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Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest

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[X] Grand Master Ruprecht Wulfhart

[X] Mathilde's Multidimensional Aethyric Projection
[X] Mathildes Malleable Model
 
[X] King Belegar Ironhammer
[X] Wolf
[X] Mathildes Malleable Model
[X] Mathilde's Mapping Mirage
[X] Mathilde's Multidimensional Aethyric Projection
[X] Mathilde's Mirage Map
[X] Mathilde's Aethyric Projection
[X] Mathilde's Aetherial Projection
[X] Multidimensional Aethyric Projection
[X] Mathilde's Aetheyric Projection
 
Atam the Ork said:
Yeah but I rather not slap it on everything.

Like Mathilde's floating feather duster isn't that cool.

Just like to save for more significant.
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The thing is, from what we know, spell invention/codification/publication is exceptionally rare f(at least for humans). That's why after a hundred and forty years it seems that the Grey College only has thirty seven spells it regularly makes available to Magisters, and the great majority of those are probably spells that the High Elves shared.

Spell development appears to be very hard. Creating any spell seems like a major achievement that any wizard would be proud of, particularly one that's generally useful, in the way this one is. A spell doesn't have to be amazingly powerful for it to be worth the College disseminating (indeed, it's likely that if it was too strong they'd keep it secret), but it does have to fill a niche. Given how much simpler than Illusion this spell is, the Grey College would probably see this as a very useful first step to that kind of magic as a learning exercise, as well as being valuable in its own right.
 
Atam the Ork said:
Yeah but I rather not slap it on everything.

Like Mathilde's floating feather duster isn't that cool.

Just like to save for more significant.
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If we invent a spell that can autonomously clean things without us having to put any effort into it you'd bet I'd want to put our name on it.

Any sort of spell, down to 'literally this is just a conjured pencil' (Mathilde's Magic Marker?) is valuable and worth putting our name on.

I want our name on so many spells apprentices just start assuming that any sort of spell with alliteration in it is ours.
Atam the Ork said:
Do we honestly care about brand awareness for minor spells?
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The more minor a spell is, the better, because those are the ones that everyone can actually use in day to day life. Nobody goes around busting out Occam's Mindrazor every Tuesday, but Mathilde's Malleable Model should be a staple of every command tent in the civilized world.
torac said:
Would having her name plastered everywhere help if Mathilde gets the Arcane Mark that makes her forgettable?
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Also, this. Having Mathilde's name on everything keeps us in people's minds.
 
Atam the Ork said:
Do we honestly care about brand awareness for minor spells?
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Large companies do this deliberately. Coke did a study where they removed all of the extraneous, seemingly "pointless" advertising you see everywhere that kept coke in the back of people's minds from a single town, and saw their market share plummet. Like, >90% to IIRC 10% plummet. Small, unobtrusive reminders are purely a good thing.
 
ctulhuslp said:
Notably enough, neither Aethyric Armour nor Blessed Weapon have authorship in the name.
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Thats pretty obvious why. By the time Teclis founded the Colleges every other surviving Hedge Witch who could enroll already had some variant of those.

Some spells are so straightforward to want to invent that you might as well try to put your name on a pot. Some spells are just so in tune with their Wind that you can't accidentally arrive at them a hundred different ways.

For those theres no need to name it.
Atam the Ork said:
Do we honestly care about brand awareness for minor spells?
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Dude, minor spells are where its at. Just about any Ulgu wizard can learn this with even journeymen unlikely to face much difficulty.

The hard part is the gap between infamous battle magic known for massacres and the simple spells any wizard is expected to learn sometime on their way to being a Magister.
Pythagoras theorem equivalent.
 
chocolote12 said:
Any sort of spell, down to 'literally this is just a conjured pencil' (Mathilde's Magic Marker?) is valuable and worth putting our name on.
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A spell that creates marks/writing that can only be seen by the intended targets would be a pretty obvious spell of the Lore of Shadows. All sorts of uses, from letters to marking safe houses or targets (such as a kick me sign on an annoying person's face...).

chocolote12 said:
Also, this. Having Mathilde's name on everything keeps us in people's minds.
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This is particularly important if we set up shop in Karak Eight Peaks for a while. Out of sight, very much not out of mind, if there's continual mention of our name in relation to the spell(s) we've invented.

veekie said:
Thats pretty obvious why. By the time Teclis founded the Colleges every other surviving Hedge Witch who could enroll already had some variant of those.
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I somewhat doubt that actually. I expect that kind of standardisation of basic spells is a result of Imperial magic being based on the apprentice exercises that the High Elves used to prepare students to learn High Magic. That's why there's all those common effects where the High Elves somehow worked out to produce near identical results using the different methods of each Wind, even when they aren't intuitively in theme. That's the kind of thing that feels like a lesson to help with understanding all the Winds and how they fit together required for Qhaysh. Them all having the same name may well be connected to that. It doesn't matter for human magisters, as their training isn't intended to end up with High Magic, but Teclis and co were in a hurry, so just reused the very basics of the White Tower's Curriculum and split it up by Wind.

I expect that very little survived of Hedge Wizard magical practice, as with some very few exceptions they would all have been using multiple winds at once to some small degree. Beyond that, they wouldn't have been casting spells as Teclis taught. Hedge Magic is a thing of instinct and unconscious habit. Collegiate magic is a highly structured intellectual practice of consciously controlling the energy of the Winds.
 
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racnor said:
Meanwhile, Kragg; "The human made a NEW SPELL? On the spot? How are those idiots not extinct by now?"
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Fortunately, as Mathilde is a Mysterious Magister™, the dwarves should never know that, and instead have the impression that she's been able to do this for ages, and that it was the product of careful planning, long deliberation, and intensive testing in controlled conditions.
 
So in the Dwarven stories of this event who wants to bet that they are going to alter the story to make Mathilde a Dwarven Ranger of incredible skill.
 
[X] King Belegar Ironhammer
[X] Head Ranger Ulthar Alriksson
[X] Master Runelord Kragg the Grim
[X] Panoramia
[X] Johann
[X] Engineer Durin Wutokri

[X] Mathilde's Mapping Mirage
[X] Mathilde's Mirage Map
[X] Mirage Map

[X] Mathilde's Multidimensional Aethyric Projection
[X] Multidimensional Aethyric Projection
[X] Mathilde's Aethyric Projection

I will say with so many good names right now my only worry is that Malleable Model doesn't end up winning, there is just something about how the name seen to invoke the image of something made out a lump of clay than the 3D Hologram everyone else seen to be going for that makes me fell is the most ilfiting one for our first original Ulgu spell.
 
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