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Anyway, I'm thinking that strategically?

We don't want to go down there unless we make them attack us first, like, say, through Disclosure.

He likely stacked the deck hard downstairs for our reprisal, but he can't actually magic new assets into place from out of nowhere without paying a very large price. He didn't do so even on Hallr until he was on the cusp of developing Fucking Excalibur.

But by doing our Disclosure, we fork him in turn. He has to either concede our Disclosure, or move his assets that are already present to try and stop it, which means he's attacking us on our home ground instead of the other way around. We win in either event.

Imperial Fister said:
Oh boy, this plan you folks seem to have settled on... Yikes.

I can't tell you anything more then that a lot of big assumptions have been made.
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... Are you referring to my disclosure plan or the plan that's currently winning? Because I'm still figuring things out and in the process of iterating, and nothing is settled yet.
 
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I want to see Halla survive a long time because I want to see the ultimate result of her development. Mostly I want to see just how fast she can act in combat if we keep stacking up bonuses and multipliers. Perfected Mire Ward, Saga Seeker, some sort of Go Fast trick, folded attacks. Reach the point where we can speedblitz an entire team of Foemen.
 
Halla I think will make it to the post-30s tier, but probably not survive long there.

Still, I'll call it a win if she lasts until the next PC candidates are fully trained up.
 
Alectai said:
Halla I think will make it to the post-30s tier, but probably not survive long there.

Still, I'll call it a win if she lasts until the next PC candidates are fully trained up.
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I mean, I could see her making it to 40...but yes, the best I expect is her living to see her children grown up, maybe her first grandchild or two given the short generations...not much longer than that.

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This one. All the Reprisals.

The Enemy... it's not even trying right now. You're getting the token response.
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That definitely makes me a lot less inclined to vote for cultivation class at this point. Not that my vote alone will change the result...
 
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DeadmanwalkingXI said:
I mean, I could see her making it to 40...but yes, the best I expect is her living to see her children grown up, maybe her first grandchild or two...not much longer than that.



That definitely makes me a lot less inclined to vote for cultivation class at this point.
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I think it's more "Don't poke it twice in one turn or you might see what happens when it puts its asskicking boots on"
 
Alectai said:
I think it's more "Don't poke it twice in one turn or you might see what happens when it puts its asskicking boots on"
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That's plausible. Maybe I'll just remove my vote from All The Reprisals...I was always a bit dubious there.

[X] Plan Cultivation Class
[X] Plan Troll-Man-Killing
[X] Plan Rest And Recovery

EDIT: Additional information makes me think revealing the truth at all is probably not ideal right now.
 
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how does reforging work mechanically?
Use smithing skill and an old weapon as material to make a new one?
Or is there more (like a reforging skill that Sten presumably has) to it?
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Oh boy, this plan you folks seem to have settled on... Yikes.

I can't tell you anything more then that a lot of big assumptions have been made.
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*sigh*

Imperial Fister said:
This one. All the Reprisals.

The Enemy... it's not even trying right now. You're getting the token response.
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Folks, can we please not escalate things with a big reveal?
Taking care of Horra has a chance to lead to a lull in emergencies, letting us focus on interesting things like Seidr and Soulscape stuff until we pass some boundary that causes the enemy to take some more interest in us. (Granted, taking care of Horra could also be that boundary, but it will still probably be less than what a reveal party causes)
Alectai said:
Halla I think will make it to the post-30s tier, but probably not survive long there.

Still, I'll call it a win if she lasts until the next PC candidates are fully trained up.
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Will they ever be fully trianed up?
There will always be another thing they could learn.
 
Toboe said:
Folks, can we please not escalate things with a big reveal?
Taking care of Horra has a chance to lead to a lull in emergencies, letting us focus on interesting things like Seidr and Soulscape stuff until we pass some boundary that causes the enemy to take some more interest in us. (Granted, taking care of Horra could also be that boundary, but it will still probably be less than what a reveal party causes)
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I think the problem might actually be doing the big reveal then going underground. That might be a problematic combination...

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Will they ever be fully trianed up?
There will always be another thing they could learn.
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Sure, but once they're competent adults with 7s in all their stats it's a lot less urgent.
 
Look.

We were told in the past that the Enemy's response to a Disclosure is 'Instant, but not overwhelming if you're properly prepared for it.'

I don't want to pass up a good crisis to advance our agenda simply because we were too scared to offend the Enemy when it's already decided to start attacking people around us, and this is the option that actively does so, as opposed to just doing the Norse Culturally Demanded Move and seeking Bloody Vengeance as soon as possible. When we've already been told the Enemy has stacked the game so much that it can't lose if you play by the Rules.

It has already gotten our household involved despite us 'Playing by the Rules', we're just informing them of the stakes involved.
 
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DeadmanwalkingXI said:
-[X] (Poetry) Try to realize an Inspiration
--[X] The Ironbrother
--[X] Invest 1 Odr into the attempt
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Could we instead make a poem about the Muna "First Kiss Under A Falling Tree"?
I have interest in that for future Souscape research.
(Though i could also live with an experiment how a Orthstirr poem would react when supercharged)
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(X) First Kiss Under A Falling Tree - You remember how the world seemed to freeze as you and Abjorn kissed. Unlocks Standstill Hugareida.
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Alectai said:
Look.

We were told in the past that the Enemy's response to a Disclosure is 'Instant, but not overwhelming if you're properly prepared for it.'

I don't want to pass up a good crisis to advance our agenda simply because we were too scared to offend the Enemy when it's already decided to start attacking people around us, and this is the option that actively does so, as opposed to just doing the Norse Culturally Demanded Move and seeking Bloody Vengeance as soon as possible. When we've already been told the Enemy has stacked the game so much that it can't lose if you play by the Rules.
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How is the current crisis an opportunity?
If we went "Everyone, can you gather so i can tell you something VERY important", why wouldn't they come just as well without the current issues?
 
Toboe said:
Could we instead make a poem about the Muna "First Kiss Under A Falling Tree"?
I have interest in that for future Souscape research.
(Though i could also live with an experiment how a Orthstirr poem would react when supercharged)



How is the current crisis an opportunity?
If we went "Everyone, can you gather so i can tell you something VERY important", why wouldn't they come just as well without the current issues?
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Because unless it just magics new forces into place retroactively--something that it seems reluctant to do--the only things it has on hand are the Troll-Men that attacked us, or whatever it had as a Surprise for when we attacked them.

And we're at the advantage if they attack us on our home ground instead of the other way around.
 
Toboe said:
Could we instead make a poem about the Muna "First Kiss Under A Falling Tree"?
I have interest in that for future Souscape research.
(Though i could also live with an experiment how a Orthstirr poem would react when supercharged)
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We could write a poem about that, but it wouldn't give us Otrthstirr (or at least vastly less of it). Inspirations are a specific mechanic and we only have two of them (the Draugr and the Ironbrother). I think we need the Orthstirr right now, which is why the action is in the plan.

Toboe said:
How is the current crisis an opportunity?
If we went "Everyone, can you gather so i can tell you something VERY important", why wouldn't they come just as well without the current issues?
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The opportunity is that the Enemy has expended many of its local resources so is less capable of attacking us instantly. There are still long term ramifications, but hopefully a weaker immediate attack.
 
So, for people voting Cultivation Class, do we think we want to add Tryggr and Trausti? Nobody ever responded when I asked that before. Alectai thinks we should and I'm amenable if there are no objections, especially in the Cultivation Class plan where we can take an action to work on their loyalty first.
 
[X] Plan Cultivation Class
[X] Plan Rest And Recovery

DeadmanwalkingXI said:
So, for people voting Cultivation Class, do we think we want to add Tryggr and Trausti? Nobody ever responded when I asked that before. Alectai thinks we should and I'm amenable if there are no objections, especially in the Cultivation Class plan where we can take an action to work on their loyalty first.
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I'm a fan.
 
Alectai said:
Because unless it just magics new forces into place retroactively--something that it seems reluctant to do--the only things it has on hand are the Troll-Men that attacked us, or whatever it had as a Surprise for when we attacked them.

And we're at the advantage if they attack us on our home ground instead of the other way around.
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That sounds like a huge assumption.
One that seems to contradict QM statements:

Imperial Fister said:
Oh boy, this plan you folks seem to have settled on... Yikes.

I can't tell you anything more then that a lot of big assumptions have been made.
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Imperial Fister said:
This one. All the Reprisals.

The Enemy... it's not even trying right now. You're getting the token response.
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He's referring to the plan where we go Full Disclosure and then waltz happily into its place of power.

I'm not arguing for that. I'm arguing for making him come to us instead of the other way around.
 
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