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He's on the Volans with the rest of the wizards.
Thats good to know. So close enough to serve as a second string generally.

The odds of the Dragon Ogre personally coming to check on the latest caravan at the edge of their territory is, unlikely, to say the least.
And if it does, the outriders we already have are not going to miss it.
That would normally be fine, except that this area is explicitly an area where the convoy gets bogged down.
And there's a Lord of Change on this side of the Materium.
Sending a sorcerous emissary to provide a heads up is well within its bailiwick.

Not to mention that we dont actually know what happened to that Ogre tribe that bought up all the livestock.
 
[X] Scouting near the convoy
[X] Sir Ruprecht Wulfhart the Younger
[X] Use Rite of Way to ease the ascent
[X] Investigate the 'Windfall' with the Light Wizards
 
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No idea, IC or OOC.
We have no indication what its sleep cycle is like. And the fact that a Lord of Change has been messing with us obliquely is the sort of thing that has my paranoia at high alert. Dragon Ogres are Chaos minions after all.
Technically speaking, I'm pretty sure OOC is that he's been sleeping under a mountain for something on the order of a thousand years at least.
 
One argument for scouting the Iron Wolves is that Mathilde is the only scouting unit that can a) remain unseen b) range far ahead of the convoy and c) infiltrate any camps the nomads have, possibly giving us info on their internal politics (and maybe their neighbours?), maybe stab a few leader types (probably not the dragon ogre, I strongly suggest we don't try to assassinate that) and potentially raid the treasury for loot rolls (because we clearly need more money). A bit like what we were planning with the Combes, except the Chaos Dwarfs got there first.

(Rangers can hide, but have to stay close to the convoy, knights can ride off into the distance, but they're not exactly stealthy, and no one else has infiltration abilities).
 
Technically speaking, I'm pretty sure OOC is that he's been sleeping under a mountain for something on the order of a thousand years at least.
You're much more sanguine than I am.

IIRC, we last saw a Dragon Ogre on our way to K8P during the reconquest.
It hunted down a bunch of Orks, killed them and took them back to the top of the mountain for food.
I would make zero assumptions about the wakefulness of this particular Dragon Ogre.

Especially not this close to the Wastes.
 
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I'm going to trust the Knights of Taal's Fury to handle the Kurgan. Demigryphs are faster than steppe horses, and our steam wagons have nothing to fear from horse archers. So I don't think scouting these guys is important at all.
Would the Knights of Taal's Fury just attack any Kurgans they see, or would they avoid picking fights, though? We sadly don't even know enough about them to know if they'd consider Kurgans kill-on-sight or not, as we haven't spoken to them. ><
Become involved with:
[ ] Ranging far ahead of the convoy
- With the Knights of Taal's Fury
[ ] Scout the lands of the Iron Wolves
They're ranging far ahead of the convoy, so if they run into an Iron Wolves in the expedition's path, do they attack them, do they retreat and tell the expedition to detour a bit, or what.

There's... probably some amount of difference between "range ahead, but on the expected path of the convoy" versus "go and search out through the Iron Wolves' territory." Though there's some overlap too.

Not sure what to do myself...
 
You're much more sanguine than I am.

IIRC, we literally saw a Dragon Ogre on our way to K8P during the reconquest.
It hunted down a bunch of Orks, killed them and took them back to the top of the mountain for food.
I would make zero assumptions about the wakefulness of this particular Dragon Ogre.

Especially not this close to the Wastes.

Those Dragon Ogres are hanging out in the constant storm above Thunder Mountain, unique situation.
 
One argument for scouting the Iron Wolves is that Mathilde is the only scouting unit that can a) remain unseen b) range far ahead of the convoy and c) infiltrate any camps the nomads have, possibly giving us info on their internal politics (and maybe their neighbours?), maybe stab a few leader types (probably not the dragon ogre, I strongly suggest we don't try to assassinate that) and potentially raid the treasury for loot rolls (because we clearly need more money). A bit like what we were planning with the Combes, except the Chaos Dwarfs got there first.
To be fair, Esben and Seija killed a Dragon Ogre between them back when they were Journeymen.
Its possible.
Just no need to borrow trouble when we have a dragon along; if it wants to start something, let Asarnil and his star dragon handle it.

I just want early warning of any shenanigans so we can let Asarnil do the killing.
We have too little margin of error for my comfort.
 
Would the Knights of Taal's Fury just attack any Kurgans they see, or would they avoid picking fights, though? We sadly don't even know enough about them to know if they'd consider Kurgans kill-on-sight or not, as we haven't spoken to them. ><


They're ranging far ahead of the convoy, so if they run into an Iron Wolves in the expedition's path, do they attack them, do they retreat and tell the expedition to detour a bit, or what.

There's... probably some amount of difference between "range ahead, but on the expected path of the convoy" versus "go and search out through the Iron Wolves' territory." Though there's some overlap too.

Not sure what to do myself...
I addressed this a bit in a different post:
I'd be a little more worried about incidents if our knights were reversed: Ruprecht hungers for glory and the wolves are slower than steppe horses, so I can easily imagine that attitude getting transmitted to the men and the Winter Wolves being confrontational in a situation that isn't to their advantage. But Joerg, the leader of the Knights of Taal's Fury who are providing our perimeter scouting, has come off as more cautious and practical, and demigryphs are faster than steppe horses, so they are less at risk of being skirmished to death by raiding parties.
There's no guarantees, but my impression is that Joerg won't pick a fight he doesn't have to take, and because of the natural advantages of his knights, it's hard to force them into a fight on horse-archer terms.

Just no need to borrow trouble when we have a dragon along; if it wants to start something, let Asarnil and his star dragon handle it.
I strongly agree. I'd be much less sanguine about "whatever, they won't start shit if we don't start shit" if it weren't for the dragon snoozing on Metal Bawks #6.
 
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To be fair, Esben and Seija killed a Dragon Ogre between them back when they were Journeymen.
Its possible.
Just no need to borrow trouble when we have a dragon along; if it wants to start something, let Asarnil and his star dragon handle it.

I just want early warning of any shenanigans so we can let Asarnil do the killing.
We have too little margin of error for my comfort.

There's a difference between a Dragon Ogre and a Dragon Ogre Shaggoth which is what I suspect the Old One to be.
 
Also worth noting:
Among our retinue of K8P wizards is Johan of the Gold. Johan has Diplomacy 20, Intrigue 19.
Its not like we dont have a second string to our precautions here.
One of the questions I wanted to ask BoneyM after the very end of the expedition (and the reveal of its most obvious consequences) is what each Magister contributed outside of battles.
 
[X] Preceptor Joerg von Zavstra
[X] Sir Ruprecht Wulfhart the Younger
[X] Citharus, Barbitus, and Timpania
[X] Magister Michel Solmann
[X] Journeywoman Alexandra Kohler
[X] Investigate the 'Windfall' with the Light Wizards

Peeps
 
[X] Use Rite of Way to ease the ascent
[X] Scout the lands of the Iron Wolves
[X] Investigate the 'Windfall' with the Light Wizards
[X] Journeyman Cyrston von Danling
 
[x] Use Rite of Way to ease the ascent
[x] Investigate the 'Windfall' with the Light Wizards
[x] Journeyman Cyrston von Danling
[x] Sir Ruprecht Wulfhart the Younger
 
I agree that we have actual scouts to do the scouting, and that our intervention won't make much difference. I'm willing to approval-vote other interpersonal actions, to borrow pickle's term.

[x] Sir Ruprecht Wulfhart the Younger
[x] Journeyman Cyrston von Danling
[x] Journeywoman Alexandra Kohler
[x] Use Rite of Way to ease the ascent
[x] Investigate the 'Windfall' with the Light Wizards

I used Longplait in my omake. In general, I just replace "beard" with "plait" for female Dwarf age categories.
I was going to say "longbraid", which is much the same.
 
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