Mopman43
Mountain-Hermit of Nitpeak
- Location
- Vermont
They were thinking of the Karak-Runes of Valaya that had been losing power before K8P was fully retaken.
Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest
- Thread starter Boney
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Burned_Cookie
Very tired girl.
- Location
- Plato´s cave.
- Pronouns
- She/Her/It/Its
The issue with that is, at our level, there will always be more incidents, more holds to aid, more skaven to slay.
There will always be time sensitive offers on the table.
Not that I´m voting waystone. But that´s more because I personally find research turns kinda boring. Wich are gonna be abundant.
- Location
- USA
I assume they're talking about the Runes of Valaya which are what keeps dwarfs from turning to stone the moment they leave their holds.
Darth.
Definitely a heretic
- Location
- The Restaurant at the End of the Universe
I don't know what those are either (I'm not too versed on the intricacies of Fantasy lore). Are those the Chaos protection runes for Karaks that are powered by Karaz-a-Karak?
- Location
- Finland
No need for the scare italics on molded, the discussion has been quite clear on what that means, everyone of us has been molded through simple act of being raised.
And no, i would not expect you to be sold on this, by anything.
But that was for the argument that Karaz Ankor needs Mathilde more, it does not, because the actual problems Karaz Ankor has are not ones Mathilde can solve.
- Location
- USA
Mopman43
Mountain-Hermit of Nitpeak
- Location
- Vermont
From this bit.
(This is Boney's thing, not really something from canon)
NSMS
Probably evil, unfortunately.
- Location
- A rapidly widening tear in the fabric of reality
[X] Loremaster-at-Large of Karak Eight Peaks
[X] The Waystone Project
I'm pretty solidly against the bodyguard/tutor role, for two main reasons. Number one is that Heidi is a character who I'm fine with in short bursts but I don't think I'd like if we dealt with her more often than that, and number two is that I have zero interest in the Mandred part of the job- and while that isn't going to be the main focus, it's still going to be a non-negligible part of it.
Now excuse me while I catch up to the front page (I'm posting from page 9190).
[X] The Waystone Project
I'm pretty solidly against the bodyguard/tutor role, for two main reasons. Number one is that Heidi is a character who I'm fine with in short bursts but I don't think I'd like if we dealt with her more often than that, and number two is that I have zero interest in the Mandred part of the job- and while that isn't going to be the main focus, it's still going to be a non-negligible part of it.
Now excuse me while I catch up to the front page (I'm posting from page 9190).
- Location
- Before the Ninth Gate
First, if you think adulthood starts at age 20 for kids in the empire, you are very wrong. Wilhelmina called Eike an adult around 13. For Mandred, it's likely around 16 or so for him to be ready to make political decisions, which means the important teaching probably starts around 10. Also, yes, it is a long term payout, but the absolute biggest one we can have, ignoring the part where Ranald owes us.
Paranoia/intrigue (the lack of which causes many a Emperor to fail), military strategy (the battle of the caldera, with our innovation about cutting communication, is one of the things that would go down in history for the military genius alone), swordplay, how to treat with dwarves, what magic is capable of so it can be employed wisely, economics, etc.Well, I am interested in what exactly can we teach him. Would be very enlightening to me because I can't figure it out on my own. Like, what are we great at that we can teach someone without Ulgu or magic in general. Yes, I feel stupid there.
Everyone is raised in a culture yes and that impacts how they act, but to explain why I put molded in italics, this is a prince, a lot of people are going to want influence over him and for a lot of reasons. Mathilde just being there will not magically make her the greatest influence in his life. Those are less scare italics and more 'this is very vague' italics as seen by the words added after that.
[X] Bodyguard and Tutor to Prince Mandred
[X] Spymaster of Wissenland
oof, a bit sad spymaster of Wissenland isn't in the lead but such is voter interest i supposed.
I've come around to liking the bodygaurd option as we'll be travelling around solving empire problems and developing connections and can deny Heidi's requests and know her preety well while also getting Ranalds favor.
if these 2 votes fall of later then might vote for waystone research, still skepticle on lore master at large as i remember boney saying for our deeds accros the Karaz Ankor in Belegars name he would accrue dwarf favor and other such things if we help others but Belegar does seems to need a proper lore master.
will decide after reading the disscusion.
Edit:
[x] The Waystone Project
[x] Loremaster-at-Large of Karak Eight Peaks
anything but sylvania please
[X] Spymaster of Wissenland
oof, a bit sad spymaster of Wissenland isn't in the lead but such is voter interest i supposed.
I've come around to liking the bodygaurd option as we'll be travelling around solving empire problems and developing connections and can deny Heidi's requests and know her preety well while also getting Ranalds favor.
if these 2 votes fall of later then might vote for waystone research, still skepticle on lore master at large as i remember boney saying for our deeds accros the Karaz Ankor in Belegars name he would accrue dwarf favor and other such things if we help others but Belegar does seems to need a proper lore master.
will decide after reading the disscusion.
Edit:
[x] The Waystone Project
[x] Loremaster-at-Large of Karak Eight Peaks
anything but sylvania please
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- Location
- Finland
Great Runes of Valaya are what keep ambient magic from turning dwarves into stone.
They were loosing power before K8P was taken with only couple centuries (i think) of power left.
Only Thorgrim knew about it though, so that had nothing to do with low birth rate (which has been an issue for centuries before great runes start loosing power).
Why not vote for Sylvania or skaven slaying as well? It includes none of things you are against.
- Location
- Czech Republic
Im not sure if you can take what Wilhelmina says as the norm of the Empire.
- Location
- The Surface Of A Hostile Planet
To make this clear: I adore Mathilde's Disdain of Sigmar. I have openly advocated for keeping it because of the fun and cool plot developments it opens up.
So you're asking if I like a whole narrative arc associated with Mathilde's Disdain of Sigmar interacting with tutoring the new Emperor? Hell yeah I would!
OK it starts at 16, that means at the very earliest that this can even begin to pay off is after four more years than we spent... recovering two dwarf holds, reshaping the political and cultural landscape of the Karaz Ankor to favor radicals more and all this for one kid who will probably be emperor.
- Location
- Aotearoa
[x] Loremaster-at-Large of Karak Eight Peaks
[x] Nagarythe
Edit- I suppose this is also acceptable, and will certainly Title Drop.
[X] Bodyguard and Tutor to Prince Mandred
I think of the other two I prefer this slightly to Markgraf
[X] The Waystone Project
[x] Nagarythe
Edit- I suppose this is also acceptable, and will certainly Title Drop.
[X] Bodyguard and Tutor to Prince Mandred
I think of the other two I prefer this slightly to Markgraf
[X] The Waystone Project
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NSMS
Probably evil, unfortunately.
- Location
- A rapidly widening tear in the fabric of reality
I prefer the top two options to Sylvania, and while I like Skaven-hunting I don't think it's got a chance of winning right now.
Alright. Got 3 questions about it:
1) what would be the fun/interesting part of it?
2) what do we have working for us as parent/tutor figure?
3) what do we have working for us as a parent/tutor figure that Mandred isn't likely to get from some other tutor/significant person?
- Location
- Finland
Ah yes, lot of people will be trying to influence the kid so we should not bother.
We are the boys godmother, will be his bodyguard and tutor, and are friends with his mom.
We will have plenty of influence on him, that we are not the only one does not make the point invalid.
- Location
- Actually pretty lost
You were asked to give your repeated and varied framings of the Bodyguard option as bad a rest.
As for this specific angle of attack, Boney put that to rest hours ago:
This isn't Heidi twisting the Articles as the next Dieter (a comparison you made), this is the articles working explicitly as intended.
[X] Loremaster-at-Large of Karak Eight Peaks
[X] The Waystone Project
[X] Markgraf of Eastern Stirland
[X] Nagarythe
[X] The Waystone Project
[X] Markgraf of Eastern Stirland
[X] Nagarythe
It does indeed not make it invalid, but it does kind of temporize what that moulding can be and how much impact we will have. It's not a binary thing 'have influence' and and 'don't have influence'. Like any other action this will depend on AP spent and rolls made.
- Location
- Before the Ninth Gate
Calling a kid an adult is something she's taking from child raising norms, I think.
I would point out that the greatest wizard Merlin was known for raising a king. A wizard helping raise a king is a huge deal as well for the empire.
Also, we'd be doing this while we also solve huge problems across the Empire as well. We've done most of what we are going to do in the Karaz Ankor. We've fixed most of the problems that can be solved by us, and other dwarfs are already hiring wizards anyway. We won, so we must move on.