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A Sword Without a Hilt: A Song of Ice and Fire/D&D 3.5 Crossover

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Well, judging by lack of negative comments to the idea, I'm adding talking to Smith's Chosen next month, then.
In person, but after extensive DIvination on his supply lines.

Worst case, we remain cordial, but he gets lore that will keep more people alive by the time we come.
Best case, Brienne.
 
In frankness I know that we can't handle all of Westeros's bullshit...at least not without conquering it. Ideally the Smith boy would be used as a sort of buffer/other target so that we can buy some time before Westeros explodes. It might be paranoia but something tells me that we are due for a disaster in Westeros. One as bad as White Harbour. In fact @egoo could you do a divination chain for the various unknown adventurers in Westeros? Recruitment isn't something I am interested in. I want to fund them as extra buffers to stall for time or stop disasters.
 
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egoo said:
Well, judging by lack of negative comments to the idea, I'm adding talking to Smith's Chosen next month, then.
In person, but after extensive DIvination on his supply lines.

Worst case, we remain cordial, but he gets lore that will keep more people alive by the time we come.
Best case, Brienne.
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Thank you.

More Paranoia : the Yellow Emperor is temporarily allied with Asmodeus and is releasing devils into the world. Devil plots will never cease while he lives.
 
Oh hey, nice Chosen you got there. Sure would be a shame were someone to.. Appropriate them. This kid shows promise. Though neutrality is probably the most realistic notion.
 
TalonofAnathrax said:
the Yellow Emperor
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Stop right there, I have no desire to involve ourselves in that mess along all the others we are dealing with.

Yi-Ti is far away, plz let's not make another powerful enemy before we take out Illithids at least >_<

...but for real, I think we can let it lie for a while, I don't think we got nearly enouygh levels/Mythic Ranks to meet face to face with someone who kept himself High-magic while everywhere else it was outright Dead.
Nickan said:
Sure would be a shame were someone to.. Appropriate them.
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egoo said:
[] Have a meeting with the Chosen of Smith, in person.
-[] Extensively divine irregular points of interest about him and his works - just in case, since one favored by Smith can prepare far more of a trap than a regular cleric.
--[] Check his supply routes, from where he gets the materials for enchanting - and the peopel he interacts with along the way, including thise he gives the items to. Such spell as Hindisight may come especially in handy if he interacted with someone protected by Mindblank, giving us at least a clue to investigate.
-[] If no suspicious activity is detected via divination, meet with him - the focus of the meeting is setting up at least cordial relationship with the Chosen, and ensurign he focues on bigger threats to people of Westeros than us.
--[] Sharing with him our wast array of Lore on Enemies of All (Devils, Demons, Daemons, Others, Illithid, Fey, Rakshasa, Tiamat, etc.-) is a big aspect of this. There is also potential of directly sponsoring him if all goes well...
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Though they had not gone well the Chosen had taken that for a sign to try experimenting with reinforcing materials through the blessing of his god to see what new solutions he might find to old problems.
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To be effective one needs...

To affect the world on such a scale. To bring about change. He needs people to be willing to listen to him. To implement change on wide scale when he finds a novel and effective solution to a problem. Rather than only fixing what is within his grasp.
 
As lovely as all this conversation is I am curious. Who has he made weapons for? I know the whole "Shield of men" thing but that isn't really important to me. I was kind of hoping for names tbh.
 
While we're doing divinations, can we try to check on Lucan? I still kind of expect him to show up to the reconquest with two of these guys, or something like them, which will then burn XP to try and curse Viserys into Valyrian dragonhood or something.

If I wanted to be extra paranoid, I'd start worrying about items of increased action economy from the smith kid. Dual cast wish and miracle from each empyrean angel as a surprise round maybe? It's not like we have room to complain about WBLomancy.

Even if he can't, I'd still bet on surprise angel commando forces being on the menu. We can't be everywhere at once, so he just needs them to be barely powerful enough to teleport and cast AoE spells to kill loads of legionaries. Lucan isn't stupid, and the odds that he can oppose the empire using guys with barely any experience is ludicrous. He has to be working on acquiring better tools at this point.

Edit: I'm serious about the CR 20 angels by the way. We took a partial party to handle a similarly powerful Oblivion, it was hard but we still did it. The invasion will be a full part event backed by multiple armies that are by most accounts better than anything they can reasonably face. The seven hate us, and fear what we will do post conquest. They should be offering great rates for this kind of summons, especially if the biggest ones only show up for the main event. He could be gathering components and setting up ritual sites right now, and we wouldn't know because he's got divine backing for the major parts. Given these resources, how would we handle Viserys grade bullshit?
 
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BronzeTongue said:
While we're doing divinations, can we try to check on Lucan? I still kind of expect him to show up to the reconquest with two of these guys, or something like them, which will then burn XP to try and curse Viserys into Valyrian dragonhood or something.

If I wanted to be extra paranoid, I'd start worrying about items of increased action economy from the smith kid. Dual cast wish and miracle from each empyrean angel as a surprise round maybe? It's not like we have room to complain about WBLomancy.

Even if he can't, I'd still bet on surprise angel commando forces being on the menu. We can't be everywhere at once, so he just needs them to be barely powerful enough to teleport and cast AoE spells to kill loads of legionaries. Lucan isn't stupid, and the odds that he can oppose the empire using guys with barely any experience is ludicrous. He has to be working on acquiring better tools at this point.

Edit: I'm serious about the CR 20 angels by the way. We took a partial party to handle a similarly powerful Oblivion, it was hard but we still did it. The invasion will be a full part event backed by multiple armies that are by most accounts better than anything they can reasonably face. The seven hate us, and fear what we will do post conquest. They should be offering great rates for this kind of summons, especially if the biggest ones only show up for the main event. He could be gathering components and setting up ritual sites right now, and we wouldn't know because he's got divine backing for the major parts. Given these resources, how would we handle Viserys grade bullshit?
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Did you read the conclave or just skim it?
 
zxzx24 said:
Did you read the conclave or just skin it?
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I read it, though it has been a while. What I got from our agreement ( supposing that's what you're referencing) is that we wouldn't be directly acting against each other at the moment, not that we wouldn't be preparing to fight. We are after all actively planning an invasion, why wouldn't he be planning a defense? Just because he's not a frothing fanatic doesn't mean he likes us, or that he's interested in cooperating beyond what he's forced to do.
 
@BronzeTongue While he could do all of that it would also be a terrible idea. For one those angels are probably too old and if they do have them it is probably in smaller numbers. For another attacking our assets and legions is not a game he wants to play because we will escalate by wiping out his entire order. And trust me I will push to wipe it all out. For three we have given each other time. I am sure we can make an angel slaying launchers from the dragon slaying ones. That will be fun to use.
 
BronzeTongue said:
I read it, though it has been a while. What I got from our agreement ( supposing that's what you're referencing) is that we wouldn't be directly acting against each other at the moment, not that we wouldn't be preparing to fight. We are after all actively planning an invasion, why wouldn't he be planning a defense? Just because he's not a frothing fanatic doesn't mean he likes us, or that he's interested in cooperating beyond what he's forced to do.
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He was able to pull a couple of planetars casting miracle out of his ass at the conclave.

Empyreans are...

Mmmm. They are probably a bit TOO powerful honestly.

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Their angels are also usually made from their followers. Which Empyreans explicitly can't be.

And besides. The angels weren't actually interested in fighting us at the conclave. They mostly seemed bored/annoyed.

An empyrean would probably just slap both of us and go back to whatever they were doing.
 
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One Autumn Leaf said:
@BronzeTongue While he could do all of that it would also be a terrible idea. For one those angels are probably too old and if they do have them it is probably in smaller numbers. For another attacking our assets and legions is not a game he wants to play because we will escalate by wiping out his entire order. And trust me I will push to wipe it all out. For three we have given each other time. I am sure we can make an angel slaying launchers from the dragon slaying ones. That will be fun to use.
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He wouldn't necessarily win with that tactic alone, but it could be a viable part of a greater plan. If he had a good assassination plan for example, splitting out attention like that would be useful.

My broader point is that he, and his side, have a particular view of how the world should work that doesn't feature us in any effective capacity. We have enough force to make him deal, but not to make him like it - or stop him from working toward his primary goals.

The cease fire we signed is giving him time to build up after sitting down to have a talk with his mortality in the form of an adult red dragon with sorcerer levels.
zxzx24 said:
He was able to pull a couple of planetars casting miracle out of his ass at the conclave.

Empyreans are...

Mmmm. They are probably a bit TOO powerful honestly.
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He managed to grab them while essentially two steps from a muggle. Maybe that specific example is too much, but expecting him to fizzle out while backed by very enthusiastic gods and left to his own devices is a bad play.
 
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