A Sword Without a Hilt: A Song of Ice and Fire/D&D 3.5 Crossover
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Well, this makes me really freaking smug about our crafting equipping so many essential personnel in the Imperium. Also yessss, gimme that lore.
[X] All of it, more knowledge is always useful, all the more so for coming from a unique source
-[X] Take care to only copy any lore present, though - best not to leave anyone a connection to scry on.
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When you think about making a spell bomb for the hordes of undead but spell storing only goes up to fight level spells...feels bad man.
Cote closed.
Seriously though, this actually kind of pisses me off. In the "lets skip recruiting GC survivors and just Tor them" sense. Being capable of looking someone in the eye and then passing them off to be subjected to undeath, with full understanding of what that means, completely removes any sympathy I have for someone.
Their tragic backstory can get worked into a mirror play to warn others against following in their footsteps, but otherwise they're demoted to materials. Demonstrating why they should pay their debt to society through community service instead of blood is their problem, not ours.
Their tragic backstory can get worked into a mirror play to warn others against following in their footsteps, but otherwise they're demoted to materials. Demonstrating why they should pay their debt to society through community service instead of blood is their problem, not ours.
egoo
Totally Not Creating Problems Where None Existed
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...Hey, @DragonParadox, does inventing horrific weapons of mass-destruction, technically, still give power to Zathir as a "great invention"?
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Not really no, the destruction part breaks the conceptual link, that is the case with making weapons in general.
egoo
Totally Not Creating Problems Where None Existed
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Wasn't that the case to begin with, though?
We very pointedly killed any remaining sensible ones in Essaria long ago - the ones with GC right now almost all revel in slaughter, rape and pillaging in random order - and worship Tiamat, at that.
Even that kid whom we got with the asshole Fleshwarper isn't really flippable to our side at this point, not without dedicated diplomatic effort - and those in GC rn will need the same amount of care and Divination the ones we sent off to the Wall do.
As in, "the totally unacceptable" amount of resources/time/attention.
TLDR: They die, and that was a given for a while.
This on-screen sight of their assholishness is just that- an on-screen show of what was implied awhile.
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@DragonParadox, do we have a vague sense of how strong Pol Ning is?
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Minor inconsistency in the last chapter, we mention Tiamat directly by name when we have in all other cases gone to pains to avoid that.
Fixed, thanks.
tarrangar
Fat arctic chicken
@DragonParadox Is it a secret whether she's actually free willed, or whether she's been brain washed into loyalty to her killers?
I would like to know how much I should hate them, and how competent they are, it's would be both eviler and more competent of them, if they brain washed her into being loyal to them.
It's not really IC information which is why I did not want to coment, but seeing as Melisandre is there and can observe the Sarnori
*rolls knowledge religion*
Elyra would have been free willed, her captors are delusional, not a condition limited to the living by any stretch of the imagination
tarrangar
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Then I expect she's either plotting against them, or already defected, the only reason I can see for her staying with them, is if she plan to betray them as revenge.
Or she attacked them and got killed a second time.
The reason she is staying with them is because she is a bound and drugged commoner surrounded by high CR undead, she has neither been sacrificed not become undead as of right now.
egoo
Totally Not Creating Problems Where None Existed
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...to be honest, I'm kinda sad she'll likely get saved by Melisande & Co.
Sure, it's a horrible, horrible fate - but we'd get the prospective "willing Sentient Undead" needed for a Research to make them safe to keep around - and we'd be able to revert her to life again with little effort, what with Miracle and Wyla's research on hand.
And she'd be PC-able immediately from the trauma...
Ah, what potential wast- saved.
tarrangar
Fat arctic chicken
Oh I thought she was already dead and raised as an undead.
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So can Mel cast Sacramental Seal because that will be useful here.
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She should definitely have access to it. IIRC she's a Cleric of the Eighth Circle.
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Good she has a method to take out one creature at the least.
Crake
I AM THE STORM THAT IS APPROACHING
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"They would take it ill if your barbarian King got his hands on this lore. I mean, not that I really mind that. It's his neck."
*Viserys internally*
'Corlys', trying very hard not to laugh in her face: "I don't think that will be a problem."
*Viserys internally*
'Corlys', trying very hard not to laugh in her face: "I don't think that will be a problem."
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Well, Sarnor has many thousands of undeads and as the loremasters of Sallosh showed they are not all crazy.
I'm sure for a promise of new life we can get a few volunteers.
Edit: Though this particular group can die in a fire.
Crake
I AM THE STORM THAT IS APPROACHING
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Speaking of those Salloshi loremasters, now that we've done basically the same thing already with our ancestor, we could offer to do so for them. The mages would be just as powerful, minus the undead template, but their presence wouldn't be an active corruption of the world anymore either. And we could make up for any measly loss of CR through equipping them. Kind of hard to argue against that kind of pragmatism!
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Thanks to Qyburn my policy on undead has evolved from "tree them all " to "hey maybe don't be a radioactive pile of shit?"
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Depends on the kind of effort needed for the ritual to revive long-dead undead.
So far we've needed a full costum ritual for each of our revived undead.
Maybe a method for make safe undead would be more efficient. We'll see when we research it.