- Location
- The Star Kingdom of Manticore
What sort of lie would we need to tell to get Qrech to teach wolf Queekish?
Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest
- Thread starter Boney
- Start date
- Fantasy Users' Choice!
Voted best in category in the Users' Choice awards.
- Location
- Australia
That last spell we're missing isn't worth spending an AP on.
Strange9
hdellaverson@gmail.com
- Location
- Los Angeles, CA
[X] [TOWER] Complete
[X] FIEF: Leave the current and future money be.
[X][LIBRARY] Skaven - Dwarf Esoteric, Anatomy - Imperial Esoteric, Dragons - Dwarf, Imperial, and Bretonnian Extensive
[X][PURCHASE] Firkin of top-quality dwarf ale for LM Olenus (5gc)
[X] Plan Present Concerns with Snek
[x] [COLLEGE] No purchase.
Not at all sure what the purchases get us that the seed doesn't already do. Why are we spending 10 favors here?
[X] FIEF: Leave the current and future money be.
[X][LIBRARY] Skaven - Dwarf Esoteric, Anatomy - Imperial Esoteric, Dragons - Dwarf, Imperial, and Bretonnian Extensive
[X][PURCHASE] Firkin of top-quality dwarf ale for LM Olenus (5gc)
[X] Plan Present Concerns with Snek
[x] [COLLEGE] No purchase.
Not at all sure what the purchases get us that the seed doesn't already do. Why are we spending 10 favors here?
- Location
- The Surface Of A Hostile Planet
In this case, I think it is. We'd feel really dumb if there was some elven technique that builds on Cloak Activity that we wouldn't be able to perform. Same for Shadow of Death.
They aren't worth it on their own, but the incidental benefits of having every single known Grey Spell below battlemagic learned shouldn't be disregarded.
- Location
- Around here
- Pronouns
- He/Him
How to Learn Queekish
Step 1: Give Qrech a puppy. Done!
Step 2: Qretch baby-talks to the puppy in Queekish, teaching it vocabulary.
Step 3: Wolf learns Queekish from the puppy.
Step 4: We teach Wolf Reikspeil.
Step 5: Wolf teaches us Queekish.
It's flawless!
Step 1: Give Qrech a puppy. Done!
Step 2: Qretch baby-talks to the puppy in Queekish, teaching it vocabulary.
Step 3: Wolf learns Queekish from the puppy.
Step 4: We teach Wolf Reikspeil.
Step 5: Wolf teaches us Queekish.
It's flawless!
- Location
- Australia
That sounds like a very specific and not particularly plausible scenario. Better to put that AP into making a new spell.
- Location
- Aotearoa
Our College Rep exceeds our Dwarf Rep for the first time ever.
also....
Noice.
It seems to me that perhaps Rep should be harder to accumulate as your reputation increasingly precedes you. You can recharge and exchange and trade Favour just fine, on a 1-for-1 basis, but are people really as impressed by repetition of past glories? Do we think more of a Bright Lord Magister when they slay yet another Beastman Lord? The bar has been set.
Maybe as one grows in repute, the 'cap' of Reputation increases by less than the full 'Favour Worth' of the deed. There can always be exceptions for truly grand, bar-raising achievements.
[X] FIEF: Have the Steward forward taxes to you via the EIC (50 crowns/turn)
[X] [TOWER] Complete
[][COLLEGE] Item of Boon of Hysh - 5 College Favor
[][COLLEGE] Item of Ill-bane - 3 College Favor
[X][PURCHASE] Firkin of top-quality dwarf ale for LM Olenus (5gc)
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Our new arcane mark makes us more vulnerable to poison gas. There is an enemy faction known for their use of gas weapons and we can get a lot of use from arson as a saboteur. Since there are no air purifier spells people are fixating on poison cure spells.
- Location
- Australia
@picklepikkl thanks for campaigning as hard as you did for the ale purchase.
Sinsystems
Patron Librarian
So I had an idea for a Warrior of Fog Battle Magic spell, which I am tentatively calling Fae Fog.
The inspiration of this spell is the classic fairy fog situation where a person wanders into a fog bank or forest or something and then ends up getting completely lost to the point that they can't find their way out. Sometimes there is also a bit of a weird time effect like them having been gone for days but to them it was only a few hours or them thinking it's been days when they've only been gone for an hour or so.
In practice this proposed spell would create a large Fog Bank that essentially does that, namely any living creature that wanders into the fog will get hopelessly lost and unable to leave no matter how much they try or at the very least unless they manage to make a very hard saving throw. It would probably also ruin any formations as those lost within the fog become separated so that when the fog does eventually clear the enemies within are all scattered and vulnerable to being charged.
The purpose is basically to make a flank practically impassible for a time or point at a section of the enemy army and go "You, I don't want to deal with you now so begone!" which can make all the difference in a battle.
Plus if we figure this out we can probably turn it into a defensive measure with a tower or something, which would be fun.
So @BoneyM does that sound like it would fit into a potential Warrior of Fog spell?
The inspiration of this spell is the classic fairy fog situation where a person wanders into a fog bank or forest or something and then ends up getting completely lost to the point that they can't find their way out. Sometimes there is also a bit of a weird time effect like them having been gone for days but to them it was only a few hours or them thinking it's been days when they've only been gone for an hour or so.
In practice this proposed spell would create a large Fog Bank that essentially does that, namely any living creature that wanders into the fog will get hopelessly lost and unable to leave no matter how much they try or at the very least unless they manage to make a very hard saving throw. It would probably also ruin any formations as those lost within the fog become separated so that when the fog does eventually clear the enemies within are all scattered and vulnerable to being charged.
The purpose is basically to make a flank practically impassible for a time or point at a section of the enemy army and go "You, I don't want to deal with you now so begone!" which can make all the difference in a battle.
Plus if we figure this out we can probably turn it into a defensive measure with a tower or something, which would be fun.
So @BoneyM does that sound like it would fit into a potential Warrior of Fog spell?
Quest
The Great One
- Location
- Everywhere
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[X] [TOWER] Complete
[X] FIEF: Leave the current and future money be.
[X][PURCHASE] Firkin of top-quality dwarf ale for LM Olenus (5gc)
[X] Plan Present Concerns With Cartography
[X] Plan Present Concerns
[X][PURCHASE] Firkin of top-quality dwarf ale for LM Olenus (5gc) and post a 500 gc bounty on Barak Varr/through the EIC for quality dragon bones that would be suitable for staff making and, as a secondary objective, talisman crafting.
[X] FIEF: Leave the current and future money be.
[X][PURCHASE] Firkin of top-quality dwarf ale for LM Olenus (5gc)
[X] Plan Present Concerns With Cartography
[X] Plan Present Concerns
[X][PURCHASE] Firkin of top-quality dwarf ale for LM Olenus (5gc) and post a 500 gc bounty on Barak Varr/through the EIC for quality dragon bones that would be suitable for staff making and, as a secondary objective, talisman crafting.
- Location
- The Surface Of A Hostile Planet
Sounds a lot like an existing High Magic Spell.
Article:
- Glamour of Teclis - This spell can be cast on any one individual or group within 36 yards. Those affected believe themselves to be lost in a realm of mist and shadows, and are unable to remember where they are or what they are supposed to be doing. To outside observers they appear to wander in a daze, unable to see or hear anything around them; if struck or shaken they will show fear but will not attempt to defend themselves. To those targeted by the spell, it is as if a dense mist has risen. Through this, strange and sometimes threatening shadows move, just on the edge of sight. They feel as if they have always been in this mist, stalked by creatures that never attack. Memories of the real world and their lives before the mist are vague or nonexistent. After sufficient time, the caster can give a command to the target to move in a particular direction for the duration of the spell. At the end of that time (if the targets haven't walked over a cliff or fallen into a fire) the victims will come back to reality with no memory of how they reached their present location.[7d]
SuperSonicSound
Shadowmancer of the Shadow Cabal
[X] Plan Present Concerns with Snek
TimEd
Meteor maker
but that is redundant in the face of our Seed. Any drawbacks the Seed has will I assume be similar to any cheaper item we can get, due to them not being Ulgu right?
And arent we already pushing at the Max amount of Enchanted items? Only thing we need is an upgrade to our Enchanted robes.
- Location
- Germany
[X] [TOWER] Complete
[X] FIEF: Leave the current and future money be.
[X][LIBRARY] Skaven - Dwarf Esoteric, Anatomy - Imperial Esoteric, Dragons - Dwarf, Imperial, and Bretonnian Extensive
[X][PURCHASE] Firkin of top-quality dwarf ale for LM Olenus (5gc)
[X] Plan Present Concerns
[X][COLLEGE] Item of Boon of Hysh - 5 College Favor
[X] FIEF: Leave the current and future money be.
[X][LIBRARY] Skaven - Dwarf Esoteric, Anatomy - Imperial Esoteric, Dragons - Dwarf, Imperial, and Bretonnian Extensive
[X][PURCHASE] Firkin of top-quality dwarf ale for LM Olenus (5gc)
[X] Plan Present Concerns
[X][COLLEGE] Item of Boon of Hysh - 5 College Favor
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Sinsystems
Patron Librarian
I suppose although my proposed spell is less "Mind screw you into wandering around lost" and more "Designate an area, anyone who enters it won't be leaving for a while".
Honestly if I could figure out how i'd add a time dilation effect so that those within end up wandering for hours even though only a few minutes have passed.
Yes it is. There is an argument that with a bad poison in an extensive area we could have to take a lot of breaths and if each breath can drop us we'll need a fuckton of charges but I don't think base favour cost items measure their charges in fucktons.
Hmm, shiny, if rather morbid.
Wonder how that works.
As I understand it, for staves we basically have:
-Bog Standard Staff. +1 Magic when we're at Magic 8 isn't worth anything, not even worth the AP until we pick up another +Magic trait.
-Fancy Staff. It gives +1 Magic and has additional features, depending on the fancy construction.
Furthermore, generic staves attune to an owner's style of magic over time and that likely means if you make staves for other people you're basically going to make something as generic as possible, otherwise the staff probably attunes to the maker unless you had the would-be user sit in for study the whole time.
So lets see about the staff materials and reagents(note ALL speculation only):
-Wood - Vanilla option, pretty sure to work without complications. Just don't go using it to hit things.
-Metal - Barring some magical metal it'd just provide a staff that's also sturdy enough to use as a weapon if need be. Downside being a R&D project of its own to figure out what metal even works.
-Dragonbone - PRETTY strong(as bone goes anyway), adaptable to any Wind because dragons are Eevees, but on the same basis, whatever special effects comes out probably comes down to what techniques you use to craft it, unless you have other rare materials then maybe it'd amplify those.
-Windstone(Complete) - We know Windstones act as magic capacitors/batteries, they also channel their Wind quite efficiently, being solidified Wind, though I'm not sure how volatile the windstone is to damage. This should probably reflect as stored wind charges giving favorable casting environment.
-Windstone(Incomplete) - Adela uses the gaseous condensation state as an Aqshy channel and it apparently works well enough. We know theres some flawed Windstones that can only attract Ulgu but not actually store it. So assume a complete windstone minus one or more functions.
-Null Magic Gem - Now, remember, a stave is also used to ground magical energies on a miscast, not just channel magic when you cast. Something magically non-reactive may be one of the better ways to ground the rampaging magic, or allows us to well...poke the magic with a stick without exploding the stick.
--Alternatively, if you have a magic attractor on one end and a magic repeller on the other, you have basically a Wind Pump. That might have uses for casting range amplification?
-Aethyric Vitae - Its a huge mystery box, but we know for a fact that we don't want to use raw vitae as a structural component, because it becomes an expanding cloud of all the winds explosively when you run any Wind through it, and worse, if you miscast the whole thing curdles into Dhar, but we could probably include a receptacle to consume vials of the stuff for power boosts like ammunition. We have no idea how it'd work if we could condense it into a solid state, so this is guesswork past that.
I'm going off the threadmarked spellbook description which says it fixes all maladies.
We don't have a use for a basic staff is kind of the thing. Until we hit Magic 9 without a staff(where our main likely cause is hitting an Arcane Mark gacha jackpot instead of the FML items) we'd rather use the Grounding Rod.
Actually, I suspect Belegar simply doesn't quite realize that "if you build it they will come" has some difficulties when it comes to moving large groups of human civilians across the Border Princes/Badlands. Dwarf culture has everyone theoretically willing and able to fight. A dwarf prospective migrant just needs to join a caravan moving in the right direction and be considered an asset to the team.
A human civilian migrant has to pay their way.
Easily solved by actually sponsoring caravans of migrants.
Though Edda's weavers are likely going to have a sizable number of women at least.
But we can't inform the dwarves of that unless we validate it separately instead of claiming magical divination on objects
I'm pretty sure the problem isn't insufficient nitrates here, it sounds a lot like the soil is just depleted of biomass, so it can't hold water well, and we'd find it difficult to import significant quantities of raw manure.
Sweet staffs are actually something that Ulthuan should be able to provide. The question we need to ask ourselves is whether the whole staff making adventure is something fun to spend AP and words on or just busywork we could skip by sacrificing some of our Shadow Warrior time on it.