Voted best in category in the Users' Choice awards.
[X] Loremaster-at-Large of Karak Eight Peaks
[X] Border Princess of the Howling River

Much like Mathilde, I like the dwarves.
 
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While I have already stated my primary reason for voting Markgraf (I quite like Roswita), I do have more reasons. I think that Sylvania offers a unique strategic importance to the empire- the ability to close off a hostile front. As it stands, Sylvania is essentially hostile territory that directly threatens four Counties. I have a hard time imagining that Averland, for example, doesn't keep forces on the border since Vampiric armies can get going quickly. If we can accomplish our goal of removing the threat of vampires, I imagine that would not only free up forces in Stirland but also in neighboring counties.

With regards to side projects, we have been offered quite a lot of freedom- whatever it takes to get rid of the vampire menace. When we get rid of the current active vampires, I think we could split our time between making sure more don't rise and research. This is also where I think waystones come in- I am not saying this is a prerequisite for the project or anything, I just think it would be easier to negotiate if we have a title of some importance and waystones in land we own. I also like the narrative of literally cleaning up the place we were born and solving the necromancy problem by repairing the waystones. The best way for waystones, is, of course, to vote waystone, I just think Markgraf-> Waystone flows well narrative-wise.

[X ] Loremaster-at-Large of Karak Eight Peaks

[X ] Border Princess of the Howling River



Much like Mathilde, I like the dwarves.
I am afraid you need to remove the space in your vote for it to be counted.
 
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"I've no doubt," he says slowly, "that your manling craft has uses for the substance. But every drop you could spare would be of great value to the descendants of Thungni."

[1 gallon of Vitae expended on experimentation]

mmm...

Aethyric Vitae Warp Snake juice: When the energy of the warp goes straight from the unreality of the Warp to an area where reality is largely uncompromised, instead of disintegrating into the Winds it condenses into a liquid. It can be converted to more conventional energies with the exposure of any of the Winds to break it into large and equal amounts of all eight Winds, or can be converted entirely into Dhar by exposure to Morrsleib or Warpstone. Currently, the only known source is a Wisdom's Asp caught inside a mirror-trap box under unknown but very unlikely circumstances.

mmmmmmm....

Sotek the Deliverer, is the God Warp entity of War and Serpents snakes and one of the most infamous Gods of the Lizardmen of Lustria.

You know, maybe a trip to swamptown can be productive even if we don't make friends with the lizards...

Note: this comment offer no opinion on the practicalities involved in this endeavour.

EDIT: top four votes are 255/253/253/245, that's one hell of a close run.
 
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FWIW, if we take the Waystone project, I think that a few turns down the line would be an excellent time to go to Nagarythe, flip Protector on, and try to get the attention of someone who can help us out with the Waystones -- it'd represent like 4 AP, 3 for the actual time spend in Nagarythe and 1 for travel to and from Ulthuan. I just profoundly don't want to go to Nagarythe right now, which is why I'm not voting for it.
While I think this is true given that it's one of the current options it would also likely represent a serious digression from the Waystone project in narrative terms and I think BoneyM will likely veto it for a goodlong while just on the principle that if we wanted to go to Nagarythe now is explicitly the time to vote for doing it, not trying to finagle doing it by way of the Waystone project. Also it's probably unlikely to work (at least the Protector angle; we're going to be clear on the other side of Ulthuan from the major magical institution).

Maybe if we get lucky and have already established ourselves as being knowledgeable (for a human) in terms of Waystones (so something like ~10+ turns down the line of the project).
 
While I think this is true given that it's one of the current options it would also likely represent a serious digression from the Waystone project in narrative terms and I think BoneyM will likely veto it for a goodlong while just on the principle that if we wanted to go to Nagarythe now is explicitly the time to vote for doing it, not trying to finagle doing it by way of the Waystone project. Also it's probably unlikely to work (at least the Protector angle; we're going to be clear on the other side of Ulthuan from the major magical institution).
Oh yeah; to be clear, I am thinking about something like 4-6 months of real time down the line. Enough time for us to settle into an equilibrium and be ready for a change of pace into another adventure. Definitely not saying right away.

(Tangent: of the four leading options, I'd say that Waystones has the greatest ease taking time later on to go to Nagarythe, Bodyguard and Loremaster-at-large less so but still a fair amount given that those jobs are about putting out the fire of the year, and Markgraf the least because of our responsibility is to fight the crisis in front of us, not the one in Ulthuan.)

With regard to the Protector, I agree that the elves who know most about Waystones are in the wrong part of Ulthuan to directly get pinged. I still think it would be useful, though, because of favor-trading. If a high-up Shadow Warrior is impressed by us and feels they owe us, we can leverage their connections to other notables of Ulthuan we wouldn't be able to access on our own. At least, I think it's plausible enough to be worth a shot if we pick Waystones.
 
Adhoc vote count started by naths on Mar 7, 2021 at 12:12 PM, finished with 2352 posts and 530 votes.
 
[x] Markgraf of Eastern Stirland
[x] Count of Sylvania
[x] Governor-General of Swamp Town
[x] Border Princess of the Howling River
 
This is an absolutely horrid practice.

Not only is it an implicit admission that there are no more arguments to be made on the merits in favour of your position, or against the merits of the positions you do not want selected, but it also actively hides preferences in a voting system by presenting a false dichotomy that radicalizes the positions. "I know you are fine with A, B and C, but since B is currently winning you totally should forgo voting on A and C, so that D doesn't get selected."
All the while the vote is still ongoing, thereby ignoring the fact that neither B or D might end up winning a fair vote.

It is just short of stealing votes, and at best leads to active misrepresentation of the preferences of the voting base.
And then on top of this, it opens the doors of free market to purchase votes on any given vote.

For your first point: I freely admit that I have no arguments that will change someone of the "merit" of my choice :V. From my point of view this has mostly been a "What is your favourite colour?"-kinda decision from the start.

I do not understand your second part at all though. Right now people are trying to get the benefits of ranked choice for themselves by abusing the unlimited vote switching allowed by this forum. They could achieve the same in a way that does not require as much time and generates less empty posts by communicating. Doing so would also hide less information. Right now each of the top votes has a chunk of strategic votes that will disappear as soon as the situtation changes. Each matching pair of voters that make a trade would bring the shown number closer to the amount of true supporters.

I understand that y'all are worried about slippery slope stuff though. I just want to note that there is a genuine, metaphorical baby involved in the situation.
 
Also we've broken the vote record again now. There are 2170 people watching the thread maybe we can get to the mythical 1000 voters?
Have you seen the tag cloud? This thread has dominated it since last night and now there is only Asoiaf and Worm tags that is not from this thread.
 
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