I say that this protectorate have a monarch sort of like a puppet they sometimes do that in Real life
Who Needs Harmony?: An MLP Empire Quest
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[X] Plan Neighpon, Economy and Protectorates
After double checking all the actions I think I'll have to pick this one as my preferred choice, even if I'd rather it had found a way to replace something with Crystal Forests. Other than that I definitely like the more economic/diplomatic focus it has. I was mildly concerned about going into flying fortresses so soon after intervening into the civil war.
After double checking all the actions I think I'll have to pick this one as my preferred choice, even if I'd rather it had found a way to replace something with Crystal Forests. Other than that I definitely like the more economic/diplomatic focus it has. I was mildly concerned about going into flying fortresses so soon after intervening into the civil war.
Hey guy I have a serious question if the gods do exist then who created this world like who is the One True God
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... Ok, I will admit that in my reading I have not technically yet reached this point of the quest, even if I read the latest updates, but...
Are you sure you aren't overestimating how much high the chance to get the entire country as a protectorate is?
What was said by the QM, from my perspective, seemed to imply more of a long term effort, and a costly one at that, both in resources and number of actions, which is problematic due to how random events are a constant in the quest.
And that may simply not be worth it at the end of the day.
In contrast, the intrigue action to basically get the abolitionist as a protectorate would probably only take a few turns to achieve a smaller goal, but one that would be a lot less problematic to handle.
And I think that's something that should not be mostly ignored like it seems to me right now.
Are you sure you aren't overestimating how much high the chance to get the entire country as a protectorate is?
What was said by the QM, from my perspective, seemed to imply more of a long term effort, and a costly one at that, both in resources and number of actions, which is problematic due to how random events are a constant in the quest.
And that may simply not be worth it at the end of the day.
In contrast, the intrigue action to basically get the abolitionist as a protectorate would probably only take a few turns to achieve a smaller goal, but one that would be a lot less problematic to handle.
And I think that's something that should not be mostly ignored like it seems to me right now.
It's never been denied that a larger Protectorate would be more difficult and require more micromanagement over a longer period of time but the general consensus is that it would be worth it and that it is genuinely good for the people of Maretonia
Conversely while a smaller protectorate would be easier to handle we'd get less from it, it would be an obvious land grab, it would force us to split our attention between helping to rebuild our new protectorate or the rest of Maretonia and it would piss off all the other Maretonians
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Thing is, this general consensus is based on nothing, so it may be completely wrong.
We just do not have a reference from which draw some parallelisms (the crystal kingdom was in a too specific situation to be usable as one).
This is mostly like trying a shot in the dark twice: once to see if you have the resources and actions to spare at the right time, and the other to see if that will be enough to win the hearth of the ponies, which I think it is probably not a guarantee.
I mean it is based on something, primarily the fact that control over all of Maretonia would mean more land, more resources, a larger workforce and access to even more varied forms of magic
Of course we can't be sure how difficult dealing with the protectorate will actually be but that's true for just about anything we could do
I disagree, there are definitely notable differences between the two situations but they do share enough similarities to give us a decent idea of how things will go, most noticeably that they're both countries that have been left completely ravaged with no government or economy that owe the end of their suffering to the Empire and would significantly struggle to rebuild without our help
Except we're one of the largest economies on the planet, which means we will almost certainly have the necessary resources to spare, and we have proven to be very good at winning hearts and minds, especially when most of the largest group in the country already likes us
Another note, splitting Maretonia WILL NOT make ANY FREINDS, especially since we would be snatching up the good mostly untouched lands and leaving the others to flounder trying to rebuild with possibly opportunist dragons down south, and they almost certainly be people, especially those in positions of power knowing that we are partly to blame for their current situation. And if we still manage to maneuver things so they all become a protectorate, they would still be wary because we split them up and assimilated the most intact land.
Markala
Hannor & Polycho Shipper
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Hey @Black.Horus, @Wing101 & @SufficientEnergy, since it doesn't seem that my plan [] Plan: Not Neglecting Your Buddies Retitled ft More Revenue v3 will be much of a winner so I've decided to vote for one of the two frontrunners, just letting you know since I well, made the plan. It's cool that you thought my plan was adequate, ty. <3
[X] Plan Calm Water's
Listen this is the only plan in the running with Gawain hanging with the whole scooby gang, and by Tartarus we're gonna fight tooth and nail for it!
EDIT: Okay shit, me and my airheadedness accidentally deleted the original post with the whole plan vote (*my prev vote) on it if you still wanna vote it, there is a template on an old planning post (Who Needs Harmony?: An MLP Empire Quest) for it if you need a ref to copy-paste for it to count, but I don't recommend it (the plan I mean). Sorry.
[X] Plan Calm Water's
Listen this is the only plan in the running with Gawain hanging with the whole scooby gang, and by Tartarus we're gonna fight tooth and nail for it!
EDIT: Okay shit, me and my airheadedness accidentally deleted the original post with the whole plan vote (*my prev vote) on it if you still wanna vote it, there is a template on an old planning post (Who Needs Harmony?: An MLP Empire Quest) for it if you need a ref to copy-paste for it to count, but I don't recommend it (the plan I mean). Sorry.
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No, our deal with them was that they'd work with/for us and in exchange we wouldn't compromise their autonomy nor would we annex Maretonia, which is different from being a protectorate
However even if we had promised that it wouldn't really matter because the College almost immediately collapsed after that and didn't fulfil their end of the bargain so the deal is null and void
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Jam jar binks
Thing Futzer
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[X] Plan Calm Water's
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That was mainly for the upcoming war for the yetis and just in case for the dragons. I don't think their going to be sitting on their mountain pickin their noses forever.
Dr.Degenerate
The Resident Furry
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[X] Plan Neighpon, Economy and Protectorates
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- Florida
Not too upset about the leading vote kept maybe for the synergy with the shrine gah 
A reason I was putting in the crystal forest I don't think has been brought up is that it'd be easier to rebuild Maretonia after everything they've been through with the easier to access lumber. Lotta homes have been demolished and it'd be goodwill towards the crystal ponies and by proxy us as well.
A reason I was putting in the crystal forest I don't think has been brought up is that it'd be easier to rebuild Maretonia after everything they've been through with the easier to access lumber. Lotta homes have been demolished and it'd be goodwill towards the crystal ponies and by proxy us as well.
The only thing I am dissappointed on the leading votes are that of non Gilda votes. We have been neglecting her lately and with her becoming 18 years old that Tournament would be perfect of her coming of age.
It has been a long while, so I might've misremembered, but I'm still in the memory that to get the mages to join up with the royal guard and abandon White Star we promised both agreeing in not lowering their influence and to not splintering Maretonia/Maretonia losing land. Do you remember differently?
I'd say it's not exactly fair to say that we've been ignoring Gilda since this is only the second turn that that option has been a thing and on turn 29 we took the action to find her a hobby
In fact if we're going to argue that any of our children have been ignored recently, which I don't think any of them have, it would be Gwyndlyn
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I do feel like Gilda tends to get the short end of on screen attention. At least Gwyndlyn has a speaking role within the quest...
My God! The Imperial Creed was right!? Garrick really is the God-Emperor of Griffon kind!
"The Emperor was a brilliant merchant, a powerful warrior, and great leader, but he was a terrible father..."
Princess Gilda probably...
Meme's aside maybe we should do something nice for our family, like make a national holiday and just spend a turn doing all the family stuff.
"The Emperor was a brilliant merchant, a powerful warrior, and great leader, but he was a terrible father..."
Princess Gilda probably...
Meme's aside maybe we should do something nice for our family, like make a national holiday and just spend a turn doing all the family stuff.