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Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest

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Jyn Ryvia said:
we might have gotten a political swap-ahroo done to us.
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I... doubt it. That would be pissing off a Lady Magister of another college for no apparent reason, when said LM is attempting to build bridges.

Like, if she wanted to get one of 'her people' on the project she could just do that. No need for trickery.

And the bonus of 'if she pisses Mathilde off getting her person on the project Mathilde can just take them off the project' factor.

It just wouldn't make sense. Not to mention that getting Horstmann there would be a win for her anyways, because her rival loses what is apparently his primary gopher.
 
Jyn Ryvia said:
while I hope this:



was just wizards being wizards; She at no point promised that it would be Egrimm van Horstmann that would meet us.

we might have gotten a political swap-ahroo done to us.

the fact that we had the coin on it is worrying as well.
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It is not like we are obligated to take whatever they give us. We could just refuse any other wizard at out leisure. That is what being head of the Branch means
 
[x] Belegar Ironhammer
[x] Kazrik and the Dwarves of Karak Azul
[x] Dreng, Clan Huzkul, and the Cult of Grimnir
[x] Panoramia, Hluodwica, and the Halflings
 
Interesting update! Couple things to potentially fix:
BoneyM said:
"At least." You hadn't mentioned the Hedgwise, after all.
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*Hedgewise.
BoneyM said:
You had hoped that you could move skilfully enough to encircle and thus control a strand anyway, but when after hours of concentration you finally manage to entrap a strand of Ghyran so it can't slip free from the web you have built around it, its thrashing attempts bring it directly into contact with the Ulgu and a bloom of Dhar forms and begins to spread, slowly but interminably.
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Pretty sure you want *inevitably here. Since "interminably" is this:
Definition of interminable
: having or seeming to have no end
especially : wearisomely protracted
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So as written that parses out as more or less "slowly but wearisomely slowly." Which doesn't seem right.
 
GrimTheMad said:
I... doubt it. That would be pissing off a Lady Magister of another college for no apparent reason, when said LM is attempting to build bridges.

Like, if she wanted to get one of 'her people' on the project she could just do that. No need for trickery.

And the bonus of 'if she pisses Mathilde off getting her person on the project Mathilde can just take them off the project' factor.

It just wouldn't make sense. Not to mention that getting Horstmann there would be a win for her anyways, because her rival loses what is apparently his primary gopher.
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DragonParadox said:
It is not like we are obligated to take whatever they give us. We could just refuse any other wizard at out leisure. That is what being head of the Branch means
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Depends on who she sends. (if she does so)

a random Journeyman there only there to be her eyes? yes, dump that fucker.

A Magister who was actually studying such things independently for years and is actually super excited to join? and doesn't know that, no, Mathy didn't want him/her?

that's a bit harder of a situation, especially if they are the type of person we would not want to offend.

(like, I know I'm being paranoid, but swap arounds are a thing in governments or colleges, at higher levels even more than lower, and we don't know how much of a knife fight light order politics are.)
 
Jyn Ryvia said:
Depends on who she sends. (if she does so)

a random Journeyman there only there to be her eyes? yes, dump that fucker.

A Magister who was actually studying such things independently for years and is actually super excited to join? and doesn't know that, no, Mathy didn't want him/her?

that's a bit harder of a situation, especially if they are the type of person we would not want to offend.

(like, I know I'm being paranoid, but swap arounds are a thing in governments or colleges, at higher levels even more than lower, and we don't know how much of a knife fight light order politics are.)
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The thing is it would be unreasonable to her to assume we would care. Any switch is her using a lot of political favor potentially for nothing if the response is a polite 'fuck off' to her agent. It would just not be a very clever move.
 
[X] Edda and the Cult of Valaya
[X] Gotri, the K8P Air Corps, and the Cult of Morgrim
[X] Johann and the Cult of Grungni
[X] Max and the Cult of Smednir
[X] Dreng, Clan Huzkul, and the Cult of Grimnir
[X] Panoramia, Hluodwica, and the Halflings

So will we get Egrimm? I didn't catch exactly what Mira said, with her metaphor. Does she mean that no Light wizard is irreplaceable/unique and that we will get one who isn't Egrimm?
 
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[x] Belegar Ironhammer

I might come back to edit in two more votes. I wanted to vote for the halflings and Ulrikadrin, but I realized that it's the local EIC branch's job to wrangle the Ulrikadrin instead, and if Eike wants to know more about halflings, she just has to spend some time at the Moot.
 
[X] Kazrik and the Dwarves of Karak Azul
[x] Belegar Ironhammer
[X] Panoramia, Hluodwica, and the Halflings

I agree on introducing Eike to Edda and the Halflings to acclimatize her to different perspectives.

As for third option, I prefer Kazrik over Belegar because I think she'd find him more personable and opens up a new market for the EIC in Azul.

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Switched Edda to Belegar as I was convinced she has less utility in comparison.
 
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Resonant said:
[X] Kazrik and the Dwarves of Karak Azul
[X] Edda and the Cult of Valaya
[X] Panoramia, Hluodwica, and the Halflings

I agree on introducing Eike to Edda and the Halflings to acclimatize her to different perspectives.

As for third option, I prefer Kazrik over Belegar because I think she'd find him more personable and opens up a new market for the EIC in Azul.
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The eleven year old is not going to be opening up any markets. This is not about what she can do as Eike is a kid and can do nothing of note. It is about what she learns from interactions
 
Briefvoice said:
Can't believe Belebro is coming in 4th. How is he not number one, seriously?
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Because it's not about "who is our favourite dwarf" it's "who would be a good idea for the 11 year old heiress of an international trade guild to meet." Kazrik and Edda simply offer more approachable insights to dwarf culture as a whole that will be potentially more useful.

Personally, I think adding Gotri due to his status as a radical is also super important, as is Pan and the Halflings due to the fact that they control the single most important resource in the world—food.
 
[X] Kragg the Grim

Time to nudge about grandkids apprentices. Role reversal!

[X] Edda and the Cult of Valaya

Initially I wasn't sure about this, but the cult of Valaya clinched it for me. Eike worships Shaylla and they go well together.

[X] Panoramia, Hluodwica, and the Halflings
[X] Kazrik and the Dwarves of Karak Azul

Edit - damn phoneposting
 
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[X] Kazrik and the Dwarves of Karak Azul
[X] Edda and the Cult of Valaya
[X] Francesco, Soizic, and the Undumgi
 
Nerdasaurus Rex said:
Personally, I think adding Gotri due to his status as a radical is also super important, as is Pan and the Halflings due to the fact that they control the single most important resource in the world—food.
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The halflings do not "control" food. There are lots and lots of human farmers.

And I think making an aquaintance with Belegar is the single most important contact Eike could make. Contacts are everything in the merchant world, and even the most passing acquaintance with a king is worth a whole lot.
 
Fayhem said:
Pretty sure you want *inevitably here. Since "interminably" is this:

So as written that parses out as more or less "slowly but wearisomely slowly." Which doesn't seem right.
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Interminably is fine. The definition I would go with is:
Existing or occurring without interruption or end.
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Think in terms of terminating a computer process, or a science experiment. There's no aspect of 'slowly' when we think of termination in that context.
 
The3rdCorinthian said:
Control the Moot. Nigh on the same thing in Stirland. Makes a lot of people very unhappy.
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The difference is that the Halflings didn't come up unto abandoned land and start farming. Stirland and Averland had their most fertile lands taken from them and their people evicted by Ludwig the Fat to create the Moot, just because his Halfling chef had made the best meal of his life and the daughters of said provinces' Elector Counts had snubbed him.
 
Briefvoice said:
The halflings do not "control" food. There are lots and lots of human farmers.

And I think making an aquaintance with Belegar is the single most important contact Eike could make. Contacts are everything in the merchant world, and even the most passing acquaintance with a king is worth a whole lot.
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Yes, but it is Halflings who have the reputation for farming and cooking, Halflings who have a high priestess of a harvest goddess, and the Halflings who have a jade wizard slowly turning miles of barren wasteland into fertile farmland. If you want to convince somebody who is set to inherit the EIC of the importance of their work, show them the experts who manage the most valuable resource in the world.

As for Belegar, she's 11. She's not looking for contacts. She needs insights into the cultures of her existing trade partners. If it was contacts she needs, we could take her to altdorf to meet the empress, but that wouldn't make her understand her role any better.
 
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