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Mathilde is an agent of what passes for the Empire's central government. She's one of the few assets that the Empire as an institution actually has that they could directly send. She may be given unusual latitude for a Magister of the Grey College, but her and the journeymanling's presence is the Empire's contribution, and it's a very substantial contribution so far.
Yeah, well, the time for Mathilde to spin it like that to Belegar mostly passed.

She was not directly sent here. She pretty much said it to the Belegar's face. Mathilde's presence follows the general theme of manling forces, if anything, being here in spite of imperial central government's inability to stop bickering between its provinces and religious institutions for a moment and send a proper army to help their allies.

Belagar acknowledged it, talked about in private and publically disparaged Empire's failure to provide any help while praising human who came to help him anyway. Mathilde will get the credit. Colleges will get the credit. Knight of Ulric orders that came here (And renounced their ties with their provinces and their Church to come here, btw) will get the credit, and so will forces of former Stirland army. Finally, humans as a race will get the credit.

Empire's negative rep gain might get some mutigation, maybe even some minor net benefits as a result of most of the above being a part of the Empire on paper and if push comes to the shove, in practice, but Belegar will remember how he came to the Elector Counts and got a flat no. Not, uh... how they said no and then sneakily sent help anyway, or anything like that.
 
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I don't think that's how it works. Everyone could know that there's some Mathilde who kicked major ass and hear all about her exploits, people would just have a hard time remembering actual Mathilde when she's around.
It's not even that. In the book's wording what forgettable takes away is memories of your face. So people will always know Mathias is, but wouldn't be able to see us in a police lineup.
 
I mean the Empire's leadership might take a slight relationship hit but it's inhabitants will probably get a better reputation seriously this is a massive force from all corners of the Empire and they're performing pretty well especially those unproven by Dwarven standards mages.
 
[X] King Belegar Ironhammer
[X] Head Ranger Ulthar Alriksson
[X] Grand Master Ruprecht Wulfhart

[X] Mathilde's Multidimensional Aethyric Projection
 
[X] King Belegar Ironhammer
[X] Grand Master Ruprecht Wulfhart
[X] Panoramia
[X] Head Ranger Ulthar Alriksson

[X] Mathilde's Aethyric Projection
 
[x] King Belegar Ironhammer
[x] Head Ranger Ulthar Alriksson
[x] Grand Master Ruprecht Wulfhart

[X] Mathilde's Malleable Model

I wonder if we'll get to see Clan Angrund Hammerers with the recovery of those gromril hammers before the Expedition is over.
 
I Was getting hopeful for Mathilde's MAP there for a moment, but I see the gap is staying stubbornly open.

Yeah, well, the time for Mathilde to spin it like that to Belegar mostly passed.

She was not directly sent here. She pretty much straight up said it to the Belegar's face. Mathilde's presence follows the general theme of manling forces, if anything, being here in spite of Empire's government inability to stop bickering for a moment and send a proper army to help their allies.

That's true, but part of the 'design' of the Empire is this kind of decentralisation to prevent the subversion or paralysis of part of its leadership being fatal.

This is the Empire's institutional setup working as intended. When one part of the Empire was unable to meet its obligations another part of the power structure stepped in to pick up the slack, because that's what the cultural expectations and incentives are. Mathilde, the Grandmasters, and even Belegar himself might not understand that, but that's the way it is. That's one reason that the Empire doesn't have a strong monolithic central government and instead has lots of semi-autonomous powers.

The dwarves have the same constraints. The High King can't mobilise all of Karaz Ankor. It's up to each individual hold to decide what to send, and nearly all of them sent exactly the same as the Elector Counts, nothing whatsoever.

Something I am surprised by is that the Cult of Sigmar sent nothing, as one of their highest religious commandments is to help the dwarves. I'd expect that if the first phase of the reclamation succeeds, and it no longer seems like a fool's errand, the Cult may go the extra mile to make up for this lapse. The Grand Theogonist would need to do something, otherwise his rivals within the Cult will have a big stick to beat him with. The Cult would also probably be exerting significant pressure on the Sigmarite Elector Counts and mobilising their knightly orders. The street preachers will also be whipping up a storm.

It may also be a good opportunity for the Empire to decide that an overseas adventure is just the thing to distract from internal tensions, particularly with the religious pressure.
 
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Yeah, well, the time for Mathilde to spin it like that to Belegar mostly passed.

She was not directly sent here. She pretty much said it to the Belegar's face. Mathilde's presence follows the general theme of manling forces, if anything, being here in spite of imperial central government's inability to stop bickering between its provinces and religious institutions for a moment and send a proper army to help their allies.

Belagar acknowledged it, talked about in private and publically disparaged Empire's failure to provide any help while praising human who came to help him anyway. Mathilde will get the credit. Colleges will get the credit. Knight of Ulric orders that came here (And renounced their ties with their provinces and their Church to come here, btw) will get the credit, and so will forces of former Stirland army. Finally, humans as a race will get the credit.

Empire's negative rep gain might get some mutigation, maybe even some minor net benefits as a result of most of the above being a part of the Empire on paper and if push comes to the shove, in practice, but Belegar will remember how he came to the Elector Counts and got a flat no. Not, uh... how they said no and then sneakily sent help anyway, or anything like that.
One of the Electors did send a coordinated military force- the Moot.
 
"It's a sign of proper Dwarf planning, diplomacy, and the close alliance with the Empire of the manling Thane Sigmar that they got a manling mage of such caliber to join the expedition. The ore was first heated when the brave Dawi of Zufbar combined forces with the manling lord Van Hal to properly deal with the Zangunaz menace..."
You know, I wanted to see a dwarf perspective on all of this after everything is said and done and this made me want it even more.
 
[X] Mathilde's Multidimensional Aethyric Projection

[X] Mathilde's Aethyric Projection

[x] King Belegar Ironhammer
[x] Head Ranger Ulthar Alriksson
[x] Grand Master Ruprecht Wulfhart


Acronyms are much better than alliterations.

Fite me.
 
[X] Mathilde's Multidimensional Aethyric Projection

[X] Mathilde's Aethyric Projection

[x] King Belegar Ironhammer
[x] Head Ranger Ulthar Alriksson
[x] Grand Master Ruprecht Wulfhart
 
Forgettable: People can't seem to remember your face. Characters who've met you must succeed on an Intelligence Test to recall who you are.
I looked it up, and it seems that forgettable isn't nearly as bad as I'd been remembering it to be. They remember Mathilde, they just have trouble connecting us with her without help.

Really, the one that makes us seem untrustworthy is going to hit a lot harder.
 
That's true, but part of the 'design' of the Empire is this kind of decentralisation to prevent the subversion or paralysis of part of its leadership being fatal.
Fair, I did mention some benefits might fail in Empire's way anyway, that's how these things are on that level.

There, however will be a specific way and a flavor to how these benefits could manifest for the Empire that would be much harder for Elector Counts/Empire to directly make use of. That would've been very different if it was a response from Empire's higher-level goverment to Belegar, rather than a collection of somewhat disparate groups coming his way, unified under a banner of "Empire is fucking this up, we gonna help anyway."

Something I am surprised by is that the Cult of Sigmar sent nothing, as one of their highest religious commandments is to help the dwarves. I'd expect that if the first phase of the reclamation succeeds, and it no longer seems like a fool's errand, the Cult may go the extra mile to make up for this lapse. The Grand Theogonist would need to do something, otherwise his rivals within the Cult will have a big stick to beat him with. The Cult would also probably be exerting significant pressure on the Sigmarite Elector Counts and mobilising their knightly orders. The street preachers will also be whipping up a storm.

It may also be a good opportunity for the Empire to decide that an overseas adventure is just the thing to distract from internal tensions, particularly with the religious pressure.
The whole things is pretty fishy. Villages vanishing, EC's blaming each other, nobody actually knows what actually happening... All this is also happening right at the time when Empress died, apparently from a lethal case of "got killed by grey wizard for being a Von Carstein's patsy."

One of the Electors did send a coordinated military force- the Moot.
Moot is not a part of Stirland, and has no Elector Count.
 
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Moot is not a part of Stirland, and has no Elector Count.

Moot is a full province of the Empire, and the Elder of the moot counts as an elector count.

By the way, the dwarf word for a halfling - grombolgi - is actually very respectful.

Grom - Brave or defiant.

Bolg - Large, fat belly. Also a state of extreme wealth, age and contentment.
 
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There's only a few votes in it for the name vote now, so if you were voting for both Mathilde's Malleable Model and Mathilde's Multidimensional Aethyric Projection in order to keep Mirage Map from winning it would probably be a good idea to remove one of those votes. (Personally I think that Mathilde's MAP is the better of the two)
Adhoc vote count started by Sinsystems on Sep 13, 2019 at 3:09 PM, finished with 446 posts and 143 votes.
 
[X] King Belegar Ironhammer
[X] Head Ranger Ulthar Alriksson
[X] Grand Master Ruprecht Wulfhart
 
The whole things is pretty fishy. Villages vanishing, EC's blaming each other, nobody actually knows what actually happening... All this is also happening right at the time when Empress died, apparently from a lethal case of "got killed by grey wizard for being a Von Carstein's patsy."
We could probably make getting to the bottom of that our next mission when we get back, assuming it hasn't been resolved already.
 
Then I stand corrected. I did make a brief wiki-vote to confirm my statement on the Moot before posting, but I wouldn't be surprised if it is wrong. WH wiki is not exactly the best.

The Elder of the Moot isn't an Elector Count, as they're not a Count and don't get a Runefang, but they are an Elector, and can nominate a member of the Prime Estates/Supreme Court of the Empire.

There's only a few votes in it for the name vote now, so if you were voting for both Mathilde's Malleable Model and Mathilde's Multidimensional Aethyric Projection in order to keep Mirage Map from winning it would probably be a good idea to remove one of those votes. (Personally I think that Mathilde's MAP is the better of the two)

The people who prefer an acronym and are voting for Mathilde's Aethyric Projection may prefer Mathilde's Multidimensional Aethyric Projection to Mathildes Malleable Model.

We could probably make getting to the bottom of that our next mission when we get back, assuming it hasn't been resolved already.

I feel that It's probably best left to Grey Wizards who specialised in Empire politics rather than military special operations.
 
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While it is too far down the list for it to truly matter now, there is one thing that I would like to point out about visiting Panoramia. Namely that going down to visit our journeyman with a measurable level of fangirl right after winning a great victory and inventing a new spell will probably result in a grossly indecent amount of humblebrag,

[X] Panoramia
Naturally, I am all about that shit.

[X] King Belegar Ironhammer
Hey, it's a reasonable authority figure who likes us, those are in short supply these days.

[X] Wolf
And Wolf deserves more pets and belly rubs than he gets.

Clearly, in time all spells shall bear our name. All of them.
I am looking forward to Mathilde's MagnificentlyRaiseMonstrous ex-MortalDeadManifestation. This is another case where ruby text would've been useful...
 
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