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Yeah, I did. That response was specifically about human heads of state, and I made an error on that. You then asked me how I got to 5 with human heads of state, then you responded to *that*. At what point did we circle away from human heads of state? I said my numbers were wrong because I didn't add X, you asked how I got to the number without adding X, then when I shared that you went alright so it's 7 or more, at no point specifying you added X back in.
I figured the bit about the human heads of state was a brief aside, and then returned to "the total number of heads of state in the Old World", because I forgot to include Marienburg in my tally.

(Also, I disagree about the head of the Burgerhof counting as a Head of State, he's- literally- the US Speaker of the House, I wouldn't call that position a 'head of state')
 
Arguably by that metric you should count the Fay Enchantress as the dual head of state of Bretonnia as well. Especially considering she can unilaterally dismiss the King and strip him of his titles.
She can and she does wield a lot of very real power, but head of state is a specific role, one who is suppsoed to 'embody' a state, and the Fay Enchantress isn't really that, despite her power. Note that similarly, Marienburg's head of state is technically the Stadtholder, regardless of their lack of power. You can't really have two heads of state, outside of very specific forms of government, like diarchies (and even then you tend to have senior and junior rulers).
 
(Also, I disagree about the head of the Burgerhof counting as a Head of State, he's- literally- the US Speaker of the House, I wouldn't call that position a 'head of state')
Eh I'd put him more as the prime minister of Canada, though that is mostly because I'm Canadian. Canada has the prime minister and the Governor General, in an almost direct comparison to how marienburg is set up
 
Eh I'd put him more as the prime minister of Canada, though that is mostly because I'm Canadian. Canada has the prime minister and the Governor General, in an almost direct comparison to how marienburg is set up
The official Head of State of Canada is King Charles III.

(I said the Burgerhof is the US House because the head of it is literally named after Newt Gingrich)
 
The official Head of State of Canada is King Charles III.

(I said the Burgerhof is the US House because the head of it is literally named after Newt Gingrich)
Officially yeah, but practically our head of state is both our prime minister and the governor general, generally pretty interchangeably. This is because the official head of state is literally across an ocean, as well as busy being the head of state of the UK. Officially, King Charles is our head of state, but in reality it's lip service
 
Officially yeah, but practically our head of state is both our prime minister and the governor general, generally pretty interchangeably. This is because the official head of state is literally across an ocean, as well as busy being the head of state of the UK. Officially, King Charles is our head of state, but in reality it's lip service
I feel like you're conflating "Head of State" with "Head of Government".

The two aren't always the same- in a Parliamentary system, they generally aren't.

In Ireland for example, the Head of State is the President, while the Head of Government is the Taoiseach (Irish Prime Minister).
 
Then the gun foundries fell into a sinkhole and someone had the idea of using the Metalsmith's Guild boon to fix things in exchange for copying rights to all of Nuln's libraries, and that took off.
I remember this, It was @mathymancer! Everyone say "Thanks for saving us a ton of AP Mathymancer!"
Is this the sort of thing that could be hastened by the help of some metalsmiths? Say, the Karaz-A-Karak Metalsmiths Guild? Because there's a certain person that can make that happen, for the low price of some Nuln BOÖK.
Yes. Now might be an interesting time to shake some books out of Nuln, if one was so inclined.
 
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Yes.
I'm not sure what I was referring to, I think that was before I'd done a deep dive of libraries in the setting so at that time I didn't realize the University library was the Verenan one as well.
It's under the authority of the Cult of Verena, so we can't Great Deed our way into it, entirely beside our current tensions with that Cult, which is a shame. We'll have to negotiate with it the normal way, most likely.
 
That's straight up from the text on what a Great Deed can buy.

"Be granted the right to make copies of all written materials within one library under Imperial (non-Collegiate, non-Cult) authority. Provide your own scribes."

The University of Altdorf's library is just straight up called the Temple-Library of Verena, so a Great Deed can't access it. That was part of why we set our eyes on Nuln's Great University in the first place - despite the Temple of Verena there being pretty notable, the colleges and libraries aren't actually under the Verenans' control.
 
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I am pretty sure we can get a good deal with the Altdorf Verenans the normal way, by talking to them and cutting a deal. We have an impressive library (which will become even more impressive by the time we finish copying all those Nuln books) and our library supports principles of the Lorekeeper Verenans in word and in deed. We should wait a bit because it's probably not a good idea to go to them right after pissing off the Nuln branch of the Cult, but there's a huge pile of libraries we have yet to copy so it's not like there's a rush.
 
Passage is booked on a passenger ship up the Urskoy to Kislev City without anyone involved retaining any memories of the woman,
@Boney : Does Mindholes work on specific identities? Like say if Mathilde dresses up all in red wearing a red mask and mugs someone stealing their money and says "You will always remember the day you were robbed by the Red Hood!". Then mindholes them they will forget the Red Hood and the robbery, but will the also forget the legendary gray wizard that have heard stories about and don't think that they have met?
 
@Boney : Does Mindholes work on specific identities? Like say if Mathilde dresses up all in red wearing a red mask and mugs someone stealing their money and says "You will always remember the day you were robbed by the Red Hood!". Then mindholes them they will forget the Red Hood and the robbery, but will the also forget the legendary gray wizard that have heard stories about and don't think that they have met?

I do not think it can make you forget things outside the scene. Like if we mind-holed Belegar he would forget that one interaction but not all the others or what he knows about us in general.
 
@Boney : Does Mindholes work on specific identities? Like say if Mathilde dresses up all in red wearing a red mask and mugs someone stealing their money and says "You will always remember the day you were robbed by the Red Hood!". Then mindholes them they will forget the Red Hood and the robbery, but will the also forget the legendary gray wizard that have heard stories about and don't think that they have met?
K / Mindhole: A target at short range will forget everything they know of you.
- You have no way of controlling or limiting this effect. It's all or nothing.
I'd assume that would count as a way of controlling or limiting the effect, so no go.
 
Mindhole seems like something useful to enchant onto an object then. Like say a mask.
That runs into this issue:
Nobody has ever claimed to have successfully enchanted something with Mindhole. A fair few Grey Wizard enchanters have found themselves really confused about what they've been doing for the last month, and often end up spending the next few days tripping over some sort of object, having forgotten where or even what it was.
 
Mindhole seems like something useful to enchant onto an object then. Like say a mask.
It turns out that it's quite hard to find items enchanted with Mindhole once you've put them down.

Edit: It's probably a pretty good way of containing evil artefacts that can't be destroyed for some reason. Stick em in a box, enchant the box, wonder what you were up to for the previous month when you're done. For all we (or anyone) knows, there's already a warehouse with a bunch of this stuff somewhere in the Grey College, and nobody's quite sure how full it is.
 
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Yeah, we know there *are* other memory spells that the college has, since we know about the contingency memories they stick in people's heads, but we've never been offered anything about what they are. I suppose as a Lady Magister Mathilde might be able to ask to learn about them? But it's probably pretty need to know since they don't want people mucking around with memories out in the wild. One more reason to become Grey Matriarch and learn (most) of the college's secrets lol.
 
It turns out that it's quite hard to find items enchanted with Mindhole once you've put them down.

Edit: It's probably a pretty good way of containing evil artefacts that can't be destroyed for some reason. Stick em in a box, enchant the box, wonder what you were up to for the previous month when you're done. For all we (or anyone) knows, there's already a warehouse with a bunch of this stuff somewhere in the Grey College, and nobody's quite sure how full it is.
Everytime an Ulgu wizard comes up with the idea, they are delighted by their own cleverness. They get a designated spot for the attempt and an evil artifact (sometimes suprisingly potent for a first attempt). Some time later, another parcel is scored off, and the two perpetuals responsible settle the betting pool. The most prolific has done it twenty-three times, and these days it takes him barely a week from when someone nudges into the idea (or he comes up with it himself) until he's done. He always wears steal toed boots, and has switched rooms three times.
He's also part of the betting pool, even though he doesn't know what the bets are about. Betting on pools you only have the vaguest idea about is a time honored tradition and it's considered gauche not to take place. Setting up betting pools with vague and undefined criteria is also a time honored tradition, and seen as one of the two proper ways of making up for losses incured during mystery betting. The other way, of course, is finding out what those other pools actually are about and taking advantage of that.
 
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