanets is at least 13.
Keep in mind that advancing your tech level gets harder every 10 tech levels by 10X so going form 10 to 11 would cost 440 advancement points, while going from 20 to 21 would cost 8,800 and so on.
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Very interesting.
Can I assume then that contemporary or near future tech would be 10, then? It makes sense to make the first threshold be current real world tech.
I suppose we now have a goal to strive for in tech terms. 10 for now. I imagine stuff like the internet and universal uni-tier schooling will also massively improve point gain there.
Once we're at tech tier 10 we can basically take some time to prioritize the economy over education, to really establish a strong base from which to then go back to strong education focus.
Tech 10 is start of the space age, it's the point where you can reliably build spaceships that can last, can viably colonize other plants in your soler system and get your first FTL/wrap drive.
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Uh.
There's a larger leap between tech levels than I thought.
That makes sense. We'd kind of need to become multiplanetary to get the kind of tech progress necessary to surpass the 10x coat jump.
In that case I'm guessing tech 6 is up to ww2 tech, tech 7 is up to the 90s, tech 8 is basically up to a few years ago and modern days would be the start of tech 9.
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What about DAoT humanity? Considering how much lore the Eldar lost during the Fall, I'd expect DAoT to stack up to their post-fall state.
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[x] Pay restitution for his followers- pay 2 divine Qi charges, unlock the mercenary board and convert Okertaku followers to your faith.
No to giving our greatest strength to a god of tyranny. We need help badly, so the amount of empowering him we will do to buy things from the mercenary board is barely justifiable.
I'm surprised it took others this long to realize this was 40k. The obviously Necron monolith combined with obviously Tzeentch and Khorne really gave it away. I think the descriptions of the possible apocalypses also track pretty well to 40k things.
No to giving our greatest strength to a god of tyranny. We need help badly, so the amount of empowering him we will do to buy things from the mercenary board is barely justifiable.
I'm surprised it took others this long to realize this was 40k. The obviously Necron monolith combined with obviously Tzeentch and Khorne really gave it away. I think the descriptions of the possible apocalypses also track pretty well to 40k things.
[x] Pay restitution for his followers- pay 2 divine Qi charges, unlock the mercenary board and convert Okertaku followers to your faith.
DAoT humanity probably falls somewhere between 30- to 33 depending.
Well it was very fun trying to subtly put in some hints about this but even I'll admit that some of them where a little less stubble then others. Although there were a few who suspected I just waited for a more confidant and wide response before conforming it.