NuclearConsensus
Herald of the Thorned One
- Location
- the Philippines
It might be possible if the wizard doesn't have any arcane marks. Those would definitely remain unless the wizard in question feels like hacking off bits of their soul.
Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest
- Thread starter Boney
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chocolote12
A Penguin Flailing Against The Keyboard Of Life.
That's a good question, and I had to stop for a minute to think about if I really knew it or if I was just assuming that I was right about the answer.
Uh, I think the answer is that spells are an activated version of the wind that's more noticeable than the ambient stuff, and they burn away over time. I don't think we've ever had issues with needing to recycle winds in any way.
I will note that the winds of magic have a finite output on the battlefield, but I do not think they have a finite amount; if you use 80% of the Ulgu, then another wizard on your side can't use a spell that needs 30% of it, but when you are done they should be able to cast after you; that's why spamming high cost spells before the other side gets to cast so that they have nothing to work with isn't a strategy (I think)*.
My reasoning for spells being the same wind but more obvious comes from Boney's reason against 'Double Invisibility'. Invisibility spells conceal the user, but not themselves. Ulgu is a fundamental magical particle, so I don't think there's really anything else the spell could be; I think that if casting transformed Ulgu into undifferentiated spell energy, Dhar issues with many multi-wind enchantments and combination effects wouldn't be so prominent.
*Dhar is special because 'pure dhar' is, to the best of my understanding, an artificial substance that only originates from deliberate effort. It's like an evil smoothie that you have to keep so agitated that it stays purely impure. I could be misremembering badly, though.
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- Location
- Earth
The way I was thinking of it would be a Markov chain, both outcomes are possible, with some variable percentage that it goes from Wind to Wind or Wind to Earthbound, and eventually if you cast enough it'll all go to the second state.
The Winds have a repulsive effect that needs to be overcome to produce Dhar, so it would depend on if there was sufficient force to overcome the repulsion.
The example I can cite after a quick search would be the Seed of Regrowth (Ghyran), the Torc of Fire (Aqshy), and Mathilde's Aethyric Armour (Ulgu) which generated some small amounts of Dhar that got burned by the Belt from working in close proximity to each other.
TheOmnimercurial
Dragon Bard
- Location
- UK
[X] [RIDER] A man who could look like a depiction of Ranald, though there a lot of ambiguity about it due to the smoke drifitng around him partially obscuring his face at all times, in a knight costume, wielding swords, riding a horse-sized housecat.
[X] [RIDER] Great Cat Knight
[X] [RIDER] Ranald in a slightly shoddy knight costume on a giant housecat
[X] [RIDER] Six-legged cat
[X] [RIDER] Other (Ulgu Dragon)
[X] [RIDER] Other (Ulgu Hydra)
[X] [RIDER] Other (Ulgu Six Armed Naga)
[X] [RIDER] Other (Ulgu Dragon Ogre)
[X] [RIDER] Other (Tigerman from Ind with a Scimitar & Shield with Ranald's Rune on it, with a Sabretusk Mount)
[X] [RIDER] A Humongous (for a goblin) Goblin Warboss on a Warboar who's a massive chonker
[X] [RIDER] A rider formed of shadows wearing robes and a Witch Hunter's hat on a Sabretusk, with their face perpetually obscured by mists and a cloak of mist trailing from their shoulders.
[X] [RIDER] A Lizardman Warrior wielding an Obsinite Macahuatl & wearing Obsinite Armour while riding a Cold One Mount
[X] [RIDER] Wee little Baby Mammoth
[X] [RIDER] Great Cat Knight
[X] [RIDER] Ranald in a slightly shoddy knight costume on a giant housecat
[X] [RIDER] Six-legged cat
[X] [RIDER] Other (Ulgu Dragon)
[X] [RIDER] Other (Ulgu Hydra)
[X] [RIDER] Other (Ulgu Six Armed Naga)
[X] [RIDER] Other (Ulgu Dragon Ogre)
[X] [RIDER] Other (Tigerman from Ind with a Scimitar & Shield with Ranald's Rune on it, with a Sabretusk Mount)
[X] [RIDER] A Humongous (for a goblin) Goblin Warboss on a Warboar who's a massive chonker
[X] [RIDER] A rider formed of shadows wearing robes and a Witch Hunter's hat on a Sabretusk, with their face perpetually obscured by mists and a cloak of mist trailing from their shoulders.
[X] [RIDER] A Lizardman Warrior wielding an Obsinite Macahuatl & wearing Obsinite Armour while riding a Cold One Mount
[X] [RIDER] Wee little Baby Mammoth
- Location
- North Wales
- Pronouns
- He/Him/His
I don't think the nature of "Pure Dhar" has ever been clarified. It might be a 'perfect mixture' of all eight winds smooshed together in even ratio in a sort of evil mirror to Qhaysh.
It might be using regular Dhar, but without intermediaries or adulterants like other winds (Ghur for Beastmen, Shyish for Necromancers, Ulgu for Clan Eshin, etc) or divine magic (Chaos Sorcery).
It might just be "Pure Dhar" because it's Dark Elves using it, so it's naturally pure according to them because they're just that awesome.
Personally, I'd love to get some info about this and I feel it could be really useful for when we need to counterspell Druchii in Nagarythe
- Location
- Chicago
- Pronouns
- She/They
Or it might be bog standard Dhar wrapped in elven pride. Which I'm kinda rooting for.
So. There's been a lot of interest in an in an ulgu dragon skinned apparition, shot down mostly due to volume and mass. So what's the biggest apparition out there? Rotwurms?
So. There's been a lot of interest in an in an ulgu dragon skinned apparition, shot down mostly due to volume and mass. So what's the biggest apparition out there? Rotwurms?
- Location
- The Surface Of A Hostile Planet
And so Mathilde's Dhar-handling skills tick up another few notches. I wonder how many milliNagashes we're at by now.
Mopman43
Mountain-Hermit of Nitpeak
- Location
- Vermont
They're described as 'giant daemonic maggots', but I don't know if that's giant in general or giant for maggots.
The Rider in Red might honestly be the biggest- he's got a horse.
- Location
- Before the Ninth Gate
QuietlyObserving
The Railgun That Walks Like a Bear
- Location
- Here.
Especially compared to Mathilde. Average warhorse was about 15 hands/60 inches at the withers. The top of her head might not even reach the horse's back.
- Location
- Hiding in the walls.
- Pronouns
- She/Her
The Malbrothex is described as a "large humanoid", but it's unclear if that's "big like a big person" or "big like a Troll". It's also quite plausibly a Greater Daemon of Nurgle, so probably not our best pick regardless.
The Fat Man is, of course, described as massing a lot; however, I'm inclined to guess it might also be Nurglish, and it has the wrong number of limbs.
The Whispering Darkness is arguably a contender for most volume, but probably has the least mass.
As noted, Rotwyrms might be giant or might just be giant for maggots, which are very different.
Mopman43
Mountain-Hermit of Nitpeak
- Location
- Vermont
I'd expect the Rider still masses ahead of the first two.
Horses are big. Warhorses generally weighed over 1,000 lbs.
The scale of the effect is way too small. It would take the entire population of Stirland doing this and nothing else just to make any sort of measurable difference. And you probably don't want that mushroom becoming endemic to Sylvania and significantly increasing the maximum Dhar density of the terrain.
Trying to figure out a way to measure Waaagh energies in a mushroom is not that different a problem from the original one of trying to figure out a way to measure Waaagh energies in the air.
No.
Their soul is still visible.
No. The current idea will just be able to see the Winds and things that attract Winds, like Dhar.
A Shadowsteed can't fly, also it's not actually on a Shadowsteed even if the option that looks like one is chosen, so the capabilities of a Shadowsteed aren't relevant.
No.
No. The base apparition isn't a shapeshiter or amorphous.
No.
[X] [RIDER] Great Cat Knight
- Location
- Hiding in the walls.
- Pronouns
- She/Her
Horses are big, but so are some kinds of troll; this seems to provide a decent size comparison, and these are regular River Trolls - River Troll Hags seem to be even bigger. "Large humanoid" seems to have a pretty big range in Warhammer.
We're making our own Orbs of Pondering soon.
Eight of them, in fact.
Something I am trying to think about is how the colleges will react to Mathilde dropping waystones (potentially) orbs of sorcery, book on Vitae, apparition binding and maybe servisopes. Like that is a lot of advancements that will get Mathilde demon checked. Like she may get investigated because of everything.
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- Location
- New Zealand
Mathilde: "Okay, before I get started, just hand me that ball of Hysh. Things will go faster that way."
To be fair, she's also leading a multinational, multidiscipline research project at the moment, so a lot of it could be assumed that she had a lot of insights into non-teclisian magic all at once simply from hanging out with so many magic users.
- Location
- Oklahoma
"No, no, this is from way before that! I actually learned it all from a creature from the Warp."
HypotenuseKnight
Knight of slime
- Location
- Slime
- Pronouns
- They/Them
what is an orb of pondering?
is it just a MORB
Mathilde will have to explain that she is torturing a warp entity for its blood , how to bind a warp entity, how dangerous waystones are, and a book on how to do two of those. Plus here is a revenue stream for dawi runesmiths.
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