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[X] Loremaster-at-Large of Karak Eight Peaks
[X] Spymaster of Wissenland
[X] Bodyguard and Tutor to Prince Mandred
[X] Ranaldian High Priest of Kislev
[X] Research Sabbatical
 
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Dude, lying about your name and profile is not rape. Else one-night stands on tinder would be rape. She's also no more a liar than us, just that she's been at this longer. As for exploiting for her own ends, Ranald asked her to do this, and she went along with it.

A) Tinder's skeevy as fuck and I do consider a lot of the behavior that it has normalized to be actually pretty morally screwed up.
B) Even if you don't believe A is true, if you can't see the difference between a one-night stand between mutually horny people who probably don't even care about the backgrounds of the other person as compared to marrying and raising a child with someone, I don't even know what to say to that other than WTF?

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C) People are allowed to place whatever emphasis on whatever part of a person's character they'd damn well like to give or withhold consent. It doesn't have to be something you agree with or like.
 
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I'm not, someone told me to give an example of a tipping point, you know the part of a wider pattern that would push us over the edge.

Also if we have gotten to the point where you interpret my arguments with the words hurr durr it is probably just best for both of us to stop talking.
Except we could leave before that tipping point, and using that as an argument for why not, isn't very valid. The elves and dwarves on Waystone have a disagreement and it escalates to war because of grudges and enmities isn't likely but it's just as possible if the dice don't like us. That's not a valid reason to not vote Waystone.

And as for the hurr durr, admittedly not very polite but at this point, you're going around in circles and not arguing in good faith at all. You'll respond to being challenged on A with B and on being challenged on B with A and also throw in C somewhere in there. And on being challenged on those will respond with B.
 
Except we could leave before that tipping point, and using that as an argument for why not, isn't very valid. The elves and dwarves on Waystone have a disagreement and it escalates to war because of grudges and enmities isn't likely but it's just as possible if the dice don't like us. That's not a valid reason to not vote Waystone.

And as for the hurr durr, admittedly not very polite but at this point, you're going around in circles and not arguing in good faith at all. You'll respond to being challenged on A with B and on being challenged on B with A and also throw in C somewhere in there. And on being challenged on those will respond with B.

Look I do not think I have been arguing not in good faith, but this has been going very fast. What has struck you as being not in good faith about my conduct?
 
If we fight her and fail somehow, is there a chance we get turned into a vampire?

I'm sure if we can't fight and kill Neferata 1 vs 1. I think she is likely to easily defeat us if we sneak on her alone. As far as I understand, even if she isn't Abhorrash or Vlad, she is way more powerful then that Necrah vampire that almost killed us.

Now, a dragon and a council of wizards and a big army could deal with her forever or at least scare her away I think.
 
I do not think she could have that much of an impact. She is not a Slann.
I think it is much easier to blow things up that to put them together. Or, to use a different perspective, it would be extraordinarily unlikely for a generic person with no more than wikipedia understanding of nuclear physics, to successfully build or operate a nuclear power plant or bomb.

However, said generic person could very easily explode a nuclear power plant by accident, or at least cause major damage to it, if they were allowed unrestricted access to it. Especially if they started doing things without knowing - or worse, half-knowing what they were doing.
 
B) Even if you don't believe A is true, if you can't see the difference between a one-night stand between mutually horny people who probably don't even care about the backgrounds of the other person as compared to marrying and raising a child with someone, I don't even know what to say to that other than WTF?
It's messed up, but it isn't rape. I'm not saying what Heidi did was moral, but it isn't rape.
 
I'm sure if we can't fight and kill Neferata 1 vs 1. I think she is likely to easily defeat us if we sneak on her alone. As far as I understand, even if she isn't Abhorrash or Vlad, she is way more powerful then that Necrah vampire that almost killed us.

Now, a dragon and a council of wizards and a big army could deal with her forever or at least scare her away I think.
What makes you think that she would not have big army with plenty of wizards of her own ?
 
I think it is much easier to blow things up that to put them together. Or, to use a different perspective, it would be extraordinarily unlikely for a generic person with no more than wikipedia understanding of nuclear physics, to successfully build or operate a nuclear power plant or bomb.

However, said generic person could very easily explode a nuclear power plant by accident, or at least cause major damage to it, if they were allowed unrestricted access to it. Especially if they started doing things without knowing - or worse, half-knowing what they were doing.

I think if the Vortex could be destroyed remotely by fucking with a Waystone in the boonies of the Empire it would have been done on purpose by Chaos or Morathi by now.
 
Except we could leave before that tipping point, and using that as an argument for why not, isn't very valid. The elves and dwarves on Waystone have a disagreement and it escalates to war because of grudges and enmities isn't likely but it's just as possible if the dice don't like us. That's not a valid reason to not vote Waystone.

And as for the hurr durr, admittedly not very polite but at this point, you're going around in circles and not arguing in good faith at all. You'll respond to being challenged on A with B and on being challenged on B with A and also throw in C somewhere in there. And on being challenged on those will respond with B.

I'm arguing in perfectly good faith, dude. I don't know why you think otherwise, or why you're acting incredibly rude, but I'd prefer if you cut that shit out.
 
I really can't understand where this characterization of Heidi comes from.

Climbing up the social ladder to it's highest by big-time deception. Being a servant of trickster god (alright we as well, but I think we didn't use it against other humans? eh). Scaring us a lot role-playing a vampire. Yes, the last bit is the most important I think. It's a GROOOOOOODGE. o_O :lol:

And yes I don't think she's really like Littlefinger. He's kind of an extreme case. But many-many-many rulers/politicians did some things in that vein, on smaller scale, at least once. I'm pretty sure of it. While we, the grey wizard Weber, did not. And wouldn't like to start.
 
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[X] Swamp Town
[X] Markgraf of Eastern Stirland

No other option really appeals to me. I have no doubts all of them will be exciting and fun, but there's a whole new world out there to explore! We'll be one of the first major old worlder's to explore and communicate with the Lizardmen. And frankly, I've never seen a quest exploring the Lustrian continent from the perspective of an Empire governer/wizard/researcher.

Besides we're so early on the timeline we might get to officially name a few of the lizardmen species. Think about it, we could name the fat ugly all-powerful frog people Sigmarrites!

Admittedly the humor might pass over the Lizardmen's heads but come onnnn :V
 
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[X] Loremaster-at-Large of Karak Eight Peaks
[X] Bodyguard and Tutor to Prince Mandred
[X] Ranaldian High Priest of Kislev
[X] Border Princess of the Howling River
 
While I'll hold my tongue if it wins, The loremaster job is the only one that will actively upset me if it wins...

QM: Here is a buffet of the weird and odd world of Warhammer, pick what you want!

Players: more of the same please, I feel safe and comfortable with that.


at the very lest Waystone will make us travel a lot....
Uh, what? Loremaster will explicitly involve us traveling between the various Dwarf holds and solving their issues. It is not at all staying in place
 
Look I do not think I have been arguing not in good faith, but this has been going very fast. What has struck you as being not in good faith about my conduct?
I said the issue in the same post you quoted.

Also you use the absolute worst case scenario as an argument to not vote Bodyguard. That's a logical fallacy at its core. You're exaggerating an argument to its worst possible condition and then arguing about the exaggeration. And then you refuse to consider the same worst case fallacy can be applied to Waystones and Loremaster as well. When this pointed out you just go
"but Heidi bad"
Why?
"Manipulating Emperor to put son on Throne".
But Emperor wants the same.
"But he'd have us use our powers to get Electors to vote for him."
That's a feature not a bug and expected. The Emperor is supposed to use the people at his disposal to shore up his position. (WOG).
"But Heidi would have us sabotage stuff"
No she won't she wants her son on the throne and if she's such a mastermind she'll be smart enough to not strangle th golden goose.
"But then Emperor could do it"
No he won't.
"But he could go crazy tho"

None of that is argument in good faith.
 
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