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Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest

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Nurgle said:
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Ok about 50 years ago Drycha stole a divine artifact of Taal. Which weakens magic against the user and helps with shadow magic. If she has it on her I would not want to risk destroying it.
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Those effects assuming that Boney is following Total War on this.

Which he very well might not.
 
Nurgle said:
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Ok about 50 years ago Drycha stole a divine artifact of Taal. Which weakens magic against the user and helps with shadow magic. If she has it on her I would not want to risk destroying it.
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I don't think Taal would mind to much honestly. Better than her having it.
 
Sovereign Hunt said:
It's a stupid idea to go through with, but I still want it to be quest-canon that Mathilde genuinely considered binding fucking Drycha like an apparition familiar.

[x] Pursue
[x] Bind
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You know what, sure. I can go with this. Binding is incredibly cool and all, but I refuse to do an Alkaseltzer and go down like a chump because of it. But I also want to see Mathilde think about poking the dragon (wait, we already did that) playing Russian Soul Roulette.

[X] Dragonflask
[x] Bind
 
Hubris is a cowards word; advanced hubris, thus, is right up my alley. Forget the difficulty, trying this is absolutely worth the risk.

However, risk isn't the only factor here. While drycha is pretty awful, she is in fact a person, and slavery gets a hard pass from me. No matter how much I admire the gumption.

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Swantree said:
To be fair Qreek's circumstances are in the same tree of messed up.
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Qretch is a prisoner of war. We aren't exactly geneva compliant there, which is unsurprising considering the convention doesn't exist in universe and neither the Karaz Ankor nor the skaven are signatories to it in any case, but aside from the glaring issue of article 50 it's not too far off, nor especially inhumane otherwise. It is not the same.
 
Honestly, I'm just kinda curious what sort of favors Mathilde might get out of this whole situation or not. Putting aside killing Drycha, she still informed Kislev of the danger, brought multiple elite units to bear, pointed out the enemy scouts to be eliminated, thus leaving them horribly misinformed, and proceeded to counter An assassination attempt on the biggest gun by the enemy leader.

We've, uh, put in a lot of work. I wonder how the Kislevite favor system would work…
 
Previous WoG is that Mathilde's treatment of Qrech is so generous people would be questioning her loyalty if it wasn't undeniably effective.

Boney said:
This is a fine hair to split, but I think it's an important one: Qrech is a prisoner of war. He was an officer in the army of a nation that seeks the complete destruction of the Empire, and the only reason he has never directly contributed to that goal is that he was instead contributing to one of the Skavens' simultaneous wars with pretty much every other polity in the world. The work he does for Mathilde is voluntary, not onerous, and performed in exchange for comforts and luxuries; his basic needs would be met whether he cooperates or not. Modern perspectives can point to ways he could be better treated, but to an in-universe perspective Mathilde's treatment of Qrech has been incredibly generous, to the extent that if it were not for the intelligence she has been able to extract from him by doing so, some might start to question her loyalties.
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Does this forest have a guardian spirit that was countering Drycha? Or would she encounter such debuffs in any sufficiently magical forest she hasn't intentionally attuned herself to?
 
Okay, but consider, how funny do you think Ranald would find us trying to bind Drycha?

This seems like the sort of thing he'd love.

[x] Bind
[x] Pursue
[x] Counter
 
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Aule said:
Does this forest have a guardian spirit that was countering Drycha? Or would she encounter such debuffs in any sufficiently magical forest she hasn't intentionally attuned herself to?
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Hard to say, we have rather limited data.

The Forest of Shadows has enough presence to it (enough to have a liminal space, pretty sure those don't come standard) that I wouldn't be surprised if this was some sort of avatar of the Forest of Shadows taking issue with Drycha.

The other main possibility is Haletha, protector-goddess worshipped by some of the Hedgefolk and believed to be associated with the FoS.
 
Mopman43 said:
I think there's a fair bit of room between Qrech being our prisoner-for-life and mental enslavement.

If nothing else, he's inarguably got a better quality of life than the vast, vast majority of Skaven. Possibly better than literally all of them.
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What does binding entail? From people saying Drycha can still attack us I didn't assume brainwashing or enforced subservience, I assumed kinda like genies almost. You can order them around but nothing is exactly stopping them from killing you.

That still doesn't make Qrech exactly a good thing though, his circumstances entirely revolve around the fact that he is skaven, this wouldn't be possible for a human. His life is his prison, his knowledge of the world a lie he believes, and his self-determination moot.

I don't disagree that he does live the best life he can or that his life is great, comparative misery is just a terrible point. I guess circumstances just don't cancel each other out.

My point was that binding Drycha is not a heel turn for Mathilde, Qrech is a prisoner of war? (He was loot from a raid) The current life he has been living has lies in it's foundations, and through it he became invaluable. Mystical slaver is one interpretation, but the circumstances being that this is a battlefield, Drycha is participating in an assassination and that she has value to Mathilde alive makes it not so black and white.

Is there really nothing non-flammable in a dryad? They don't defecate diamonds, their eyes aren't emeralds, their shoes aren't made of rubber, their blood is flammable but produce green smoke when burnt?
 
French Cowboy said:
Okay, but consider, how funny do you think Ranald would find us trying to bind Drycha?

This seems like the sort of thing he'd love.
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I'm skeptical, actually. On the one hand, it has a lot of chutzpah, but on the other hand, I think Ranald probably wouldn't be that keen on literally enslaving someone to your soul, even someone awful like Drycha.

On the whole I think he'd come out neutral on it?
 
Just because we *can* bind Drycha doesn't mean we should.
Soul-enslavement of a sentient creature really does not feel like Mathilde's style, or the sort of thing that would even occur to her mid-combat.
 
Swantree said:
What does binding entail? From people saying Drycha can still attack us I didn't assume brainwashing or enforced subservience, I assumed kinda like genies almost. You can order them around but nothing is exactly stopping them from killing you.
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The only description we've had was for binding non-sapient apparitions.

I believe the description was something along the lines of, all apparitions have some kind of purpose- generally violent- and the binding works by making them think they're fulfilling it by following your direction.
 
Swantree said:
To be fair Qreek's circumstances are in the same tree of messed up.
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I'm assuming you mean our Skaven dude who I think has a slightly differently spelled name. But he's kinda a special case. Since he's got the Horned Rat with a grip on his soul. Its not his fault or anything, but he's too dangerous to be let out. Its a shitty situation, much like the Beastmen, Skaven, and the like. Their stuck in violent loops and due to the Gods in charge of them, there's virtually nothing to be done about them.
 
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