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Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest

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Swantree said:
So Drycha is not a worshipper, but she's at least knowingly participating in a plot right? The manticore is chaos only right?

But the elves are anti-chaos right? Isn't there a conflict of interest between elven genocide and anti-chaos? Also, who is "they" in "but they don't worship the Chaos Gods", her warband or wood spirits?
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Chaos didn't exist before the Elves. I'm pretty sure Drycha believes that killing the Elves will wipe out Chaos, because to her, they're the root of all problems in the world. I think she would also expand that to Dwarfs and humans if she's done with Elves.

When I say they don't worship the Chaos Gods, I'm talking about Drycha and Coeddil. For all I know there are Chaos worshipping spirits, but for the most part they don't worship the Chaos Gods.

Asrai are anti-Chaos in the sense that they care about the "weave", which is the balance of the world and its metaphysical nature, particularly that of their forest. That's why they're super isolationist. They're nominally on the "Forces of Order" bracket and will fight Chaos if they need to.
 
Swantree said:
So Drycha is not a worshipper, but she's at least knowingly participating in a plot right? The manticore is chaos only right?

But the elves are anti-chaos right? Isn't there a conflict of interest between elven genocide and anti-chaos? Also, who is "they" in "but they don't worship the Chaos Gods", her warband or wood spirits?
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Lots of armies can deploy manticores, they just magically bind them into service.

The dark elves also tame and breed manticores, which they consider to be symbols of Khaine's might.
 
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On the topic of "what are tree spirits", they're noted to be similar in general nature to daemons but not chaos/warp sourced, and in fact unnerved daemons during the first incursion such that they were wary of attacking areas heavy with the spirits.
 
Codex said:
Chaos didn't exist before the Elves. I'm pretty sure Drycha believes that killing the Elves will wipe out Chaos, because to her, they're the root of all problems in the world. I think she would also expand that to Dwarfs and humans if she's done with Elves.
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Depending on the source, at least some wood spirits are born of the first phase of the coming of Chaos, being the results of the increasingly dense Aethyric energy interacting with natural life. Athel Loren may predate the coming of chaos, but the spirits may not.
 
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Drycha is a stealth and ambush specialist and I am not remotely confident Mathilde can find and distract her. However Drycha has not survived so long and been such a nuisance to such powerful people by not picking her fights. She is waiting for an opportunity, a moment of weakness and confusion when she can blitz in and gank someone. The best way to neutralise her is to prevent any such opportunities from forming.
The spellcasters are a big but fragile threat that is not currently being engaged. We can wipe them off the field quickly and move to assist other fights.
 
zxzx24 said:
Are dryads really so weak a three to one advantage wont mean anything?

Cause fighting three on one is usually pretty bad.
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They are not weak, but they're spellcasters, and with a few exceptions (like Drycha), spellcasters aren't super powerful in melee. A surprise attack on them while they're distracted is the perfect opportunity. And honestly? Fighting Drycha is far more dangerous than three spellcasting Dryads/Branchwraiths.
 
zxzx24 said:
Are dryads really so weak a three to one advantage wont mean anything?

Cause fighting three on one is usually pretty bad.
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Hopefully, the element of surprise, Mathilde's skill as a murderblender, the Branchwraiths being distracted by their spellcasting and Branalhune will tip the balance in Mathilde's favor.
Don't envision Mathilde popping in within arms reach of them, that'd be bad planning.
Realistically, she'd probably teleport closeby, sneak up invisibly and bisect one of them.
2 to 1 odds while having a longer, devastating weapon is doable.

If she's lucky, she might get close enough to be able to get more than one of them within the arc of Branalhune, resulting in one dead and one wounded Branchwraiths, which will even the odds further.
 
There's something i'm wondering, what's Drycha's relationship with Athel Loren and would they care if Mathilde kills Drycha?
Was hoping this event does not cause any issues with bringing Athel Loren into the Waystone project later on.
 
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Angelform said:
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Drycha is a stealth and ambush specialist and I am not remotely confident Mathilde can find and distract her. However Drycha has not survived so long and been such a nuisance to such powerful people by not picking her fights. She is waiting for an opportunity, a moment of weakness and confusion when she can blitz in and gank someone. The best way to neutralise her is to prevent any such opportunities from forming.
The spellcasters are a big but fragile threat that is not currently being engaged. We can wipe them off the field quickly and move to assist other fights.
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I'm not seeing how engaging three Dryards and leaving us open to being attacked by Drycha while we are distracted is denying her opportunities to gank someone. Meanwhile Boris will be distracted by the Manticore and also gankable. The two Ice Witches are also pretty busy and could be ambushed.
 
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Jrin said:
There's something i'm wondering, what's Drycha's relationship with Athel Loren and they care if Mathilde kills Drycha?
Was hoping this event does not cause any issues with bringing Athel Loren into the Waystone project later on.
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Drycha is a mortal enemy of the current rulers of Athel Loren.
 
Jrin said:
There's something i'm wondering, what's Drycha's relationship with Athel Loren and they care if Mathilde kills Drycha?
Was hoping this event does not cause any issues with bringing Athel Loren into the Waystone project later on.
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She wants to kill them all. I would say they'd be grateful but I question if they're capable of such feelings. They'd likely not care.
 
Jrin said:
There's something i'm wondering, what's Drycha's relationship with Athel Loren and they care if Mathilde kills Drycha?
Was hoping this event does not cause any issues with bringing Athel Loren into the Waystone project later on.
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In general, getting Athel Loren into the Waystone Project seems like a pipe dream. They're not exactly open to collaboration.

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Seem like the safest bet to make areal difference.
Other would be going for the hidden leadership, but i'm not really so certain of our changes soloing them even from an ambush.
 
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Drycha is too much of a risk, both of failure and death. Woud rather let her get that first stab and chase her with our overwhelming army... or let her not appear at all, if she realizes she fucked up.
Better use this time to go after one force on this battlefield without a named character handling it.
 
Mopman43 said:
In general, getting Athel Loren into the Waystone Project seems like a pipe dream. They're not exactly open to collaboration.
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As a polity? Probably not. I do think they have some decent individuals though. Naieth the Prophetess seems quite reasonable. She argued with Orion so that he would save Karl Franz' life, which was an incredibly gutsy move because he seemed to briefly contemplate killing her for her temerity, but she succeeded and Franz was saved. People like that might be helpful, but I don't know if we can really seek them out.
 
zxzx24 said:
I looked stuff up and all the dryads talked about were fast melee units. So idk what's up with the spellcasters.

I dont think jumping into a three V one is going to be easier than a 1v1.
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This is Warhammer. It's like you're saying fighting three bloodletters is more dangerous than a single Bloodthirster. There's a power level difference here.

And yes, the spellcasters there are Branchwraiths, who are spellcasting Dryads. They're not normal Dryads. Regular Dryads are about as strong as a regular human soldier.
 
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