And What a Dance it Was (NO SV, War is Coming, Prepare)

....Yeah starting to get the feeling we should of talked. Instead of calming down it went straight to blackmail. Talking might of stopped her from going for blackmail.
 
[X]Stay with Daemon: something tells you that he has a lot on his mind. Perhaps you can pick at it.

Now I get the feeling Daemon will fight our dad when he learns who our mother was.
 
[X]Stay with Daemon: something tells you that he has a lot on his mind. Perhaps you can pick at it.

Now I get the feeling Daemon will fight our dad when he learns who our mother was.

Dad: Thank you for caring for my son-

Daemon punches Dad in the face.

Edit: Though if Daemon ever found out he'd probably be happy. Though his opinion on keeping it secret would be different. Probably want everyone to know Lucien has the blood of the dragon in him if for nothing else to have Lucien be part of the "family" where he belongs. Like in canon Daemon was ready to give his future bastard kid a egg.
 
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Gael may not have been deaf or mute, but I do not believe she was mentally retarded. I believe she was on the spectrum because of how... well it was described in the histories.

And I decided to incorporate that little detail here.
If our goal is to repair their marriage somewhat, we will need insight into this (as well as a better relationship with Rhae). Also, extending an olive branch to Rhae (in the form of cordial conversation) seems magnanimous enough to characterize Lucien a bit, emphasizing willingness to at least make peace with people who have slighted him. Despite how much Daemon and Lucien like each other, I don't think we want to end up as vindictive as he is.
Well here is the thing: She does not know sign. That is going to be a big barrier between them.

Good news her Maester knows
....Yeah starting to get the feeling we should of talked. Instead of calming down it went straight to blackmail. Talking might of stopped her from going for blackmail.
That's the problem. They don't know how to get either of them to work with each other other without that, because they both resent each other that much.

Getting them to sit down and talk about their shared resentment... now that would be legendary in making the entire relationship work
Now I get the feeling Daemon will fight our dad when he learns who our mother was.
Well lets just say that we might have to save dad from being brutally tortured by a very vindicative daemon.
First time they meet:

Dad, signing: 'My Prince, it's good to finally meet-'

Daemon: *immediately starts throwing hands*
They've met before.

Who do you think our father returned him to after he rescued her the first time?
Dad: Thank you for caring for my son-

Daemon punches Dad in the face.
With a steel gauntlet.

Also: You have Made Daemon a somewhat more noble and nicer person...

He didn't immediately storm off and make his wife deal with the problem when Blackmail involving your father is involved and is seeking to solve the problem.
 
Want to talk with Rhae but can she actually understand Lucien if he only uses sign language? Or will Lucien force himself to speak so he can help?
 
Want to talk with Rhae but can she actually understand Lucien if he only uses sign language? Or will Lucien force himself to speak so he can help?
Her Maester will be able to translate, so the barrier will be the interpreter, rather than the language barrier itself.

That carries its own problems.
 
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That's the problem. They don't know how to get either of them to work with each other other without that, because they both resent each other that much.

Getting them to sit down and talk about their shared resentment... now that would be legendary in making the entire relationship work
....Challenge accepted!!

Though more serious. They honestly could get along. Just seems like the circumstances is making it hard for both of them. If they can look past it and actually talk? That be a big step.

Well lets just say that we might have to save dad from being brutally tortured by a very vindicative daemon.

Yeah dad sleeping with Daemons aunt would be bad on its own. Add in the her killing herself, taking her kid from the Targaryen family and now wanting Lucien to not be part of the family would piss Daemon beyond off. Daemon the family man would very much think Lucien should of been raised part of Targaryen family where he "belongs" in Daemons mind. Oh Daemon actually liking Lucien and being reminded of Gael before even knowing would help that along.

[X]Talk to Rhae: You want to speak to her and find out why the two of them hate each other
 
....Challenge accepted!!

Though more serious. They honestly could get along. Just seems like the circumstances is making it hard for both of them. If they can look past it and actually talk? That be a big step.
Correct. However they are in a very incompatible relationship where they are utterly hate each other, and both refuse to talk.

That's the biggest problem. Get them to talk about said relationship, and in a sense, the lack of control both of them had in it...

You might make them thaw out a little.
Yeah dad sleeping with Daemons aunt would be bad on its own. Add in the her killing herself, taking her kid from the Targaryen family and now wanting Lucien to not be part of the family would piss Daemon beyond off. Daemon the family man would very much think Lucien should of been raised part of Targaryen family where he "belongs" in Daemons mind. Oh Daemon actually liking Lucien and being reminded of Gael before even knowing would help that along.
Let me put it this way:

Considering Gael was about to drown the both of them after one of the twins was stillborn? Our father was very much in his right to save us from that potential death, even when he could not save Gael.

Now afterward?

That's where it gets murky.

The old king and his wife would not be thinking straight as they would be grief-stricken, and would only make things worse for you if they did. Mean our father would be executed immediately.

Now that would mean that we are now fatherless and motherless, and would be completely at the mercy of the Targaryen family.

Not something that would be... a good thing for us.

As for Daemon... Well Lets just say that he isn't going to kill our father... But he will make his mind and grief known.
 
[X]Talk to Rhae: You want to speak to her and find out why the two of them hate each other.

I wrote an Omake where the marriage gets better so BY THE SISTERS THIS MARRIAGE WILL GET BETTER!
 
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Correct. However they are in a very incompatible relationship where they are utterly hate each other, and both refuse to talk.

That's the biggest problem. Get them to talk about said relationship, and in a sense, the lack of control both of them had in it...

You might make them thaw out a little.

Let me put it this way:

Considering Gael was about to drown the both of them after one of the twins was stillborn? Our father was very much in his right to save us from that potential death, even when he could not save Gael.

Now afterward?

That's where it gets murky.

The old king and his wife would not be thinking straight as they would be grief-stricken, and would only make things worse for you if they did. Mean our father would be executed immediately.

Now that would mean that we are now fatherless and motherless, and would be completely at the mercy of the Targaryen family.

Not something that would be... a good thing for us.

As for Daemon... Well Lets just say that he isn't going to kill our father... But he will make his mind and grief known.

Oh Lucien would of definitely be the odd family member out of the family if they killed our dad. Only ones I could see caring for Lucien would of been the Queen because wanting to remember Gael through him, Daemon also caring for Gael along with understanding being the odd family member out and maybe Rhaenyra because of being the same age. Still Lucien would definitely have issues.

Yeah Daemon would still be pissed. Probably try to convince his dad if he's alive, Jaehaerys or Viserys if king to recognize Lucien as a Targ bastard to join the family officially. Daemon would probably get if done earlier would be bad but family man Daemon would still think the world should know Lucien is a true dragon even if he doesn't have the Targaryen name.
 
Oh Lucien would of definitely be the odd family member out of the family if they killed our dad. Only ones I could see caring for Lucien would of been the Queen because wanting to remember Gael through him, Daemon also caring for Gael along with understanding being the odd family member out and maybe Rhaenyra because of being the same age. Still Lucien would definitely have issues
I mean lets be honest here: we would not only be messed up in the head, but also resenting the Targ family.

Instead of being rather well adjusted (albeit a trauma mute) and a decent person with two awesome parents.
Yeah Daemon would still be pissed. Probably try to convince his dad if he's alive, Jaehaerys or Viserys if king to recognize Lucien as a Targ bastard to join the family officially. Daemon would probably get if done earlier would be bad but family man Daemon would still think the world should know Lucien is a true dragon even if he doesn't have the Targaryen name
Here is something I shall tell you:

Daemon is about ready to adopt you and allow you to take the family name, something entirely unlike Westerosi nobility to do, and give us his name anyway.

They don't adopt kids. Nor do their adoptive kids get the family name.

But Daemon might break that tradition.

And raise all sorts of hell in Westeros.
With our god roll we shall succeed.
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I mean lets be honest here: we would not only be messed up in the head, but also resenting the Targ family.

Instead of being rather well adjusted (albeit a trauma mute) and a decent person with two awesome parents.

Well probably resent Jaehaerys and his wife for killing dad at least. Which probably break the queens heart if she lived long enough. With maybe a few exceptions to liking certain targs.

Here is something I shall tell you:

Daemon is about ready to adopt you and allow you to take the family name, something entirely unlike Westerosi nobility to do, and give us his name anyway.

They don't adopt kids. Nor do their adoptive kids get the family name.

But Daemon might break that tradition.

And raise all sorts of hell in Westeros.

Daemon after learning Lucien mom:...Screw it where are the adoption papers? That little shit will be a Targaryen.

-Later-

Jaehaerys: What did you do?!

Daemon: Our Family is beyond traditions.

Everyone in the Small Council chamber:.....*sigh*.....
 
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Well probably resent Jaehaerys and his wife for killing dad at least. Which probably break the queens heart if she lived long enough. With maybe a few exceptions to liking certain targs.
As i said, messed up and not like we are now, a normal kid with a dragon, raised by two loving parents.
Daemon after learning Lucien mom:...Screw it where are the adoption papers? That little shit will be a Targaryen.

-Later-

Jaehaerys: What did you do?!

Daemon: Our Family is beyond traditions.

Everyone in the Small Council chamber:.....*sigh*.....
Our Parents have to agree to it.

And that is very possible that they wont. Even if Daemon threatened to kill them. They love Lucien that much that they would defy empires to protect their son.
 
Our Parents have to agree to it.

And that is very possible that they wont. Even if Daemon threatened to kill them. They love Lucien that much that they would defy empires to protect their son.

Question then becomes do we push for the adoption or not. I'm leaning towards accepting the adoption. Much as our parents don't want us involved it's kinda too late for that. In the Game now and the way to survive is get power and influence. Getting adopted and getting the Targaryen name does that. So sorry parents need to happen so we can protect you and ourselves.
 
Funny enough, Jaehaerys said the same thing in his youth. His targaryen exceptionalism was about how the laws of Westeros and the faith didn't apply to the royal family because they were dragonriding valyrians.
And right now, they can, pretty much, get away with pretty much whatever the hell they want.

at least while the old king is alive.
 
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