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A Sword Without a Hilt: A Song of Ice and Fire/D&D 3.5 Crossover

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Artemis1992 said:
And to think this whole drame could have been avoided if people where taking precautions against Enchantment from the moment they became available.

Seriously, 80% or so of the whole school can be blocked by a simple, low-level spell.
I bet you in the City of Brass there isn't a single Efreeti baby that does not get a PfC amulet in their cradle within their first week. (Tough luck for Ifrit, Azer and various other non-Efreeti and non rich or noble people there)
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Well, that will be a fine piece of equipment to give to all our vassals in the future.
 
Artemis1992 said:
And to think this whole drame could have been avoided if people where taking precautions against Enchantment from the moment they became available.

Seriously, 80% or so of the whole school can be blocked by a simple, low-level spell.
I bet you in the City of Brass there isn't a single Efreeti baby that does not get a PfC amulet in their cradle within their first week. (Tough luck for Ifrit, Azer and various other non-Efreeti and non rich or noble people there)
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Nobles generally underestimate magic in general, viewing it with the same lens of superstition and non-ubiquitous utility.

They don't believe it can solve or prevent problems. They think it can only cause them.

It's not entirely wrong, but it's also not something they can ignore. Most of them only get to the point where Lucan wanders over and says "I have a GREAT solution for you!" And offers them the opportunity to abdicate all responsibility of the matter.

If enough nobles abdicate any responsibility to use or moderate the use of magic, the Faith becomes the only real authority that matters. This was the natural conclusion of the entire Faith arc without our intervention.

If we had remained a renegade adventurer, and ignored politics mostly, Lucan would have inevitably caused a civil war, even if he was willfully trying to stay non-political. The concentration of power soft and hard would have curbed the rights of the feudal nobility by rote.
 
tarrangar said:
She's going there though, and she will be the apprentice of a stronger mage, I don't think there are many mages in Dracorys, who don't occasionally fight monsters.

And are we really going to send her there, and then forbid her from helping in the defense of her new home?

What aversion to danger? She might not be the bravest person in the world, but she hasn't showed active aversion to danger.
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Instead of leaving home and braving the dangers of the world, she choose not to. Instead she'd rather mindcontrol her way into a cushioned inheritance.

She wasn't brave enough to risk her own well being for freedom, she wasn't just enough to risk it for others, etc. A person motivated by greed and self preservation would not be motivated to fighting monsters when they are not aware that adversity actively rewards risk takers.
 
Azurath said:
Instead of leaving home and braving the dangers of the world, she choose not to. Instead she'd rather mindcontrol her way into a cushioned inheritance.

She wasn't brave enough to risk her own well being for freedom, she wasn't just enough to risk it for others, etc. A person motivated by greed and self preservation would not be motivated to fighting monsters when they are not aware that adversity actively rewards risk takers.
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That's one possibility, another is that she hate her mother and sister, but do care for the fief, and so didn't want to see it in the hands of her asshole older sister.
 
One Autumn Leaf said:
Well, that will be a fine piece of equipment to give to all our vassals in the future.
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Not just them.

Everyone who can afford at least the cheap version (Just anti-compulsion, no boni vs Evil) should get one, preferably for their whole family.
If we try to get as many as possible cheaply on the market I hote that eventually most people have some.
Crake said:
If we had remained a renegade adventurer, and ignored politics mostly, Lucan would have inevitably caused a civil war, even if he was willfully trying to stay non-political. The concentration of power soft and hard would have curbed the rights of the feudal nobility by rote.
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Keep in mind that staying an adventurer would not certainly have stopped from killing Lucan anyway, for an OG boon or something like that.

Besides, they'd propably have larger trouble, being under Asmodeus/Elder Brains/Others control by now.
 
Azel said:
I'm pretty sure there's already a de facto assembly line for PfEs in one of the Scholariums rooms. Everyone who can afford one has one and a good number of people get them as part of their government jobs.
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We've largely moved away from producing them in bulk ourselves. Instead, we've been ordering them in batches of 100 for the last couple months. We should consider increasing that to even more per order when we place our next commission.

EDIT: Deciding on distribution of those we already have is difficult. Who should get them? How many need them now, who can wait a month or two, etc.
 
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Goldfish said:
We've largely moved away from producing them in bulk ourselves. Instead, we've been ordering them in batches of 100 for the last couple months. We should consider increasing that to even more per order when we place our next commission.
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How expensive was the stripped-down version again?

What we need in masses is the Anti-compulsion/charm effect. Most merchants and lower nobles won't care about a minor bonus to saves and AC.
 
Goldfish said:
We've largely moved away from producing them in bulk ourselves. Instead, we've been ordering them in batches of 100 for the last couple months. We should consider increasing that to even more per order when we place our next commission.

EDIT: Deciding on distribution of those we already have is difficult. Who should get them? How many need them now, who can wait a month or two, etc.
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Yeah, but it's also a quick way for low-level crafters to make a buck and I'd assume they do so when not actively working for the crown.
 
Azel said:
Yeah, but it's also a quick way for low-level crafters to make a buck and I'd assume they do so when not actively working for the crown.
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Good point. We only work our crafters 8 hours per day, 25 days per month, so they could easily moonlight and do a lot of enchanting on the side if they don't value their free time too much.
 
Goldfish said:
Good point. We only work our crafters 8 hours per day, 25 days per month, so they could easily moonlight and do a lot of enchanting on the side if they don't value their free time too much.
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Personally I would see about getting myself a Wight, render 25 days of enchanting to the Emperor as I'm obliged to, and let it produce stuff to sell on the remaining 5 days.

My actual time would be a mix of trying to set up a business, learning, and living a good life from all the enchanting income.
 
Azel said:
Personally I would see about getting myself a Wight, render 25 days of enchanting to the Emperor as I'm obliged to, and let it produce stuff to sell on the remaining 5 days.

My actual time would be a mix of trying to set up a business, learning, and living a good life from all the enchanting income.
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The feat requirements to make a Dedicated Wright are pretty steep, and most people have turned down our offer to provide one for them, as the ritual to bind it causes two points of Constitution Drain.
 
Goldfish said:
The feat requirements to make a Dedicated Wright are pretty steep, and most people have turned down our offer to provide one for them, as the ritual to bind it causes two points of Constitution Drain.
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I'm not sure if I'd go for the drain myself, but the Feats are something I'd want anyway.

Unless I decided to become a Lich. Screw CON scores.
 
Azel said:
I'm not sure if I'd go for the drain myself, but the Feats are something I'd want anyway.

Unless I decided to become a Lich. Screw CON scores.
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Oh, if you're going the crafting route, it's a no-brainer to get those feats in order to create a Dedicated Wright, but most of our crafters aren't a high enough level to have all of the necessary feats. Thankfully, all of the master crafters we have hired are high enough level to have created their own Wrights.
 
Azel said:
There's the Iron Lich, but that needs you to munch on souls.

Though we do have that mind to construct transfwr ritual, so you could get yourself a neat Warforged body.
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Yeah, that was what I had in mind.

From what I understand constructs don't normally have souls in the normal sense (though Warforged seem to), but that ritual puts a flesh-and-blood person into a construct body. Soul magic could potentially be used on them.
 
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