A Sword Without a Hilt: A Song of Ice and Fire/D&D 3.5 Crossover
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That's probably best left for later if we do it. Right now he'd likely prefer a gift less blatant. Also, one of the two daughters he has who are of age has to be his heir, so we can't exactly take both.
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Ask Crake if you want that, I would rather Dayne die here and now. I don't see much benefit for us in saving him.
Sure, adding it now.
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[X] Crake
Telling Daenerys to let him die is cruel. Daenerys won't like it. she'll do it, of course, because she's no longer so naive, but she still has a heart. She accepts that sometimes we do bad things "for the greater good". But this is a weird case, because the "greater good" is tiny and the bad thing is easily avoidable.
Telling Daenerys to let him die is cruel. Daenerys won't like it. she'll do it, of course, because she's no longer so naive, but she still has a heart. She accepts that sometimes we do bad things "for the greater good". But this is a weird case, because the "greater good" is tiny and the bad thing is easily avoidable.
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It's not for the greater good at all, and we weren't pretending it was.
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[X] Duesal
Goldfish
Friendly Spider-Fish Abomination
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Well, Nymella and Vaela both turned out to be as unpleasant people as I feared. Ugh...people...
While I personally wouldn't mind if Arthur Dayne died, I don't think we should ask Dany to allow it to happen.
[X] Crake
While I personally wouldn't mind if Arthur Dayne died, I don't think we should ask Dany to allow it to happen.
[X] Crake
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[X] Duesal
egoo
Totally Not Creating Problems Where None Existed
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Why do we take "Dany will not like it" over paracticality again?
I mean, sure, she won't.
But does that matter, really?
A single case in an overall extremely positive scheme of things?
Leaving this guy to die is cathartic enough, for me to want to do that for the sheer fact alone.
But it is also a decent choice for our overall goals for Westeros?
Also, this may have been staged to make us act in one way or another.
Few people on Planetos are aware of our sheer spellcasting capacity, and this gathering was probably easy enough to Divine for all sort of parties and guess at our involvement despite the Mindblank.
I mean, sure, she won't.
But does that matter, really?
A single case in an overall extremely positive scheme of things?
Leaving this guy to die is cathartic enough, for me to want to do that for the sheer fact alone.
But it is also a decent choice for our overall goals for Westeros?
Also, this may have been staged to make us act in one way or another.
Few people on Planetos are aware of our sheer spellcasting capacity, and this gathering was probably easy enough to Divine for all sort of parties and guess at our involvement despite the Mindblank.
Crake
I AM THE STORM THAT IS APPROACHING
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It holds very little benefit for us to allow Andrew to die here. Marginal at best.
All we know is someone, likely hostile to our own interests, wanted him to die. The immediate events which follow are likely to make any marginal positives from that death completely moot.
All we know is someone, likely hostile to our own interests, wanted him to die. The immediate events which follow are likely to make any marginal positives from that death completely moot.
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It's honestly a really odd argument.
Dany is not longer innocent by any stretch of the world, and she's just as capable as Viserys of leaving a man to die (hence the vote being an option in the first place instead of DP just presenting us with "it's not IC for Dany to let someone die in front of her"). I could understand arguments that it's not in our best interests to let Dayne die, but Dany being sad about it?
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Could be, but let's be real, there's a million guises we could act under to heal the guy without anyone noticing it was us. Priest of pretty much any God you care to name, wandering mage of some stripe or another, random celestial, the list is endless.
My own suspicion is that this is someone wanting to split pro-magic and anti-magic people and make it too hard to fix. Probably someone in Dayne's own camp who feels the man is being way too honorable about the whole matter and that they need a huge scandal to rally the opposition to magic.
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Then why are we doing it? Why are we casually letting this person die when if needed we can heal him discreetly at range and have Daenerys stealthily hunt down the killer?
EDIT: Ah, egoo wants this man dead because it would be "cathartic". He was slightly inconvenient one time, and so we vote murder?
Yikes. This isn't the Viserys we've built IC.
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Because I hope to coerce him into Doran's favor through resurrection, or remove him entirely. Either one works for us.
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I mean I want him dead so that we can bring him back and give leverage to Doran over Lord Dayne.
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[X]crake
Removing him is not in our interest. At all. Resurrection of devote Sevenites is a crap shoot and we need this man alive, because his death will galvanize support to the extremists. And the extremists can do all sorts of shit they otherwise couldn't, if they get widespread support from idiot lords who suspect Dayne was killed by the Sinister Magic Agenda.
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Goldfish
Friendly Spider-Fish Abomination
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I don't think it's advantageous to us to let him die, else I could overcome my aversion to asking Dany not to intervene with little issue. She's no more a child than Viserys is at this point.
There is too much of a chance that he'll simply refuse a Resurrection attempt if we let him die solely for the purpose of restoring him later.
There is too much of a chance that he'll simply refuse a Resurrection attempt if we let him die solely for the purpose of restoring him later.