Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest
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Stranger1950
Worth It
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- Reverse Side of the World
From the look of it, the only to gain from telling them is probably trust. Mathilde telling them what would be a controversial truth is a show of faith from her part. However, Belegar already trust us and we will never impress Kragg or gain his trust, that Dwarf is simply too grim and stubborn. Aside from that, there isn't much to gain to tell them that Ranald was the one who did the heavy lifting. I'm not sure how Dwarf reacts to Ranald, but considering Ranald general reputation, I'm rather skeptical that Belebro and Kragge will fully appreciate the truth.
As for the social links, I do want to see how Maxxie is doing considering that the archers did rather poorly, enough that Codrin made a rather big fuss regarding it. Aside, from that, I don't have much of an opinion for the other options.
[X] Remain silent.
[X] Join the hunting with Maximilian
[X] Cook with Panoramia and Titus
[X] Hold a Ranaldan religious service
[X] Telling war stories
[X] Gambling
[X] Yes to Shenanigans
As for the social links, I do want to see how Maxxie is doing considering that the archers did rather poorly, enough that Codrin made a rather big fuss regarding it. Aside, from that, I don't have much of an opinion for the other options.
[X] Remain silent.
[X] Join the hunting with Maximilian
[X] Cook with Panoramia and Titus
[X] Hold a Ranaldan religious service
[X] Telling war stories
[X] Gambling
[X] Yes to Shenanigans
Ganurath
Literal Enthusiast
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Sounds like the Lore of Light's wheelhouse. How bitter are we toward Sunshine's order?
Also, why did you vote No Shenanigans?!
tho in a weird way it would have made this vote easer
Enemy no1 for Greenskins is aliy no1 for dwarfs
- Location
- Berkeley
We are not dealing with scenario: all Orks gain hatred: Mathilde, but the fact that we're not dealing with scenario: Ork-goblin civil war didn't stop one from starting up on our doorstep, and while we know that the OOC reason for them all turning on us was a nat 100 on their reaction IC it could easily be due to Mork giving them a general target. Add in the hands of Mork beating the shit out of them for failing to get to us/the expedition and I think it's fair to say there are decent odds Mork lays at least some of the blame on the expedition...
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- some computer lab
Firstly, I haven't seen a single person talking about romancing Belegar, because that would be pretty silly, secondly, I was under the impression that we were playing as a human in this quest, rather than some perfectly logical robot.
slayers are predominantly caused by broken oaths, which are sometimes impossible to keep, not just the fact that there are grudges in the book of grudges.
- Location
- USA
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Edit: The amount of options and the changes to how you manage votes make cleaning this up a pain. I think it got it all.
Edit: The amount of options and the changes to how you manage votes make cleaning this up a pain. I think it got it all.
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avatar11792
Et Sic Incipit
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- Planet Earth, North America
[X] Remain silent.
[X] Join the hunting with Maximilian
[X] Cook with Panoramia and Titus
[X] Hold a Ranaldan religious service
[X] Telling war stories
[X] Gambling
[X] Yes to Shenanigans
[X] Join the hunting with Maximilian
[X] Cook with Panoramia and Titus
[X] Hold a Ranaldan religious service
[X] Telling war stories
[X] Gambling
[X] Yes to Shenanigans
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- He/Him
Can we narrow an effectively infinite list of possibilities down?
Not really.
Therefore, it doesn't matter what might happen. We can't even guess beyond stuff that might happen because of the crazy nature of Greenskins anyway.
chocolote12
A Penguin Flailing Against The Keyboard Of Life.
I'm not really a fan of the way most Silence voters have gone about making their arguments, but after reading your post I've reluctantly come around to acknowledging that it may just be better to be silent this time anyways. Even the appearance of vote relitigation can cause justifiably sore feelings that I've been on the other end of, and the dwarves don't know enough to understand why us telling them this makes us so cool, so even if I were only going for a total ego-vote it wouldn't really be that fun to win and get the best case result.
[X] Remain silent.
[X] Hold a Ranaldan religious service
In the future, though, we've definitely got to use the Protector side of the coin. Boosting our fame is profitable and enjoyable, and we deserve more credit for all the things we end up accidentally risking our lives to do.
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Guile
Having a really great time right now
The wiki says stuff like, "The loss of a single family member or a hoard of treasures is inconsolable to a Dwarf, a fate that can seriously unhinge their obsessive minds. Eventually these burdens become far to heavy to bear, and a Dwarf would eventually snap, making him forswear the fellowship and comforts of family, clan, and hold, opting instead for a life of self-imposed exile. They take the Slayer Oath."
The idea that their loved ones died and their Karaks were taken because of something a fellow Dwarf did seems like it would unhinge more than a few otherwise-hanging-in-there Dwarfs.
[X] Remain silent.
[X] Join the hunting with Esbern and Seija
[X] Join the hunting with Maximilian
[X] 'Make sure the ale hasn't gone bad' with Skaroki
[X] Telling war stories
[X] Gambling
[X] Play with a giant wolf
[X] Help move the Karag Nar hoard
[X] Yes to Shenanigans
I'd like to get a chance to catch up with some Journeymanlings, and definitely want to see how Puppy gets along with Big Wolf.
[X] Join the hunting with Esbern and Seija
[X] Join the hunting with Maximilian
[X] 'Make sure the ale hasn't gone bad' with Skaroki
[X] Telling war stories
[X] Gambling
[X] Play with a giant wolf
[X] Help move the Karag Nar hoard
[X] Yes to Shenanigans
I'd like to get a chance to catch up with some Journeymanlings, and definitely want to see how Puppy gets along with Big Wolf.
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- He/Him
Slayers have become slayers for failure alone.
When Neferata and her brood attacked the Silver Pinnacle the king and his surviving warriors and bodyguards became slayers before their last fight for failing their hold, people, and families.
Slayers are made because of shame, which encompasses more than just oaths.
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I think the arguement style is actually are real issue. I feel like the ... friendliness of the discourse has been getting worse. Maybe it's because people get really into Important Decisions, but I kinda want something inconsequential for an update or two just so people can calm down a little.
Ganurath
Literal Enthusiast
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Yet another argument for the "Remain silent" vote, if you think about it.
Theunderbolt
"Prepare for trouble..."
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- USoA
[X] Remain silent.
[X] Join the hunting with Maximilian
[X] Cook with Panoramia and Titus
[X] Hold a Ranaldan religious service
[X] Telling war stories
[X] Gambling
[X] Yes to Shenanigans
[X] Join the hunting with Maximilian
[X] Cook with Panoramia and Titus
[X] Hold a Ranaldan religious service
[X] Telling war stories
[X] Gambling
[X] Yes to Shenanigans
I will admit that the longer it went I started getting more heated then making the best arguments.
add on the fact that I started the arguments feeling Jibed and... well.
chocolote12
A Penguin Flailing Against The Keyboard Of Life.
Actually, the first rule of Ranald Worship is the 10% tithing one.
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- some computer lab
that is due to the king and company feeling that they had failed in their oaths as king and company, which is an entirely different thing from "our enemies did something bad at some point lets go be slayers"
[X] Remain silent.
The argument that convinced me here was the Chaos Dwarves. The possibility of opening up a new grudge that can't be dealt with would be rather bad. Also I remember when Teclis brought up Chaos Dwarves to Gotrek, he very nearly got his head split open right there.
The other thing is that I want Mathilde to look good and talking about being possessed and possibly nearly exploding or something doesn't make you look good. Best to be the typical Grey Wizard and stand around silently and look like you know what's going on.
[x] Telling war stories
[x] Sparring
[x] Target shooting
[x] Put on a magic display (Petty and Lesser only)
[x] Play with a giant wolf
[x] Gambling
[x] Hold a Ranaldan religious service
[X] 'Make sure the ale hasn't gone bad' with Skaroki
[X] 'Make sure the ale hasn't gone bad' with Johann
The argument that convinced me here was the Chaos Dwarves. The possibility of opening up a new grudge that can't be dealt with would be rather bad. Also I remember when Teclis brought up Chaos Dwarves to Gotrek, he very nearly got his head split open right there.
The other thing is that I want Mathilde to look good and talking about being possessed and possibly nearly exploding or something doesn't make you look good. Best to be the typical Grey Wizard and stand around silently and look like you know what's going on.
[x] Telling war stories
[x] Sparring
[x] Target shooting
[x] Put on a magic display (Petty and Lesser only)
[x] Play with a giant wolf
[x] Gambling
[x] Hold a Ranaldan religious service
[X] 'Make sure the ale hasn't gone bad' with Skaroki
[X] 'Make sure the ale hasn't gone bad' with Johann
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The Most 'Ated 'Umie
- Location
- Derna
The Most 'Ated 'Umie
In the bare land of the Chaos wastes, one unmistakable keep stands tall. Built by thousands of damned souls, guarded by hundreds of those most favored by the Ruinous Powers, and home to their most hated champion.
That's one corner.
And in the other, a lone Norscan with a blood-red beard, doomed to walk eternal.
It's a fair fight.
And Wulfrik the Wanderer smiles one of his cursed smiles. His voice carries without effort. "Face me, you onion-eyed oaf."
The gates open, and there's a shimmer of anticipation in the air, a slight breeze.
At least, that's what Wulfrik thinks. He doesn't see the gray figure behind him, doesn't hear the illusionary hoofbeats. He grips Torgald's ancient blade a little harder. He has slain countless heroes and monsters, he will slay countless more. One will be his doom, but not this o-
Wait. Wha-
"-AAAAAGGGHH."
When the greenskins on their divine mission finally place the immortal duelist down, he stands on the very western tip of Norsca and watches them storm into the sea, some swimming with divine strength and others lashing together rafts. The shadowy horse-pegasus-thing hovers on the horizon, just close enough to keep the pursuers hopeful.
And as he summons his ship, Wulfrik can't help but wonder where it is leading them next.
---
"Malekith?"
"Yes, mother?"
"Do you hear that?"
Hmm. Strange. It couldn't be an army on the march, no rhythm to the beats. Perhaps some sort of warp storm. Nag garoth can be...unstable. Nothing to fear.
A trace of magic seeps into sight. Very weak, but strange and uncomfortable. The ambient magic of the Asur and their toys, not Druchii Dhar. He focuses and spots the lone, silent figure. Perhaps an apprentice sorcerer dabbling in...no, none of his subjects would wear such bland, featureless clothes. Even sorcerers have fashion sense. And behind them...wha-
"-AAAAAAAGGGGGHHHHH!"
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I think it's mainly tied to this being a vote tied to a very divisive vote that literally just happened.
Well than and any time that one book I shall not mention in more than a passing mentioned is brought up but I don't like bringing it up more than I have to.
Ganurath
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Funny, but I think Mathilde would rather leader the orcs on a merry chase through the territory of the mother of all vampires. She is from Stirland, after all.