Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest
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Oh boy, arguments where there are only 2 logical options are already heated. Can't imagine what will it be when you add something people actually like.
By my own OOC logic, I would vote Cult of Verena.
If I add a bit of feelings into it - then certainly We. Telepathic spider-librarians are just too good to pass up.
If I use my vision of Mathilde's IC - Orphans it is. They are loyal (which in my own opinion is very important quality by Grey wizard standart.). And they are certainly will remind Mathilde of her own past.
And there is Cython, who get my squeels of admiration for argument.
Guess I'll support Cython->We->Orphans->Cult votes in that order.
Let's start with
[X] Cython
And I will change it or approval vote, depending on situation.
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The original We is going to keep doing their thing, the option is for a splinter We that will develop independently. Sort of like a beehive swarming.
- Location
- Netherlands
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- She/Her
While I don't agree with mathy's point, I feel like this is a wild exaggeration and misinterpretation of what they're saying.
[X] The We
[X] Cult of Verena
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[x] The We
[X] Cython
Pretty much the only way we are getting an emperor Dragon to talk to us about the Project IMO, he needs a reason to stay awake. This is I will note a being personally older than the races of men elves and dwarfs, he might have met an Old One
[X] The We
This on the other hand is just a cool concept and way of integrating the newest civilized race into the world as more than silk producers and hunters.
Pretty much the only way we are getting an emperor Dragon to talk to us about the Project IMO, he needs a reason to stay awake. This is I will note a being personally older than the races of men elves and dwarfs, he might have met an Old One
[X] The We
This on the other hand is just a cool concept and way of integrating the newest civilized race into the world as more than silk producers and hunters.
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- He
Could also be kept in reserve as doomsday weapons. If Nagash re emerges or something like that.
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- He/Him
(Matheld)
Buys 8 power stones
Gives them 8 OoS
Refuses to elaborate
Leaves
- Location
- Earth
Why? Behind defenses that are built for a Dwarven Superweapon is a good place to store it.
Of course they'll want Orbs. Which they'll get for $insert_favor_here.
- Location
- Australia
There wouldn't happen to be any large number of literate Eonir willing to move to Eight Peaks, right?
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- He/Him
Probably my preferred options here. The Cult's priorities are almost exactly aligned to what we want, and the Dwarves are always a safe option for keeping everything in working order, so our carefully cultivated usability doesn't start to slip.
Also possible. No real demerit against them, other than the probably increased training time, since it doesn't sound like there is a pool of experienced librarians on tap.
God I do want this, but I think they are just too young in this Civilization thing. This is noted to take a lot of time for training, and I do not want to sacrifice that much AP at this point in Mathilde's life.
Gap
Not a Dog
- Location
- The Malleary
[X] Locals
My favorite option, Dragons are great and spiders are cool but I think this is the best for a popular library rather than a great one.
Also the locals live in a Karak, they understand and respect loyalty, even if not to Mathilde personally, but we have no need fot that in the library.
[] The We
Going to approve spiders. Really like them as eternal, efficient guardians. Though I dislike how it will take time for the commom person to get used to them. A library in which you read while nervous is not a good one.
My favorite option, Dragons are great and spiders are cool but I think this is the best for a popular library rather than a great one.
Also the locals live in a Karak, they understand and respect loyalty, even if not to Mathilde personally, but we have no need fot that in the library.
[] The We
Going to approve spiders. Really like them as eternal, efficient guardians. Though I dislike how it will take time for the commom person to get used to them. A library in which you read while nervous is not a good one.
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The Phoenixian
The Glacier Witch
- Location
- My own little world
The one other thing here that this update brings up.
Data points
The Dwarven Runesmiths know of it, and Runelore makes containing it safely trivial.
Laurelorn likely has a source of it (Font of magic far south of the poles, special crafters who obey guidelines that sound suspiciously like an amped up version of the human precautions for safe handling around it.)
Aetheric Vitae is a means of creating Orbs of Sorcery out of power stones.
Inference:
Teclis, and therefore Saphery/Ulthuan may have access to Aetheric Vitae. With this turn result, it's now the simplest explanation for the ability to produce them that isn't just "Wizarding Good."
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Related Question, on how Ulthuan may have got Waystones:
We know that waystones can create Dhar during operation. Can they create other, purer, combinations besides? (I admit this is a long shot, but it may be worth investigating if the vitae can replace the role of Dhar in a waystone style magic transmission to infer the possibility.)
Other prospects:
Laurelorn is in an area where the aether is brought close to reality by the soul of a forest.
If what we recently learned about Athel Loren is any indication and the Forest of Shadows are any indication, the presence of a lot of ley lines in the area may bolster the forest-soul.
Question:
Would any area with a strong Genius Loci, and strong flow of magic, thus also be able to support fonts of Vitae? (such as the Forest of Shadows, if it got had access to more magic restored)
Hmmm... Honestly, I wonder if there might be a process like "Bring ley line close to an area strongly dominated by a god or world-soul, use said influence to shunt into the aether sending any more on wards to the vortex, bring the aether close to reality as a result, harvest profits in the form of AV." Kislev thusly wouldn't have noticed because they would have the "problem" that any font they had made accidentally would be in the influence of their patron goddess, and thus sublimate.
Three possibilities: Do the power stones cut off the reaction before hitting the size of an Orb of Sorcery, are they not limited at that point, or is the size of Orb of sorcery itself defined by being the point where the reaction is no longer possible?
Upside: We may be able to reprise the role of bringing out a ton of useful stuff all at once, with the inherent question answered with the cherry on top.
Downside: We may end up getting Demon Checked again.
Data points
The Dwarven Runesmiths know of it, and Runelore makes containing it safely trivial.
Laurelorn likely has a source of it (Font of magic far south of the poles, special crafters who obey guidelines that sound suspiciously like an amped up version of the human precautions for safe handling around it.)
Aetheric Vitae is a means of creating Orbs of Sorcery out of power stones.
Inference:
Teclis, and therefore Saphery/Ulthuan may have access to Aetheric Vitae. With this turn result, it's now the simplest explanation for the ability to produce them that isn't just "Wizarding Good."
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Related Question, on how Ulthuan may have got Waystones:
We know that waystones can create Dhar during operation. Can they create other, purer, combinations besides? (I admit this is a long shot, but it may be worth investigating if the vitae can replace the role of Dhar in a waystone style magic transmission to infer the possibility.)
Other prospects:
Laurelorn is in an area where the aether is brought close to reality by the soul of a forest.
If what we recently learned about Athel Loren is any indication and the Forest of Shadows are any indication, the presence of a lot of ley lines in the area may bolster the forest-soul.
Question:
Would any area with a strong Genius Loci, and strong flow of magic, thus also be able to support fonts of Vitae? (such as the Forest of Shadows, if it got had access to more magic restored)
Hmmm... Honestly, I wonder if there might be a process like "Bring ley line close to an area strongly dominated by a god or world-soul, use said influence to shunt into the aether sending any more on wards to the vortex, bring the aether close to reality as a result, harvest profits in the form of AV." Kislev thusly wouldn't have noticed because they would have the "problem" that any font they had made accidentally would be in the influence of their patron goddess, and thus sublimate.
And this, right here, is why I'm wondering if we'll hit a snag in the operation.
Three possibilities: Do the power stones cut off the reaction before hitting the size of an Orb of Sorcery, are they not limited at that point, or is the size of Orb of sorcery itself defined by being the point where the reaction is no longer possible?
...Can I recommend we do this in the exact same turn we publish the Preliminary Paper on Aetheric Vitae?
Upside: We may be able to reprise the role of bringing out a ton of useful stuff all at once, with the inherent question answered with the cherry on top.
Downside: We may end up getting Demon Checked again.