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[x] Plan Simple and Functional
- [x] [CAPSTONE] Stone Flower (simple)
- [x] [RUNE] Dwarven (simple)
- [x] [STORAGE] [Moderate] Runed (simple)
- [x] [FOUNDATION] Grey Lord (moderately difficult)
- [x] [TRANSMISSION] Leyline (simple)
 
The elves on this side of the sea figured out how to make a capstone, storage, and a foundation in just one year. There is little reason to assume the elves on the other side can't do the same.
They did that while being poked by Mathilde, to be fair. We're like if a dog had a PhD; this development was done in dog years.

Our capacity to potentially stop breathing from old age at any moment brings a delightful urgency to the proceedings.
 
The elves on this side of the sea figured out how to make a capstone, storage, and a foundation in just one year. There is little reason to assume the elves on the other side can't do the same.

Hatalath also made the Waystone Rune component:

'Easily' turns into 'hmm' turns into 'interesting' turns into months passing before Hatalath emerges once more, hauling a series of scale models made of varying materials. You're barely able to delay his expounding for long enough for everyone else to reconvene. "By itself, it just adds a little downwards turbulence to the ambient Winds," he says, pointing at the first, all-stone model. "It's a very minor effect for magical runes, but it's simple enough that it could be done by any competent stoneworker with a grasp of basic magical theory."

The only thing they couldn't reproduce themselves was the Leyline transmission mechanism, because the Grey Lords weren't trusted with the passphrases.
 
A Ballad of Trees and Wind: Queen Of Laurelorn Nega-Quest
Haha, on the Eonir timescale maybe Mathilde would be just about starting to get some invitations to the parties where people can get in touch with each other for future deal making.

A Ballad of Trees and Wind: Queen Of Laurelorn Nega-Quest

Here is my attempt at that. Very bare bones updates unfortunatly, it is quite late for me. Still hope you guys enjoy, this is a lot more upbeat than the Boris one so I could to the Alt!SV accounts thing.

Parabolic said:
So now that we did the Middleland Gambit, finally after ten turns, I think we should start working on prepping the Houses on the notion that maybe we need to solve the tree thing.
ParadoxDragon said:
Solve the tree thing? Now? We are barely balancing things as they are, we are one lost vote away from going isolationist again and you want to bring the Grey Lords into Politics? Yeah, that is what we need, get the Mad Scientist Exiles in on the international diplomacy. I still can't believe we choose that to be our 'boon'.
Mr.Halfling said:
Come on it's not that bad, Lord Hatalath's supposed to have talked to humans before when he wandered the lands of whatever. Remember, he talked with those druid guys, the Belthani.
cucumberpikkl said:
I would like to remind everyone of the MoneyB post on the matter:
MoneyB said:
Lord Hatalath did not like humans doing magic for good and sensible reasons, starting at 'humans mutate at an unreasonable rate' continuing with 'they don't live enough for a proper apprenticeship' and ending with 'dear Hoeth, a lot of them seem to Fall to Chaos when their realize point one and two'. He is not going to actively take a position against you, not after you guys choose him to be your confidant for so long, but don't expect him to be good at talking to human wizards, he's still half convinced they will explode if you breathe on them a little too hard.
Our dear uncle liked the Belthani, he did not like their magic users and in any case there isn't much of them left, even their language
ParadoxDragon said:
I'm going to agree with the sentiment above, we cannot just jump into talking to the people with the funny robes when we do not even have this Ulric thing settled.
Mr.Halfling said:
This is why Norland keeps stealing a march on us, it does not matter how good our rulers are if they move at the speed of molasses. Look, lets at least talk to the dwarfs, we do know how to talk to them from the Before Times so we do not suffer that fully -25 Rushed penalty, only the -10 Old Enemies one
MoneyB said:
The Ar Ulric was more than happy to facilitate the meeting, waving away the motion of sending an envoy to the far realm of Karak Eight Peaks so in a whir or dwarfish artifice she arrived, of all the imperials your envoy had ever encountered among the most odd, though common among those who call themselves 'wizards' of the Empire. It's like someone who decided to live all their lives among the branches of a single apple tree calling themselves a horticulturist...

[...]

*skill rolls hidden*

Magister Weber is known as an expert on orcs apparently, thankfully a scourge we do not have much trouble with, but knowledge is knowledge and this seems promising, or at least novel...

Availibility roll: 18 (Headed for Karak Dum)

Alas though she was cordial, not just on her own account, but in the name of King Belegar her path does not lead her to Laurelorn for she has sworn a mighty path to make it to isolated hold of Karag Dum, where the doughty folk of the Karaz Ankor hope that some of their kin still dwell. In her place the senior-most wizard remains the Journeyowman Panoramia of the Jade Colege
ParadoxDragon said:
Welp, we just lost the cool shaodwmancer, ain't no one coming back from the Chaos Wastes
Lisoat said:
Nah, we can salvage this, this is good. Jades and Laurelin are a good match since they are all about things that grow and in canon it was the Jade Matriarch who was doing her thing to fix Sylvania. And by the time we get to our next turn she should be a magister
Mr.Halfling said:
Yeah, that sounds about right
MoneyB said:
[...]
You are interupted in the midst of your negotiations with House Tindomiel with grave news:

Mathilde Roll: 100 Crit Roll 9

Having returned from the Chaos Wastes Magister Weber is embarking on a great, some would say foolhardy endeavour, to restore not just the lesser nodes of the network, but to rediscover the secret of the stones in the names of all good people.
Alphahugger said:
YES, yes... give her everything... OK, OK, no offering military secrets to the Empire, give her everything we can posibily bribe her with short of getting deposed.
*Next update rolls around*
ParadoxDragon said:
What do you mean she already made a Waystone?
MoneyB said:
Remember how I said humans do not have ten year turns? I wasn't joking.
 
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[X] Plan Building A Better Future
-[X] [CAPSTONE] Stone Flower
-[X] [RUNE] Dwarven
-[X] [STORAGE] [Expensive] Runed
-[X] [FOUNDATION] Grey Lord
-[X] [TRANSMISSION] Both (Jade Riverine)
 
[X] Plan Building A Better Future (With reverse engineering)
[X] Plan: Repairing The Network First
[X] Plan Near-Original+

Adding an approval vote for my favorite runner-up
 
Thinking of the Waystone project like the space programme, I wonder if we can reuse any of the components.

I can see the individual enchantment for a single Wind as part of the College Fascis being useful as a component in large scale enchantments like Collegiate Battle Altars and potentially Towers to help them gather their Wind to recharge.

Similarly the Waystone rune is interesting in that it seems to increase the magical conductivity of materials it's inscribed on, and so would help in a similar way as the College Fascis enchantment.

If we do use the reverse engineered storage ant some point and get the difficulty down to something that human enchanters can make, that would seem to substantially reduce the cost of large capacity magic batteries. That might make towers and battle altars cheaper to make and possibly more powerful.

The other three storage options seem roughly comparable. Runic batteries don't seem to have significant differences to material or conventional enchanted ones that are already available.

I can't see much use for the Foundation and Transmission enchantments outside Waystones.
 
A Ballad of Trees and Wind: Queen Of Laurelorn Nega-Quest​

Here is my attempt at that. Very bare bones updates unfortunatly, it is quite late for me. Still hope you guys enjoy, this is a lot more upbeat than the Boris one so I could to the Alt!SV accounts thing.
Pretty good overall, though I feel like you could have afforded a bit more detail. I would have added a bit about how she helped reclaim K8P and Karak Vlag, and how that's already two nexuses on her name, and--

...Actually... Hey, do you guys think Laurelorn had any nexuses they no longer control? My gut reaction would be no, given the amount of time and effort they've expended on making their forest a veritable fortress against enemies, and their amount of magical might at their disposal, but now that the thought has occurred to me, I feel like that's a worrying possibility.
 
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You were replying to a section about costs and you were the one that brought up the runic inductor which wasn't previously part of the thread of discussion?

I was saying there was no cost based reason to use the runic inductor there because there isn't a cost impact here.

Your reply here seems like a complete non-sequitur unless I'm really missing something.
Runic indictor is one of the cheaper options compared to Stone Flower. But I don't want that in kislev for the reason I outlined.
 
A small, wicked, part of me can't help but observe that the deal we made with House Tindomiel has a weakness. We granted them first right of refusal to build the waystones, but if they can't provide enough production, we're allowed to have someone else build them. Someone who doesn't want to make them shrines to Hekarti. If we settle on a design that's heavily limited in the number that can be made for one reason or another, then House Tindomiel will have to either unbottleneck production with their own resources, or allow us to build a second, simpler waystone design that isn't decorated with such a politically fraught goddess.
 
A small, wicked, part of me can't help but observe that the deal we made with House Tindomiel has a weakness. We granted them first right of refusal to build the waystones, but if they can't provide enough production, we're allowed to have someone else build them. Someone who doesn't want to make them shrines to Hekarti. If we settle on a design that's heavily limited in the number that can be made for one reason or another, then House Tindomiel will have to either unbottleneck production with their own resources, or allow us to build a second, simpler waystone design that isn't decorated with such a politically fraught goddess.
that makes me like both winning options even more
 
...Actually... Hey, do you guys think Laurelorn had any nexuses they no longer control? My gut reaction would be no, given the amount of time and effort they've expended on making their forest a veritable fortress against enemies, and their amount of magical might at their disposal, but now that the thought has occurred to me, I feel like that's a worrying possibility.

This is what they said at the very beginning of the project:

We've got our own piece of the network just as the Dwarves do, and if we could bring a few more Waystones online, it could do a lot of good for us - and our friends and allies. So we want to open a relationship with your King Belegar, in the hopes of beginning joint research into the Waystone Network."

I think this was taken to mean that they had some Golden Age infrastructure they could no longer power, but it could be related to being able to do something with a Nexus.

Now we're close to being able to bring some new Waystones online, we should ask what they meant...

Runic indictor is one of the cheaper options compared to Stone Flower. But I don't want that in kislev for the reason I outlined.

The Runic Inductor and the Stone Flower both have the same negligible cost. They have different requirements to make, which means the rate of production may be different, but they cost the same.
 
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