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We just had a grey-celestial conversation about the importance of knowing when to show your hand, so I'm thinking maybe we should try to act normal.
 
If we do race back to the convoy maybe Illusion some "possible attack incoming" notes when we are close enough to be hard, since we will be reacting openly anyway?

Just an idea.
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I do like the idea of the Hold actually having been switched in relative space via magic (and frozen in time too?), and this being kept up via the waystone. As that is (potentially) the least bad set of circumstances that come to mind.

Though I forget when the hold vanished and what else was going on at the time.

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I'm pretty sure this isn't correct, given that the following quote implies the outside of the mountain looks roughly the way it did before Karak Vlag was founded.
Same on the outside, different (no ore) on the inside. Strange. Strangeeeeee. As in "motivation for this, if an attack is strange".

Why keep the defensive utility of the external mountain shape the same, but remove that which is considered mineral wealth?

Maybe, as someone stated, the dwarves prospecting where the old mines used to be are having their heads fucked with.... maybe those mineshafts have not been filled with "worthless rock", and that's an illusion, but changing the overall shape of the mountain (in an illusion way) is more effort that it is worth?

Maybe the external parts of the holds have been removed, and the "mineshaft filling" is illusion - again, any such depict would have to stand against a quick glance by Teclis, so that why I think the external parts are really gone.

The dwarves inside are dead or in stasis or something.
 
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Here's my take. If we go back to the Expedition and hunker down, we yield whatever it is the initiative. That's true whether we sneak back or run back. It can choose to attack when it likes, after seeing what we're going to do. And let's face it, while we can be somewhat more cautious, it's not like "high alert" is that much more defensive than "normal operations".

If we blow horns and call Deathfang and his plus one here, now, and start poking at the source of its power then we put it on the backfoot. If it starts to use these energies for something than Mathilde can maybe dispel or disrupt. If it tries to do nothing, that gives her more time to poke at its power and call the other wizards in to poke at its power. We put "whatever this is" on the defensive. We force it to act now, obviously before it was ready or ideal, rather than letting it act on its schedule.
 
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Huh I thought we all know Karak Vlag got ISOT to into the Realm of Chaos by Slaanesh with the Hunt of the Vlagians on the remaining survivors that was away fighting?
 
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If we blow horns and call Deathfang and his plus one here, now, and start poking at the source of its power then we put it on the backfoot. If it starts to use these energies for something than Mathilde can maybe dispel or disrupt. If it tries to do nothing, that gives her more time to poke at its power and call the other wizards in to poke at its power. We put "whatever this is" on the defensive. We force it to act now, obviously before it was ready or ideal, rather than letting it act on its schedule.
I'll admit, my main hesitance is if this somehow turns out to be nothing and everyone thinks that Mathilde's going crazy or something.

But, I do trust her judgement, and if she thinks things are mega screwy, then they almost certainly are.

Huh I thought we all know Karak Vlag got ISOT to into the Realm of Chaos by Slaanesh with the Hunt of the Vlagians on the remaining survivors that was away fighting?
Karag Dum's fate isn't necessarily the same as canon, why would Karak Vlag's be?
 
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I think Stand Your Ground is fine for now. Yeah, something could pop out of the ground and try to eat us.

But we could call the cavalry away from the Expedition and then have it pounce there. One of the options is rushing back as fast as we can, after all, so it's eminently a possibility in Mathilde's mind.

I don't want to cry wolf and then have the wolf eat up the cows when everyone was busy defending the sheep.

@edit: But I totally misread it and calling the cavalry is what it does -.-'
 
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I mean let's be honest you could tell a dwarf that you panicked because the dwarves were emphasizing magic instead of stone with their words and they'd go "Holy shit that's nothing good"
 
[X] Leg it, Dwarf! Run as if all hell followed after! Flyyyy you foooooools!

I mean, unless Mathilde is comfortable with the idea of trying to dispel a forming Chaos portal, idk

Maybe she's feeling plucky today

Maybe Ronald wants a nibble
 
I'll admit, my main hesitance is if this somehow turns out to be nothing and everyone thinks that Mathilde's going crazy or something.

But, I do trust her judgement, and if she thinks things are mega screwy, then they almost certainly are.

Stone is an excellent insulator of magic.

Yes, I think we caught a deception so subtle that only a Grey Wizard magister would catch it. Teclis may be far above Mathilde as a mage... but he's not a professional paranoid!
 
So am I the only one who thinks the memetic defense. Was getting actively stronger as time went on? I mean, we only had three instances of it from Mathy's perspective, but the third came almost instantly on the heel of the third, and that happened after she had already started noticing something was up. It might be that we're already under notice, though I'm not sure whether that's good for being sneaky or openly calling for help.

Also, I wonder how much dwarf favor we would get for bringing back a missing Karak. Probably a lot, especially if we also ended a centuries old Chaos defiling.
 
[X] Act normal
- There might be unfriendly eyes on you. Pretend you didn't see anything and return to the Expedition as normal, and decide what to do from there.
 
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