I mean we could make a bunch of Lich creatures whose sole job is to use the dedicated wrights to make stuff? Or is it one wright per mage? That would also mean finding someone with the knowledge of Lich making.
 
I mean we could make a bunch of Lich creatures whose sole job is to use the dedicated wrights to make stuff? Or is it one wright per mage? That would also mean finding someone with the knowledge of Lich making.
Usual ruling is that you loose the benefits of anything that costs you CON when becoming undead.

I still think that Qyburn should be put on Sentient Undead proofing next turn, leaving the remaining fleshcrafters to finish the first Praetori.
 
Usual ruling is that you loose the benefits of anything that costs you CON when becoming undead.

I still think that Qyburn should be put on Sentient Undead proofing next turn, leaving the remaining fleshcrafters to finish the first Praetori.

Oh well. I guess my undead lich lord in my own game will have to settle for mind-controlled craft slaves...it's okay. He prefers it that way.
 
I would accept 2 points of Con drain for a Dedicated Wright and lab space, honestly. It's instant lifelong financial security, and decent profits should be stupidly easy to make even restricted to only a small fraction of the month in which I can craft for myself.
I mean, a mage is never poor, but IIRC from level 3 onwards you can use a Wright to make crafting easy. Here crafting costs no XP, and assuming I mostly use the official labs (even if there's a fee to use my work space for private entreprise) it's still easy piles of cash. Then I can mitigate the Con drain easily enough, and from then on it's all profits!

Honestly I'd suggest all our mages spend five or ten years doing this and accumulating better personal gear, and then go out and do field work to level while enjoying the safety of being very over-geared for their level. It's an excellent deal!
 
IIRC mages do earn wages... I've been accounting for their salaries in the sheets since we started employing crafters. So they could use their incomes to start a small side business or just to craft their own gear.
 
That's one possibility, another is that she hate her mother and sister, but do care for the fief, and so didn't want to see it in the hands of her asshole older sister.

Oh hi there Canon Renly.

[X] Azel

Honestly, I'm cool with sink or swim as a punishment here. If she does somehow bootstrap herself into an adventurer after a year or two, I wouldn't be too adverse to giving her the new identity treatment and letting her serve as another mage.

Sigghhh, here's hoping the Golden Shields don't think to ask th right questions anytime soon. Or thay if they do, they're too wary of giving the Faith more footing if they blow this up.
 
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Adhoc vote count started by DragonParadox on Mar 18, 2020 at 10:53 AM, finished with 134 posts and 16 votes.

  • [X] Lay out the facts:
    -[X] Revealing this matter in public and punishing her in accordance with the gravity of her betrayal and violation of her own kin would be politically inconvenient to you.
    -[X] Therefore, she will stay in SD for the afternoon, admit to dabbling in magic and after a fortunate turn of events will leave a favorable impression with a Mystic, who will offer to teach her, though she will have to go to Draconys with him.
    -[X] You will of course help her to convince her mother what a great opportunity that is.
    -[X] Make it absolutely clear that this is not leniency or the result of any fondness for her. This is politically more convenient then having her tried and hanged for illegal mindcontrol and ursupation.
    -[X] You will never hear from her again. No troubles. No questionable behaviour. The mage will make sure of it.
    -[X] Contact Teana to find a Mystic to tutor her. Someone who is trustworthy, discreet, and can deal with her if she tries anything like this again.
    -[X] Proceed to talk with the elder daughter and convince her to go home and resume her duties as heiress.
    [X] Tempered Response
    -[X] Gently draw the circumstances that drove her to bespell her sister from Teora to see to what, if any, degree her acts are mitigated.
    -[X] Share with Teora exactly why what she has done is wrong, and what paths we have seen people go down who have started similarly.
    -[X] Speak with Vaela, get her side of things. Make sure we have a fair accounting. Depending on the severity of Vaela's actions, ensure she knows we're disappointed at the lack of familial care.
    -[X] Inform Teora that she has a debt to repay, and that one option is by serving the Realm for the duration that her sister was compelled for.
    -[X] The pleasantness of Teora's service will depend on how bad her circumstances were, and how repentant she is. Sliding scale from frontier outpost on the arse end of nowhere to education in Sorcerer's Deep.
    -[X] Goal here is to be as fair as possible, taking into account the seriousness of Teora's actions as well as what drove her to it.
    [X] Tempered Response
    -[X] Gently draw the circumstances that drove her to bespell her sister from Teora to see to what, if any, degree her acts are mitigated.
    -[X] Share with Teora exactly why what she has done is wrong, and what paths we have seen people go down who have started similarly.
    -[X] Speak with Vaela, get her side of things. Make sure we have a fair accounting. Depending on the severity of Vaela's actions, ensure she knows we're disappointed at the lack of familial care.
    -[X] Inform Teora that she has a debt to repay, and that one option is by serving the Realm for the duration that her sister was compelled for.
    -[X] The pleasantness of Teora's service will depend on how bad her circumstances were, and how repentant she is. Sliding scale from frontier outpost on the arse end of nowhere to education in Sorcerer's Deep.
    -[X] Goal here is to be as fair as possible, taking into account the seriousness of Teora's actions as well as what drove her to it.
    [X] Plan Token Other vote
    -[X] Punish the younger sister according to dornish law. Make an example of her.
    -[X] Spin this into A PR win for Doran as catching a bad apple. And showcasing how magic is gelping catch bad people.
 
Part MMMCCCXCV: Veiled Misdeeds
Veiled Misdeeds

Twenty First Day of the Twelfth Month 293 AC

Though you had told Doran months ago that you would enact a public trial for Teora, and nothing of what you had heard inclines you to leniency, that certainly is not possible now for you are not her overlord and Doran does not have as strong a hand as you against his lords, nor for that matter would it send the same message you had intended. Likely as not it would play directly into Dayne's hands.

"Here is what is going to happen," you say, tone hard enough Stannis Baratheon would likely approve, though the Lord of Storm's End would most certainly not approve of your next words. "You will stay here for an afternoon. Upon returning to Sunspear you will admit to dabbling in magic and having found a willing and skilled teacher, and you will ask your mother to remain with them for training. You will be traveling at once to Draconys at the edge of my lands."

"Mother would never allow it," her voice shakes with relief and trepidation all at once you suspect. You wonder if she even know where Draconys is. Better than the headsman's blade in any case.

"She will allow it and you will be going. The political consequences of your scheme being revealed are too grave to allow, lest you will be tried for them." You do not mention execution, but the notion hangs in the air just the same. Half the Lords of Dorne and no small number in the other kingdoms would demand it. To strike against kin is a hated enough a deed, but to do so with the intent to usurp an inheritance is among the greatest fears of all the lords of Westeros. "Thus you will instead be watched and I will never hear of one misdeed from you again, no troubles, no questionable dealings. Is that clear?"

For all her sins Teora Toland is an intelligent young woman. She nods jerkily. "Yes, Your Grace."

***​

"I'd have seen her head roll," Ser Richard says quietly later as you move through the echoing corridors of the Inquisition Headquarters looking for Vaela's assigned minder so you can find the Toland heir. "I'd also make a shit king." he says a moment later, the corners of his mouth twitching into an expression too brief to be called a smile.

"You would make a better king than most, Ser, if that was where your duty lay, but I am glad indeed to have you at my side instead." You reply gravely.

Looking over the file on Vaela Toland you find about what you had expected, a few tangles with the Lawmen over drinking, brawls or both, along two instances of trying to use her rank to get out of her punishment even though she was supposed to be here in secret, thankfully covered up adequately by the Inquisition. You can see what Arianne meant about her being aimless, she had tried to enlist in the Academy, but failed the entrance examination, had herself tested for the Scholarum 'on a lark' and given up three days later.

Part of you wonders how much of this is her natural inclination and how much the magical compulsions, but it is not as though you can justify experimenting to find out. Instead you resolve to give her back the direction she had lost and deal with her later when and how it is necessary.

By evening, having drank more beer than in the last half year and listened to stories of Vaela's months of 'freedom', you managed to persuade her that Dorne would be changing more than enough to satisfy her desire for adventure. Thankfully she did not seem any more suggestible than one might expect. The heir to a Dornish countess being inclined to credulity would have been one more headache for Prince Doran.

***​

Lady Nymella embraces her elder daughter fondly, her chiding gentle indeed compared to the supposed transgression of running away from hearth and House. Unfortunately her pleasant mood evaporates when you mention that Teora had been studying magic and the 'opportunity' she had found in Sorcerer's Deep.

"Were you fucking him?" the Lady of Ghost Hill asks her younger daughter sharply.

"I do not know who you mean mother," Teora said softly, gaze dropping to the floor.

"Uron, the bent-legged son of a swineherd, is that how you got him to teach you magic?" Nymella asks, taking feigned meekness for weakness.

Vaela laughs nastily.

It is a pity you can never reveal what went on at Ghost Hill, mostly because you cannot punish Teora fully under the law, but also because her mother will never know just what her parenting had helped foster. The idea of encouraging formal education for the sons and daughters of the nobility seems more appealing by the moment.

"No mother, I..." Teora begins uncertainly, but before she can decide how to defend herself you interject smoothly.

"I believe this is a unique opportunity for Teora personally and for your House..." Words you had said many times before follow, arguments that swayed firmer opinions and indeed it does not take long to obtain her assent, ironically at least in part due to the same disdain for her younger daughter that had started the whole mess.

***​

It is clear even before either of them speak that Waymar and Tyene have had a better time dealing with Lord Fowler than you did with the tangles of House Toland. "Imagine if Salladhor Saan had been born a lord's son rather than a pirate's and there you have Franklyn Fowler," Tyene explains over dinner, gesturing with a piece of spice-bread.

"No need to sound so admiring about it," Waymar laughs.

"As a Sand Snake, I'm obligated to like scoundrels from filial piety," she replies loftily. In a more serious tone she explains. "He was amenable to the reasons for not sacrificing bandits to the Heart Tree under the laws you made. Agreed to stop almost at once, spent the rest of the visit arranging discreet investments for the Earths Bounty Jewelry Manufactory."

Alas, the pleasant mood was not to last. Dany's voice echoes in your thoughts. "Someone just shot Andrew Dayne with an arrow while I was watching. I think it was poisoned. They vanished into the crowds. He hasn't gotten up. Should I heal him?"

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Best case Dany captures the attacker discretly and lets the Dayne die.

That way Doran has double leverage, first with the murderer in hand, second with the offer to rez Dayne.
 
I think she should heal him. Not only is it morally correct, but it may well foster goodwill.
He lay suspect we arranged the shooting, so she'll have to make a very convincing act at being there by chance (or at being a Celestial), or perhaps she'll have to find whoever the shooter was.
 
I think she should heal him. Not only is it morally correct, but it may well foster goodwill.
He lay suspect we arranged the shooting, so she'll have to make a very convincing act at being there by chance (or at being a Celestial), or perhaps she'll have to find whoever the shooter was.
It seems easier to let him die and resurrect him later. That way we don't have to explain our presence and Doran can have more leverage over the Daynes.
 
best case for Teora from now on is that her sister stay's an ignorant idiot and dies either by something else or breaks our laws and has to be excecuted. honestly after seeing what she was up to i wouldn't mind her dying
 
"As a Sand Snake, I'm obligated to like scoundrels from filial piety," she replies loftily. In a more serious tone she explains. "He was amenable to the reasons for not sacrificing bandits to the Heart Tree under the laws you made. Agreed to stop almost at once, spent the rest of the visit arranging discreet investments for the Earths Bounty Jewelry Manufactory."

Franklyn Fowler is someone I can like. The kind of lord you would want. Does he have any second sons with similar personalities? They could be given a nice lordship somewhere.
 
i'd say let him die if we knew who the killer was but as that is an unknown i'd rather not do so, could make the whole mess a lot more complecated
 
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