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What happens if it isn't someone's fated day but they get crushed to paste by a falling roof-beam and then cooked into ash by the burning house collapsing on top of them?

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KreenWarrior said:
Fire wouldn't be True Death either. He would still be alive, just disembodied, and could be revived if his body was remade via suitable magic.
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So if you're got someone you really dislike you need to chop their head off and then keep their body under guard to make sure nobody can revive them? Since destroying it completely would mean they're no longer localised.
 
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DeadmanwalkingXI said:
That's not predictable.
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There are signs that one is going to die soon. Seeing the true form of one's fylgja in the physical world is a common one. Sometimes you just know that your death approaches. Sometimes you're told by a seeress or some manner of magical person or creature. None of them give concrete information, though.
The Lone badger said:
What happens if it isn't someone's fated day but they get crushed to paste by a falling roof-beam and then cooked into ash by the burning house collapsing on top of them?
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Your consciousness hangs around in Ginnungagap until either your day comes or someone uses magic to regrow your body.
 
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The Lone badger said:
What happens if it isn't someone's fated day but they get crushed to paste by a falling roof-beam and then cooked into ash by the burning house collapsing on top of them?
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Simon_Jester said:
Gonna be a hell of a repair job.
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This, yeah. Sufficiently powerful healing magic (well, 'healing' might not be the right word at that point) can repair/make you a new body. If it is your fated day, no coming back.
 
Hey Blackhand,

Can Steelfathers still use Orthsirr? Can they still gain Orthsirr? Is Ironjaw really a Steelfather without the Curse of Steel, or did he just claim the title?
 
The Lone badger said:
So if you're got someone you really dislike you need to chop their head off and then keep their body under guard to make sure nobody can revive them? Since destroying it completely would mean they're no longer localised.
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Most families keep bundles of hair on hand for reasons like that. All you need to regrow a body is a piece to grow it from.

Otherwise, you're shit out of luck. It's why house-burnings are such a big deal.

Another thing to keep in mind is that this only applies to Norse cultivators. Christians like Gabriel die when they are killed. But on the other hand, much better afterlife selection.
Shard said:
Can Steelfathers still use Orthsirr? Can they still gain Orthsirr? Is Ironjaw really a Steelfather without the Curse of Steel, or did he just claim the title?
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'And that's what the Masked Men are for. A Steelfather struggles to gain orthstirr, which is common among the strongest, so they employ their Ironbrothers to go out and do it for them.

As for Ironjaw... I refuse to spoil him for you like that. He's... an experience, to say the least. He'd also be rather cross with me for ruining his fun and it is for the best that he does not feel the need to break into your soul to get at me.'
DeadmanwalkingXI said:
Hey Blackhand, what happens to shapecrafted enhancements if you need your body replaced...do they stick around?
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'They do not.'
 
Hmm, I wonder what spirits are animating the Threaded Men. A soul from one of their component parts? A fell spirit from the Dark Forest? Something like draugr?
 
Shard said:
Da dup, soft confirmation that Dying is a critical part of Norse Cultivation!
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Steelfathers aren't immortal, though...? Well, not 'immortal' in the sense that they don't have a Day of Death. At least, I've seen no indication that that's a thing. Would be pretty surprised if they managed to get rid of it, too, since greater people than them have tried and failed.
 
Constenanto said:
Steelfathers aren't immortal, though...? Well, not 'immortal' in the sense that they don't have a Day of Death. At least, I've seen no indication that that's a thing. Would be pretty surprised if they managed to get rid of it, too, since greater people than them have tried and failed.
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They are immortal/unaging.

I suspect what happens is that they've basically fixed their position in their Saga.

As far as we know they can suffer Bodily Death but not True Death. Which is all kinds of awful, honestly.
 
Shard said:
They are immortal/unaging.

I suspect what happens is that they've basically fixed their position in their Saga.

As far as we know they can suffer Bodily Death but not True Death. Which is all kinds of awful, honestly.
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I don't think immortality necessarily means that you've fucked with your saga, but... yes, I wouldn't be surprised if the immortality the Steelfathers have fucks up their cultivation somehow.

I'm not so sure about them not suffering a True Death, though... Hallr and Ironjaw seemed to have no trouble killing them, permanently. I don't think a Bodily Death would've been so drastic that the Seeress would've been able to feel it from miles away otherwise.
 
[X] Plan Skyfire

Haven't really gone into the bushes with this one, but it looks good at first glance.
 
Steel is very hard to change so them finding it hard to get Orthrinsthir directly sounds about right. Though apparently Ironfathers can collect it for them which implies that you can transfer orth to others somehow which is definitely sus.
 
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Koguyra said:
Steel is very hard to change so them finding it hard to get Orthrinsthir directly sounds about right. Though apparently Ironfathers can collect it for them which implies that you can transfer orth to others somehow which is definitely sus.
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They don't 'transfer' the orthstirr like a Jarl does. Ironbrothers can gain orthstirr for Steelfathers by giving up their own identity and becoming 'Ironmasks' - they literally act as an extension of a Steelfather, so their orthstirr isn't recognised as their own, but rather the Steelfathers. I imagine they also become linked to the Steelfather in some sort of way - whether that be gaining a portion of their orthstirr pool, some of their power, I have no clue.
 
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The Lone badger said:
Do we have a feud against the entire Jomsviking, or just the specific ones who killed our grandfather?
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I mean, having a feud against Steelfathers is like having a feud against the weather for killing our grandfather with lightning at our current level. I think we don't like them in general, but have better things to do than die to no purpose going up against such a powerful group. If we hit high enough power level to kill Steelfathers we'll revisit the issue.
 
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