Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest

[x] The Black Water Canal
[x] Tzar Boris Bokha
[x] Druchii Diplomats
[X] Swordplay
[x] Eike

[X] Eike
[X] Swordplay
[X] The Black Water Canal
[X] Druchii Diplomats
[X] Eonir Tourism
[X] Tzar Boris Bokha

Ok there is much good discussion, here's me half way through catching up:

CeBrudras said:

I think that number could be reduced further. I have gotten the impression that mono-abundance tends to be beneficially weird, so you could go down to 21 by just keeping, for example, the Ulgu in the vicinity of the stone.

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This is actually genius. Even besides a really elegant simplification. You know why?

First, because the repulsion of one single wind dominating an area might actually put some pressure on all the others to flow into the Waystone, as an escape. My money is on a single to low double digit increase in how far it pumps the other ones out.

Second, because it allows geothaumatilogical engineering, like the way the Altdorf nexus was repurposed. After all, it doesn't have to be the most common wind that we leave in the area- leave ghyran in agricultural areas, leave hysh in cities, stack shysh around dangerous woods and mountains.

veekie said:

I like how Eike is so adorable he forgot about dominating credit in favor of entertaining her...

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"Hah! Personally socially dominating Mathilde by making her apprentice like me better is so much sweeter!"

Andres said:

Archives of the Empire 3, the biggest source of lore on Rhya, implies she's responsible for the endoggening of the wolf. Belthani myths say she gave "domesticated grain" and tamed animals, and a contemporary myth says her handmaidens gave tame aurochs and secrets on how to tame the wild.

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I like this. It puts her opposed to the beastmen on a conceptual level, the way Shayla is to Nurgle, while Taal always felt like he has a much more complicated (bit 'i am your rightful king' sort of thing? They live where he rules, they're wild, he's wild, they sort of stole his kingdom, it's complicated) relationship with them.

And that gives her a wargoddess edge that I like- shades of Aphrodite Astarte.

SITB said:

It seems we can almost create a pure dwarven Waystone at this point, so at least they aren't walking away with this project with nothing.

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I was just thinking about how mind breaking it would be for Tecelis if he came back and found out that the new Waystones weren't even magical, just materials and clockwork.

But now I'm thinking about how cool it would be to have ranger/engineer clans of dwarves who were founded to connect the new holds' new waystones to the old holds' network, who ran circuits through the mountains winding clockwork and dropping fish on piles of rocks every month.

pucflek said:

I imagine that the seviroscope, which is an utterly groundbreaking device that does not even need you to be magical to make, might have something to do with that.

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We shared this with him, right? We didn't just build the one for Kragg and leave him in the dark?

BurnNote said:

Three, prior cases of thaumoengineering easing him in. Like, way back the rune charger was mostly runes, but there was definitly an engineering component to it. And then the seviroscope was mostly engineering, but definitely highly relevant to runecraft.

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In a thousand years the lines between the workshops of runesmiths and the workshops of engineers are going to almost be gone, won't they.

Imagine that Thorek wins his political war, and in the aftermath the Karag Vlag traditions become much more widespread, in that anyone with a hint of blood will be taught as much as they are able to learn (unless they have real talent) even if they have to go to Vlag to learn. (The Rune Hold next to the Slayer's Hold.)

So engineers will have runic devices for lighting, ventilation, heat sources, and safety gear. Runesmiths will have runechargers, severiscopes of various types, lathes and grinding belts and polishing wheels. Magitech- TechnoDwarfs.

[X] The Black Water Canal
[X] Tzar Boris Bokha
[X] Nordland
[X] Middenland
[X] Eonir Tourism
[x] Druchii Diplomats

[X] Eike
[X] Swordplay

[X] Wissenland
[X] The Black Water Canal

[X] Druchii Diplomats
[X] Eonir Tourism

[X] Tzar Boris Bokha

[X] Kalishiniviks

Prospalz said:

>cobbling for centipedes

I vaguely recall that saying coming up before, but search gives me nothing. Anyone remembers from where it came from?

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Probably something from when we made the spell. The basis for it is a whole lot of mini-skywalks working together to create a flat surface to travel across.

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[X] Niedzwenka

Glau said:

We shared this with him, right? We didn't just build the one for Kragg and leave him in the dark?

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We did not but i imagine that since its not runesmith secret, Thorek might´ve glimpsed it. And he is sorta oriented towards this, remember when he made the vitae separator?

[x] Middenland
[x] Nordland
[x] The Black Water Canal
[x] Eonir Tourism
[x] Tzar Boris Bokha
[x] Eike
[x] Kalishiniviks
[x] Amber College

not been around much right now, but still voting.

[X] Middenland
[x] Druchii Diplomats

we are on a clock to get some free time to talk to these groups before the High elves turn up. might even be the next turn.

[X] Eike
[X] Swordplay
[X] The Black Water Canal
[X] Druchii Diplomats
[X] Eonir Tourism
[X] Tzar Boris Bokha

[X] Niedzwenka

[X] Middenland
[X] Nordland
[X] The Black Water Canal
[X] Tzar Boris Bokha
[X] Eike

I like eike!

[X] Eike
[X] Tzar Boris Bokha
[X] The Black Water Canal
[X] Swordplay
[X] Okri
[X] Kalishiniviks
[X] Niedzwenka

[x] Eike
[x] Tzar Boris Bokha
[x] Kalishiniviks
[x] The Black Water Canal
[X] Nordland

Current state of the vote. I'm seeing surprisingly little interest in Skull River and Vampire Kislevites, though they're not far off enough to be out of the race.

[X] The Black Water Canal
[X] Druchii Diplomats
[X] Middenland
[X] Eonir Tourism
[X] Nordland

[X] Okri
[X] Nordland
[X] The Black Water Canal
[X] Eonir Tourism
[X] Tzar Boris Bokha
[X] Amber College
[X] Druchii Diplomats

The canal and the coronation seem to be all but autopicks for most, and that's unlikely to change. Our adorable apprentice keeps racing neck to neck with elven tourism for 3rd and 4th. Nordland and Middenland vie for the fifth place, with Nordland in the lead (understandable, as the political situation over there is more fraught and hostile). Druchii and following up on the ambush would need a hefty push to get into top 5, let alone the Kalishiniviks (sadge).

[x] The Black Water Canal
[x] Eonir Tourism
[x] Tzar Boris Bokha
[x] Skull River Ambush

I've warmed up to checking up on Nordland. It's not our job, but we should really take a look to see if there's some sort of opportunity to smooth things over without overextending ourselves.

Like, perhaps if we'd checked on the Canal on a previous social action, we'd have preemptively increased the EIC's river navy, which might have been more ideal than waiting until the canal proper opened to do so.

Parabola said:

The fief was chosen specifically so we wouldn't have to micromanage it. Ever since the initial few actions and money we invested in it to make it nicer, we've only ever checked on it as a social action. It's in good hands, we don't need to worry.

As for a retinue... *Looks over at Knightbringer*

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A single Apparition dosen't make a retinue, unless you propose to catch more.

If we wanted a retinue we should have chosen the options to summon multiple riders.

[X] The Black Water Canal
[X] Tzar Boris Bokha
[X] Kalishiniviks
[X] Skull River Ambush
[X] Eike

[X] The Black Water Canal
[X] Druchii Diplomats
[X] Eonir Tourism
[X] Tzar Boris Bokha
[X] Kalishiniviks

I'd much prefer to do the Middenland and Nordland socials in the same turn, but the option I'd drop to fit them in would be the tourism option, and I can't see that dropping enough for Middenland to squeeze in.

dropping Middenland, would prefer it over Nordland, but I really, really want to get a few interactions with the Dark Elves in before the High elves get into the game.

we will lose a lot of 'free space' to make deals and have interactions when they are there to get upset at it and throw political weight around to block it. (and the other way around a bit.)

[X] Druchii Diplomats

Mystic Pentagram said:

A single Apparition dosen't make a retinue, unless you propose to catch more.

If we wanted a retinue we should have chosen the options to summon multiple riders.

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It was a joking post, but to take it seriously... Mathilde doesn't really need a retinue, is the thing. She's not even well-suited to having one.

She's plenty self-sufficient, doesn't really need any more minions than she already has, occasionally goes on solo adventures that we couldn't bring many people on, and our method of transportation, the gyrocarriage, doesn't really allow for a very large amount of people to come along to other places with us.

matilda wouldnt know that she might need to get ahead of the azur, but she would know that they're likely to notice changes to the network (as they did with kislev) and come knocking and if the druchii are offering anything the empire can play both sides off the middle and come out ahead post bidding war even if they eventually just choose to return to the azur's sphere of influence.

Edit: id be open to capturing a second rider in red for a retinue, it would be useful in battle since mat can get wherever she wants to be and then drop a tactical cavalry unit on top of whichever group of enemies would hate that the most (re enemy battle mages, artillery, archers, ect)

[X] Eike
[X] Swordplay
[X] Middenland
[X] Nordland
[X] The Black Water Canal
[X] Skull River Ambush