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Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest

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[X] Plan: Survey & Surcharge

[X] Plan: Saving Lives
-[X] Approach the hunting lodge Unfahigers
-[X] Plunder Krieglitz Manor
-[X] Research: Underworld Turbulence

Finding out what type of ritual would be helpful but not as helpful as finding the killer I think. This plan has Mathilde checking the hunting lodge members and helping them out and making sure they don't get killed.

Also we check out the Manor for anything dangerous. Since that will involve ransacking the place we may as well grab everything to cover our tracks (taking just the mysterious magic stuff is a pretty obvious pointer to wizards being involved). If we don't want to personally profit from that we can just dump the safe loot later or donate it to Shallya.

Then go on the offense and start looking into the underworld.
 
Glau said:
So, I was thinking about it, and I kinda want Mathilde to mince up a demon in front of Regimand just as casually as he owned her on the investigation section. He's never seen her with a great sword in her hands, had he?
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Was he there for her Magister exams? I think that's the only time he might have seen her actually fighting. Or maybe practice that time he visited Eight Peaks.
 
Glau said:
So, I was thinking about it, and I kinda want Mathilde to mince up a demon in front of Regimand just as casually as he owned her on the investigation section. He's never seen her with a great sword in her hands, had he?
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Mathilde: "I can take it!"
*rolls a 4, gets swatted*
*daemon one-shotted by Alric's Light spell*
Regimand (unimpressed): "Apprentice, you have guns. Try shooting it next time."
 
silentorphan said:
Except it cost Mathilde, as the acting overall commander of the armed forces at the time, the rest of her magical support, since it basically whittled down her magic-using coterie down to just herself. And she still had to go besiege Castle Drakenhof at the time. The end result was a massive win, as it turned out that just herself was enough, but that still doesn't excuse the need for an accounting.

On the other hand, Algard did mention asking for some answers afterward, so maybe Mathilde can just go bother her own Magister Patriarch instead?
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If either of those people felt it was something Mathilde needed to know, she'd already know it. "I'm annoyed by and curious about this" doesn't qualify, unfortunately.

Jyn Ryvia said:
So trying to stay hush hush about the whole thing will definitely limit our search power, so getting more detail will be a must if we don't just go 'fuck it, going loud!'
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Not necessarily a must, but it would certainly help.
 
[x] Plan: Ritual Centre
-[x] Surveil the spa Unfahigers
-[x] Surveil the hunting lodge Unfahigers
-[x] Research: Alberich's life

would prefer to approach the Lodge members, but that doesn't seem to be in the cards.
 
[x] Plan: Ritual Centre with Disguised Approach
-[x] Surveil the spa Unfahigers
-[x] Approach the hunting lodge Unfahigers in disguise
--[x] Specifically approach with Regimand disguised as a pair of mercenaries willing to offer protection services
-[x] Research: Alberich's life
 
[X] Plan: Ritual Centre with Disguised Approach

Seems like it should be more productive.

[X] Plan: Ritual Centre
[X] Plan Info
[X] Plan: Survey & Surcharge
[X] Plan Dig Up Info + Deniable Looting
 
The more I think about it, the more I want to know more about Alric himself. I'd kind of like to investigate Alric to know how he's likely to react if we came to him with an offer of collaboration.

I'm not sure if we already discussed him enough with Horstmann and others to really know if collaboration is unsafe. I mean, I know there is already plenty of text about Alric so I'm not sure it would be worth it...
 
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Sparsebeard said:
The more I think about it, the more I want to know more about Alric himself. I'd kind of like to investigate Alric to know how he's likely to react if we came to him with an offer of collaboration.

I'm not sure if we already discussed him enough with Horstmann and others to really know if collaboration is unsafe. I mean, I know there is already plenty of text about Alric so I'm not sure it would be worth it...
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We have plenty of text from Ergrim, but that is not in any way shape of form unbiased, it is still our choice if we think Alric is going to throw us under the bus as soon as look at us or work together for the good of the empire.
 
Man as a forensic major do I LOVE me a good murder mystery. Screw the waystones. LET'S SOLVE CRIMES. Now my plan means nothing to the thread, nor will it get any other votes, but I like to make things spicy. We have just finished examining the crime scene, and while we don't have any evidence to send back to the lab we do have people we can question. So obviously we need their statements. Whether or not they remember giving them to us is not our concern since we don't have a trial date.
[X] Plan Interrogation Station
-[X] Bring in someone else: specify who: Elspeth
-[X] Interrogate the spa Unfahigers
-[X] Interrogate the hunting lodge Unfahigers

I'm added bringing in Elspeth because, as my few posts have mentioned, I want us to do more with the Amethyst College. And what better way to get her interested than a murder ghost. I have faith that the thread will one day bring us closer to them/necromancy glory but I am a patient man.
 
Boney said:
kingreaper said:
Also, it seems like Approaching them would allow us to get the same awareness of the ritual's presence as surveiling them would - is that correct?
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Yes.
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With that information, let's approach them.

[X] Plan: Ritual Centre with Approach
-[x] Surveil the spa Unfahigers
-[x] Approach the hunting lodge Unfahigers
-[x] Research: Alberich's life

[x] Plan: Ritual Centre
[x] Plan: Ritual Centre with Disguised Approach
 
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Boney said:
Somehow, it's the ones in normal paper with regular ink handwriting that unnerve you more than those made of all too identifiable vellum and parchment and written in blood.
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What's normal paper made of? Closest I could find looking in the thread was this post, but neither papyrus nor wood pulp sound to me like what it'd be.

Boney said:
If this is just one very specific cross-section of the dark rituals available, it's a miracle the Empire ever isn't swarming with Daemons and vengeful ghosts and everything in between.
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Misplaced word.

Codex said:
Not very fond of College Politics. No wonder Regimand never strived for more than he had. He's definitely not the type to have enjoyed all the maneuvering that Mathilde had to do for her project. As a matter of fact, Mathilde didn't enjoy the manuevering, but she's ambitious and views it as necessary for her goals.
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Is it unusual for someone involved in college politics to be ambitious, view it as necessary for their goals, and to derive no enjoyment from the manoeuvring?
 
Andres said:
Is it unusual for someone involved in college politics to be ambitious, view it as necessary for their goals, and to derive no enjoyment from the manoeuvring?
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It's more normal for those kinds of people to only do the bare minimum. Here Mathilde is going beyond what's required of her--she can just leave, having fulfilled her obligation to Mira, but college politics in the sense of "let's not have the Light Patriarch know the Empress' secret" is keeping her here.
 
Andres said:
What's normal paper made of? Closest I could find looking in the thread was this post, but neither papyrus nor wood pulp sound to me like what it'd be.
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I think the implication here is that the "all too identifiable parchment and vellum" was not referring to sheep or goat skin, but rather human skin parchment. It's pretty identifiable, and it's a signature move from many crazed wizards and ritualists.
Andres said:
Is it unusual for someone involved in college politics to be ambitious, view it as necessary for their goals, and to derive no enjoyment from the manoeuvring?
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Perhaps it isn't unusual, but I can see there being people who enjoy the political scene for the level of power it grants them. Not everyone is altruistic in their motives and wants to improve the world strings free. Even the College's vetting isn't going to remove all manner of selfish behavior. In fact, selfish behavior and personal vices are encourages as long as it benefits or doesn't hinder the Empire and deprives the enemy of resources that could be used.
 
Codex said:
I think the implication here is that the "all too identifiable parchment and vellum" was not referring to sheep or goat skin, but rather human skin parchment. It's pretty identifiable, and it's a signature move from many crazed wizards and ritualists.
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I went and looked up human skin books on wikipedia (anthropodermic bibliopegy) and it's apparently a lot less common than I thought it was. Doesn't go earlier than the 19th century. I mean I knew it was less common than in 40k but it seems like such an obvious thing that it would've been done more often.
 
Andres said:
I went and looked up human skin books on wikipedia (anthropodermic bibliopegy) and it's apparently a lot less common than I thought it was. Doesn't go earlier than the 19th century. I mean I knew it was less common than in 40k but it seems like such an obvious thing that it would've been done more often.
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Most people that skin human beings aren't likely to be using that skin to make books.

EDIT: Also, probably not the sort of topic you want the thread to go down.
 
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