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Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest

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Adhoc vote count started by Nurgle on Sep 4, 2022 at 9:39 PM, finished with 472 posts and 169 votes.
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It is nice to see the thread on mostly one side vote.
 
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Damn, I think I joined right around when the "WHAT THE FUCK" surrounding Dum really came into full force, so it's both Fucking Sweet and kinda Nostalgic to finally get answers.
 
I wonder, if the Waystone Nuke was the chosen option, would it mean that Karak Vlag's disappearance had a different cause, or would we actually arrive just as the nuke goes off? The latter option would be quite spectacular to read about, at least.
 
Ya know with all this talk about Immortals who became gods. My mind immediately jumped to Monkey King. If any of this immortal stuff is broadly true, than they would have some really spicy secrets pertaining to that. Though I imagine actually getting said secrets from them is a entirely different story. :V
 
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Boney said:
Read her in to a number of minor but exciting secrets
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I know, which is rather incogruous with the fact that its happening in the one room that contains hints to one of the (as far as we know) best kept secrets in the Empire :V

Thought i suppose its rather hard to figure that out without our insider knowledge. Then again, Eike is a cultist of Shallaya, and is bound to know the myth behind that whole caboodle.
 
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CornyBones said:
"Oh? Have you not heard? It was my understanding everyone had heard. "
"I've been busy"
"Well, when you rescue a Karak from the Warp, the King declares you a dwarf. Sadly i haven't grown a beard yet, but im certain with time and effort our Ancestor Gods will bless me with some stubble"
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Mocking a dwarven heros glorious plaits?! That's a grudging!

:p
 
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He doesn't feel obliged to keep quiet about the ways of the new generations of Karag Dum because they don't see it as a secret and because the truth is slightly less bad than the natural surface reading
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Did he expound on what the things that were being taught actually are at all? I'm a bit confused/curious about that bit.
 
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I'd love to see Borek's reaction to "Mathilde is a dwarf actually".

He's clearsighted enough to recognize the politics of it. But he will probably appreciate that Mathilde is trying to live up to the standards, even if she doesn't believe it herself.
 
I am now imagining Matilde sending Eike off on a mission to get Shallya's side of the story (regarding Ranald's ascension and his supposed children with Shallya) as part of her training, all without coming out and explaining that that was what the mission was.
 
@Boney

Why is it that battle magic can "never" be cast reliably? Is this for game balance? Or is this a lore thing where Mathilde in-universe merely believes that battle magic can "never" be cast reliably because she and the rest of the colleges have never seen or met anybody who could? (IE, a Slann mage priest or anybody who somehow mangaes to reach a similar magic stat)
 
cog-nito said:
@Boney

Why is it that battle magic can "never" be cast reliably? Is this for game balance? Or is this a lore thing where Mathilde in-universe merely believes that battle magic can "never" be cast reliably because she and the rest of the colleges have never seen or met anybody who could? (IE, a Slann mage priest or anybody who somehow mangaes to reach a similar magic stat)
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I imagine it's both. In the tabletop, magic is a very powerful tool, so it makes sense to limit its use.

Concerning the in-universe side of things, elves and slaans must have some kind of way to limit miscasts or their effects. If it happened at the same rate than for humans, no archmage or slaan would have survived longer than a couple centuries at most. But I don't know if they are outright immune to miscasts, if they can learn to cast a few battle spells reliably or if it simply reduces the miscast rate.
 
cog-nito said:
@Boney

Why is it that battle magic can "never" be cast reliably? Is this for game balance? Or is this a lore thing where Mathilde in-universe merely believes that battle magic can "never" be cast reliably because she and the rest of the colleges have never seen or met anybody who could? (IE, a Slann mage priest or anybody who somehow mangaes to reach a similar magic stat)
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It's always been that way, even for the Slan.

People can get good enough at they are unlikely to fail, and good enough to pull out of a fail most of the time when they do, and good enough that failing is unlikely to really hurt them if they can't. (Why battle wizard isn't a death sentence) But there is always a miscasts chance.

Magic at that level remembers that it has an option, and that option is that you should be a cronenberg.

Think of it as being a big cat handler, trained experts are ok handling the lion in ways they anyone else would get mualed on the spot, and can go there while careers without a major accident.

But it's still lion. Sometimes a handler is just unlucky because the lion woke up that day and choice violence
 
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Jyn Ryvia said:
It's always been that way, even for the Slan.

People can get good enough at they are unlikely to fail, and good enough to pull out of a fail most of the time when they do, and good enough that failing is unlikely to really hurt them if they can't. (Why battle wizard isn't a death sentence) But there is always a miscasts chance.

Magic at that level remembers that it has an option, and that option is that you should be a cronenberg.
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To those curious, the explanation for why even the Slann can miscast is that they were created for and used to the perfect order of the Old Ones, and the influence of Chaos has corrupted reality so much that the Slaan don't even want to touch the ground in fear of being infected by the disorder of the world. Even the strongest Slaan can suffer from magical backlash and can't account for every possibility. The Slaan did not predict the collapse of Chupayotl, and that cast doubt in the minds of the Slaan who were so used to certainty.

They're much less likely to miscast, but they can very much do so.
 
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