Mopman43
Mountain-Hermit of Nitpeak
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- Vermont
Well, Mathilde does have the belt, so it certainly seems possible that dragonfire will do nothing to her.
Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest
- Thread starter Boney
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tapkomet
Senātus Populusque Rōmānus
- Location
- Ukraine
Speaking more generally, Bodyguard is probably one of my least favorite options:
For one, it will involve a heavy political element in the Empire, "conversations with the right people", etc., and this stuff is important, sure, but it's also kinda... inherently petty, perhaps? Nobility squabbling is still nobility squabbling even if we're talking Elector Counts.
For two, it's obviously going to heavily involve interacting with Empire humans, some of whom are going to be anti-magic bigots.
For three, we're gonna be a Grey Wizard getting involved in Empire politics of our own will. Not in breach of the Articles, of course, because the Emperor's authority supersedes the rules of the Grey College, but still not what I would call a good look.
For four, perhaps least, organizing the day-to-day guarding of Mandred, even if we're not going to do all that much bodyguarding in person, just doesn't strike me as especially exciting.
For one, it will involve a heavy political element in the Empire, "conversations with the right people", etc., and this stuff is important, sure, but it's also kinda... inherently petty, perhaps? Nobility squabbling is still nobility squabbling even if we're talking Elector Counts.
For two, it's obviously going to heavily involve interacting with Empire humans, some of whom are going to be anti-magic bigots.
For three, we're gonna be a Grey Wizard getting involved in Empire politics of our own will. Not in breach of the Articles, of course, because the Emperor's authority supersedes the rules of the Grey College, but still not what I would call a good look.
For four, perhaps least, organizing the day-to-day guarding of Mandred, even if we're not going to do all that much bodyguarding in person, just doesn't strike me as especially exciting.
- Location
- USA
Mathilde: "How does one kill a Fire Dragon?"
Cython: "Kill it until it dies."
Mathilde: "..."
[X] Spymaster of Wissenland
[x] The Waystone Project
[X] Research Sabbatical
[X] Nagarythe
These all seem like good opportunities to increase our independence. That we can poke into whatever we want whether it be fighting vampires in Sylvania, spying on skaven or hunting apparitions.
[x] The Waystone Project
[X] Research Sabbatical
[X] Nagarythe
These all seem like good opportunities to increase our independence. That we can poke into whatever we want whether it be fighting vampires in Sylvania, spying on skaven or hunting apparitions.
Distance and nearness to a dwarf library would mean we can research things at the edge of imperial law, like collaborating with other sorts of magic users.
TimEd
Meteor maker
Politics and regional business is on the dwarf options my dude.
Being a sylvanian troubleshooter will just mean we take up the slack that Roswita finally acknowledges as just being half of her job, ie wipe vamps, compared to actual territorial management as mentioned by Roswita in the chapter itself.
Dwarves has the reclaimed hold redrawing the kislevite border maps, the canal bringing future economic boon (and marienburg troubles), Border prince shenanigans (even if we don't pick it, maybe we can back someone else up for it instead), possible repowering of ancient dwarven golden age structures, etc etc.
- Location
- Europa, Jupiter Orbit
Who would we be advising? If Luitpold lives another fourteen years then Mandred will be twenty, but won't actually be the ruler of anything, except maybe some training wheel fiefdom or military post. Except if you mean that we switch from working for Heidi and Mandred to working for Luitpold directly. But I wouldn't call that a direct continuation of our job.
That's actually an option. If we choose Research Sabbatical our Boon and Deed rewards don't get frozen or anything. If anything, if we want to concentrate fully on our Boon instead of either plopping it down and forgetting about it or using it as fuel to our new mission, then Research Sabbatical or Waystone are the way to go.
I mean, do we really want to found and furnish a research institute in K8P in the same turn as we take a job in Altdorf, Wissenland or Sylvania? Hell, even if we keep our day-to-day HQ in K8P and do Loremaster-at-Large stuff, we'd still have the research institute as an AP sink that we can only half-heartedly engage with.
And while it does synergize quite decently with the Waystone Project, I am a bit worried on whether taking it immediately would gain us more funding (due to already looking established and professional) or less (due to evidently already having gotten funding from the Empire and thus not being a priority within a world as constantly on fire as WHF).
If we move away from K8P for our job, I'm worried even about the Great Library to an extent. People might be more reluctant to vote for it if it looks even more like a vanity project than it does now.
I'd take him to Wissenland or Sylvania, but I don't know about Altdorf or the Border Princes.
Her deception is I am a dispossessed but humble noble from the former ruling family of Stirland. She's lying completely about her past and life experience. She's not sharing her life with or truly trusting her life partner. She's keeping her religious beliefs, her supernatural visions and powers, her contact with the divine, her worldview, her talents, her long term ambitions, her very being secret from her husband. Her blood ancestry is the least of it.
If we are killing them as part of dispensing Dwarven justice, what do you want to do with their unhatched children? I guess raising them ourselves is icky and macabre. The most conventionally moral thing to do would be to send the eggs to Ulthuan, with the Imperial Zoo being a self-serving compromise.
She didn't share that with her husband either though.
It doesn't have to be. Just if she wants to remain consistently legal or thinks that we will betray her if she ever isn't.
Good point. Forgot about that possibility.
Or they made a lot of fuss about "going to make something of themselves" and "not hiding away in caves anymore", maybe even with an Oath or two attached, that their pride simply didn't allow them to return. And better live with and influence a Human tribe than literally be alone in the wilderness.
I don't know hiw good an argument that is for anything. We are a Grey LM now and we still know so little about basic Grey Order stuff, like how to encode messages in apprentice brains, how to make use of pocket dimensions, how exactly the Order keeps an eye on people within the Imperium, what all the tithe money gets spent on, how to access the Battle Mage quarters...
Child Emperors aren't that bad if regency is the norm (as opposed to a child being able to overrule everyone) and/or if the child's Council is a good one. It's also a good setup for a long and stable reign after, in which truly far reaching and politically difficult reforms or projects can be achieved.
We have two Imperial Great Deeds and one K8P Transcendental Boon. Even if we don't use all of them directly for funding and support, something like the Library would still help attract funding and support.
Im not sure about that. I think the Empire has more hard power projection than the Karaz Ankor. It can go on full scale offensive wars and survive. The Karaz Ankor have soft power and are an impossibly tough nut to crack, but their main source of projection beyond their borders is just Barak Varr.
The Empire is ascending, as is the Human race. Dwarves and the Karaz Ankor are both currently still in decline, even if our actions momentarily reversed the trend.
I truly believe that every normal day that passes without a new Everchosen or Vermintide or Nagash is a day where the problems become a bit fewer and the quality of life rises in the Empire. I don't think that the same is true among the Dwarves.
Agree with the rest though.
- Location
- Upon the back of the Great A'Tuin
And I disagree with your disagreement
!Mathilde is a hero unit both in the Empire and in the Karaz Ankor. There might be others who have magic but there are very few who have the same level of skill in the same skill set as Mathilde. Very few, if any, don't have existing duties that take up their time, and I'm certain that none of them have the personal trust of the Empress. There is always a dire need for more qualified personal.
The Karaz Ankor might still be in decline, but it's a relatively slow decline and Mathilde has already given it a hell of a boost with Vlag and K8P. The possible issues Belegar brought up seem, for the most part, to be relatively stable (or at least not time-sensitive, from a human's perspective). Teaching Mandred is something far more pressing since it's not like we can delay him growing up. Setting aside the idea to make him Emperor, Mandred is (baring tragedy) going to become the next Elector Count of Reikland, which is probably the strongest province in the Empire. How much could the Karaz Ankor benefit from such an individual remembering the oaths of Sigmar the next time they seek imperial aid?
Besides, the garden might not be overgrown but that does not mean you don't have to do some weeding every once in a while.
SuperSonicSound
Shadowmancer of the Shadow Cabal
This is my issue with it as well. Any good we do is pretty much incidental to the real goals Heidi has, which is kind of a huge downer.
- Location
- New Brunswick, NJ
- Pronouns
- He/Him/His
Hunh. Honest question: if that's so, why aren't you voting for the Waystones project? It's expressly magical research that the Colleges are interested in, and Boney said that literally the first decision would be "who is our boss":
Cause, like, the Heidi job is definitely Empire focused, but not particularly College focused. She wants to get Electors on Mandred's side, and the Colleges don't have a vote.
No, I don't think it makes sense to spend our Deed on an institute in K8P if we move away from it without seriously straining credulity, which is why I am wondering if we can get the same mechanical benefit from our new employer somehow if we leave.
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Abby Normal
High Clerk of the Ymaryn
- Pronouns
- He/Him
[X] Loremaster-at-Large of Karak Eight Peaks
[] The Waystone Project
[X] Markgraf of Eastern Stirland
[X] Spymaster of Wissenland
[X] Ambassador-at-Large to the Karaz Ankor
[X] Nagarythe
[X] Research Sabbatical
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[] The Waystone Project
[X] Markgraf of Eastern Stirland
[X] Spymaster of Wissenland
[X] Ambassador-at-Large to the Karaz Ankor
[X] Nagarythe
[X] Research Sabbatical
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- Location
- Austria
Yeah, I'd be a fair bit more interested if job genuinely was Imperial Troubleshooter and not Heidi's Troubleshooter.
[X] Bodyguard and Tutor to Prince Mandred
[X] Markgraf of Eastern Stirland
[X] Markgraf of Eastern Stirland
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- Location
- Czech Republic
I was talking about the research institute, not the library (or at least I thought that they are seperate).
You dont really need research institute to study with non imperial magic users. Just invite them to your tower in K8P out of sight of people that would have problem with it.
You do know that there is a large hole of the agency of both Mathilde and Emperor Luitpold because both can work in benefitting the Imperial House to smoothen succession to Mandred. Mathilde's boss is ultimately not just Heide in this she is more of her equal her real boss is the Imperial Household led by the emperor and while he may have both a chamberlain and his wife control things he would always have a personal eye on his heir since he lost his last wife due to unknown reasons. So, he would also be the one to order Mathilde on something if he believes it is important to his house and its not like Mathilde will be obscured he needs to know everyone working for the household especially when it specifically concerns his heir. That's why I find it dubious that our only contact is Heidi when we would be getting a job for the palace itself and it was just Heidi's connections that got us in. She may be our boss by virtue of her being the Empress but she knows that she is Mathilde's equal in the eyes of Ranald so she won't do anything that would harm her relations with Mathilde who can investigate things on what job she would like.
[X] Markgraf of Eastern Stirland
[X] Spymaster of Wissenland
[X] Bodyguard and Tutor to Prince Mandred
[X] Border Princess of the Howling River
[X] Loremaster-at-Large of Karak Eight Peaks
[X] Spymaster of Wissenland
[X] Bodyguard and Tutor to Prince Mandred
[X] Border Princess of the Howling River
[X] Loremaster-at-Large of Karak Eight Peaks
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