Alectai
Speaks Words of Wisdom... On occasion
I don't think that'll work, or rather, Hallr seems to have tried that and it failed, the Enemy can just out-escalate us if we try to one-shot it.
NorseQuest (A Norse Xianxia)
- Thread starter I.F. Ister
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I don't think that'll work, or rather, Hallr seems to have tried that and it failed, the Enemy can just out-escalate us if we try to one-shot it.
As long as it only kicks a hornets nest and doesn't kill us outright we can give moms amulet to Sigurd (or more likely: Abjorn to hold it for Sigurd) and send them to moms homeplace while we die a heroic death.
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This is really, really, not the time to be poking cultivation things. Not in the slightest.
Alectai
Speaks Words of Wisdom... On occasion
Then please, pray tell.
When will it be time?
Are we just supposed to accept that The Enemy is functionally omniscient and thus nothing we can do will escape its gaze?
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I don't know when is a good time, but now, when we have so many things in the fire, and are very angry and upset as a questbase, is a very bad time.
The QM is literally going from behind the screen saying 'You shouldn't do this', that's as big as warning sign as you can possibly get.
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Why? The book will likely not be completed for a long time no matter what and it doesn't seem urgent at all. We want to do it, sure, but why start this turn? Or even before Horra is dealt with? I don't see the percentage in it over things with more immediate benefits.
Like, it's gonna be at least, what, half a dozen actions for the book, minimum? And it'll basically be useless until its done? We don't have the actions to make enough progress on that right now to matter.
Once we deal with Horra and have a moment to breathe we can start in on writing the book, but it's not helpful in the immediate future.
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Alectai
Speaks Words of Wisdom... On occasion
Okay then, what can we do that actually achieves our goals then?
We don't have so much time that we can afford to just sit around and waste aturn, Cultivation Class is apparently never going to be an option, and Horra's still looming with our due date getting very, very close.
What should we do?
We don't have so much time that we can afford to just sit around and waste aturn, Cultivation Class is apparently never going to be an option, and Horra's still looming with our due date getting very, very close.
What should we do?
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Plan Rest and Recovery is not a waste. The training is relevant, the research is relevant, it gives Stigr a powerful weapon, it helps secure the loyalty of our retainers, and it regains us some much needed orthstirr. In terms of cultivation stuff, it tells us a lot more about how Frenzy and the Pockets work, and more about Hugareida as well, and sees what putting Odr into poetry does, which seems super relevant and interesting. How is any of that a waste? All of that seems super relevant to both our long term and short term goals to me.
Next turn, we'll raid Horra's sanctum, and the turn after we'll bring him to court. If you have something that preps for that I'm all ears, but I think any long term cultivation stuff should take a backseat until then. I was willing to do the cultivation class now when it seemed like this was an opening to do so more safely, but if that's not the case, we should just focus down the Horra problem for the most part then get back to that.
All that said, Cultivation Class is actually still happening right now. If votes don't change that goes through no matter how bad an idea it might be.
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I.F. Ister
Fortifying The Thread
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Investigate the Witch
Deal with Horra
Prepare a site for the Reveal
Figure out how to unlock someone's Gate without killing them.
These are the major goals you can work towards right now.
Revealing is a step, but it's something that's going to draw The Enemy's gaze and it's going to come at you with overwhelming power. When I say 'prepare correctly', I mean that in a broad scale. Runes, Dwarven Machinery, Seidr, Fortified Structures, and, yes, Power of your own.
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[X] Plan Rest And Recovery
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[X] Plan Troll-Man-Killing
[X] Plan Rest And Recovery
It seems that there are two different interpretations of recent events.
1. The Enemy has a "screw the newly awakened cultivator" budget, which he has just spent. If the budget is already blown, then now would be the best time to reveal cultivation, before the Enemy can reassign assets.
2. The Enemy has separate budgets for "screw the newly awakened cultivator" and "prevent the spread of cultivation". The budget for the first has been spent, but the assets for the second are still able to be deployed at any moment. Given that we don't have a house right now, and we've got Horra still to take care of, we may hold off teaching about cultivation until we're ready for a fresh new assault.
The recent comments from Imperial Fister lead me to believe the latter interpretation, so I am changing my vote accordingly.
[X] Plan Rest And Recovery
It seems that there are two different interpretations of recent events.
1. The Enemy has a "screw the newly awakened cultivator" budget, which he has just spent. If the budget is already blown, then now would be the best time to reveal cultivation, before the Enemy can reassign assets.
2. The Enemy has separate budgets for "screw the newly awakened cultivator" and "prevent the spread of cultivation". The budget for the first has been spent, but the assets for the second are still able to be deployed at any moment. Given that we don't have a house right now, and we've got Horra still to take care of, we may hold off teaching about cultivation until we're ready for a fresh new assault.
The recent comments from Imperial Fister lead me to believe the latter interpretation, so I am changing my vote accordingly.
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We need to work on resolving the Horra plotline.
Also if you ask me, the Enemy will use the rule of Power Demands Sacrifice plus Memory is Forever to attack when we tell people. The power of Odr and it's potential for cultivation, like how the Witch likely named the real price as 'whatever the value and potential our Fylgja revealed was to us' as her real price.
Also, the Enemy probably just has a singular large but finite budget, which it apportions appropriately in its task of fucking over cultivation.
Also if you ask me, the Enemy will use the rule of Power Demands Sacrifice plus Memory is Forever to attack when we tell people. The power of Odr and it's potential for cultivation, like how the Witch likely named the real price as 'whatever the value and potential our Fylgja revealed was to us' as her real price.
Also, the Enemy probably just has a singular large but finite budget, which it apportions appropriately in its task of fucking over cultivation.
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We can work towards resolving the Horra situation and hope that there isn't some new pressure to take its place.
Get evidence. (We may be happy with just the machines)
Get Horra outlawed (right before the fight, not possible this turn)
Take pieces of the board so they aren't there to help Horra. (Bandit camp, maybe trolls)
Plan: Rest and relaxation also gets useful stuff done.
Who says that Cultivation Class is never an option?
We are in the first character, in the 6. year. You are putting the "not a failure if we reach" mark at... what was it? Our Kids becoming adults? That is 16 years. For the first batch. More if we consider all the kids that are yet to be born.
And if we have less action starvation once we dealt with Horra we could try some more cultivation experimentation, or general other stuff.
@MrRageQuit @Sivantic @Andmeuths @TheCount @TehChron @Sirrocco
Y'all are voting for "Plan Cultivation Class" which involves revealing cultivation, I just want to make sure you saw the QMs post on what he meant when he said that with proper preparation the enemy wouldn't overwhelm us instantly.
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Edited in a warning at the beginning of the Plan Post about revealing cultivation being probably not a great idea.
Agreed, if we go Rest And Recovery this turn is mostly setup so we'll be in shape to do a raid on the sanctum next turn.
That's probably not what happened. There's certainly no proof of it, and in fact the way she and Blackhand talked makes it almost impossible. He literally scared her into not doing that. No, she (or whoever she passed it on to) used the debt for something clever like 'an invitation into your home for the next hour', that was within the minor favor we owed but then used to allow the attack.
This is probably true, yes. But we go way up the priority list if we start teaching people things.
Agreed, if we go Rest And Recovery this turn is mostly setup so we'll be in shape to do a raid on the sanctum next turn.
That's probably not what happened. There's certainly no proof of it, and in fact the way she and Blackhand talked makes it almost impossible. He literally scared her into not doing that. No, she (or whoever she passed it on to) used the debt for something clever like 'an invitation into your home for the next hour', that was within the minor favor we owed but then used to allow the attack.
This is probably true, yes. But we go way up the priority list if we start teaching people things.
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Or a cultivator spreading the knowledge increases the budget to deal with them (and starts budgets for the newly awakened cultivators).
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Actually... @Imperial Fister can we put Orthstirr into making better poetry like we can for crafting? It would make sense if not (there's no object to put it into), but I'd hate to miss out just because we never thought to try.
I.F. Ister
Fortifying The Thread
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That makes sense to me!
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@Imperial Fister
1. Does Wanderlust have 'negative Hamingja', or does the circumstance mean it doesn't get negative Hamingja?
2. If/When we rebuild, would trying to put Runes on the very stone and floorboards etc be useful?
1. Does Wanderlust have 'negative Hamingja', or does the circumstance mean it doesn't get negative Hamingja?
2. If/When we rebuild, would trying to put Runes on the very stone and floorboards etc be useful?
I.F. Ister
Fortifying The Thread
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Wanderlust broke, which would've dealt a hit to its luck if Stigr hadn't jammed the sword into his arm to keep on fighting.
Depends on the runes, but that could very well prove to be instrumental.
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Alright. Added the expenditure then, that's totally worth it, especially if we can avoid fighting for a whole turn.
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