Yeah that is the one. Fuck. Well this makes life a bit difficult.

You can probably just tell me what you want to do and there's a good chance I'll find a way to do it.

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Adhoc vote count started by Deliste on Jul 9, 2019 at 7:17 PM, finished with 159 posts and 14 votes.

  • [X] Offer Lady Lynda Wylde sanctuary in Sorcerer's Deep
    -[X] The Deep is safer until her return to life can be revealed. We can make arrangements for regular visitation with little issue.
    -[X] While in the Deep, Lynda Wylde would receive a considerably safer and far more thorough magical education. We could try to accomodate if she decides she wishes to stay instead, but it wouldn't be nearly as good as if she'd studied in the Scholarum.
    --[X] Highlight that her magic is something we haven't actually seen before, and having her watched over by experts would probably be best just in case.
    -[X] Even if Lynda did decide to stay and we gave her a Greater Ribbon of Disguise, recent events will make hiding in plain sight rather difficult. A suspicious courtier could easily sniff out a cover story we put forth.
    --[X] If, however, they don't budge, give Lynda a Greater Ribbon of Disguise and help her and her father work on a cover story, while arranging for some study material to be sent to her until she can actually learn under a teacher.
    [X] Speak to Lord Casper of House Wylde
    [X] Head to Sothoryos
 
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You can probably just tell me what you want to do and there's a good chance I'll find a way to do it.

Well it already was running into problems anyway but the idea was to use three spells: Detect Aberration, Detect Evil and the spell Varys used to root out spies. Initially the idea was to place statues with the first two spells placed in them in order to root out any obvious spies and the next spell to see (or not see) anyone with Mindblank. The idea with that spell was to see if anyone or anything was acting oddly. Someone talking to air, an item stand which fell over as if hit by something invisible, someone who was bumped into...that sort of thing. Anything odd that looked like an invisible person. Using those in conjecture I wanted to have the Inquisition use them to find spies, especially hidden in Mindblank.

This plan has already hit multiple problems and I am thinking of scraping it.

Edit: Any thoughts?
 
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Well it already was running into problems anyway but the idea was to use three spells: Detect Aberration, Detect Evil and the spell Varys used to root out spies. Initially the idea was to place statues with the first two spells placed in them in order to root out any obvious spies and the next spell to see (or not see) anyone with Mindblank. The idea with that spell was to see if anyone or anything was acting oddly. Someone talking to air, an item stand which fell over as if hit by something invisible, someone who was bumped into...that sort of thing. Anything odd that looked like an invisible person. Using those in conjecture I wanted to have the Inquisition use them to find spies, especially hidden in Mindblank.

This plan has already hit multiple problems and I am thinking of scraping it.

Edit: Any thoughts?

Detect Evil doesn't exist.

Stone Tell basically allowed Varys to get around the Divination block (not sure it should have) to obtain information from a space in the past, but Mindblank does nothing to prevent a creature, including a construct from observing them perfectly fine in real time.

Probably would be cheaper and more efficient to get an observation only Construct for this task.
 
Detect Evil doesn't exist.

Stone Tell basically allowed Varys to get around the Divination block (not sure it should have) to obtain information from a space in the past, but Mindblank does nothing to prevent a creature, including a construct from observing them perfectly fine in real time.

Probably would be cheaper and more efficient to get an observation only Construct for this task.

Explain "Detect Evil doesn't exist". Does the link not work? Or is that something else?

Edit: Also I thought Stone tell worked like arcane eye where the person simply isn't detected by it?
 
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Explain "Detect Evil doesn't exist". Does the link not work? Or is that something else?

@DragonParadox feels that it does not make for good worldbuilding, it allows for "justified" heinous acts.

I agree.

A spell that makes one hungry.

So Feeder daggers can keep on their sweet, sweet 1d4 con damage every hit.

There's a few spells that could perhaps be modified but Hunger/Starvation are negatives in DnD, anything that induces it is meant to debilitate so I'm not sure it's all that helpful to apply for combat reasons.

Thirst is the same if you were thinking that they "drink" the blood.

Vampiric Hunger works without most of those limits but then it does it's own 1d4 Con drain so I'm not sure it's adding much.

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Nvm they need to be pinned, I'm not well versed on the status, I know smaller creatures can Grapple a much larger creature just fine without even needing to inhibit it's movement.

E.g. Stirge, but a pin seems like it should require more, though it doesn't really explain why a pin is required to blood drain.
 
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Ahh in that case could Detect Fiendish Presence have been okay? It isn't detect "Insert alignment" after all. Hmm maybe a construct with at will Detect spells and arcane eye SLA? I have just been wracking my brain here tbh.

You'd have to check with DP, it seems on par with Detect Aberration to me and that is okay.

I like the idea of the construct with at-will but it will probably get expensive quickly.

You'd want something that was very mobile and capable of tagging them/calling for aid or both.

On my Bigger Fish I added an Aberration scent tracking ability so it was more likely to come across a trail rather than banking on running into an individual Aberration. Stacking Scent skills might help you broaden your area of search to where your targets have been rather than where they are right now.
 
On my Bigger Fish I added an Aberration scent tracking ability so it was more likely to come across a trail rather than banking on running into an individual Aberration. Stacking Scent skills might help you broaden your area of search to where your targets have been rather than where they are right now.

I have to ask DP if all devils and all aberrations smell the same...questions I never though I would ask but now am.
 
Ouch, it burns.
Not inaccurate, I suppose :V

But speaking about being an entitled asshole...
@Goldfish! Worm and/or Shadowrun crossover!
@Duesal! More Pseudodragon goodness!
Chop-chop!
(And @Crake? We still remember that promise for Vee in Stranger Things :drevil:)
I'm so lazy... :cry:

I had all last week while on vacation to write, but I kept putting it off until there was no more time. :oops:
 
I have to ask DP if all devils and all aberrations smell the same...questions I never though I would ask but now am.

There are likely feat lines available/modifiable, it seems reasonable that while they may not all smell the same you should be able to tell Type/Subtype.

Hunger for Flesh – d20PFSRD

Dire Hunger – Spell – D&D Tools

Neither spell is quite what you would need, but they're close.

Yeah that's what I meant, it either makes you a worse combatant or an unthinking combatant targeting nearest creature or downed creatures etc.
 
Hey, there is no way a spell makes you hungry without drawbacks. That one has things that can be mitigated at least.

Sorry, just wanted it to be clear. I agree that Hunger and Thirst are negatives so you'd need to modify something to make it work the way you want, a drop to hit isn't ideal but it's better than targeting former allies, the save DC for every hit is harsh though.
 
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Adhoc vote count started by Goldfish on Jul 9, 2019 at 9:45 PM, finished with 111 posts and 8 votes.

  • [X] Offer Lady Lynda Wylde sanctuary in Sorcerer's Deep
    -[X] The Deep is safer until her return to life can be revealed. We can make arrangements for regular visitation with little issue.
    -[X] While in the Deep, Lynda Wylde would receive a considerably safer and far more thorough magical education. We could try to accomodate if she decides she wishes to stay instead, but it wouldn't be nearly as good as if she'd studied in the Scholarum.
    --[X] Highlight that her magic is something we haven't actually seen before, and having her watched over by experts would probably be best just in case.
    -[X] Even if Lynda did decide to stay and we gave her a Greater Ribbon of Disguise, recent events will make hiding in plain sight rather difficult. A suspicious courtier could easily sniff out a cover story we put forth.
    --[X] If, however, they don't budge, give Lynda a Greater Ribbon of Disguise and help her and her father work on a cover story, while arranging for some study material to be sent to her until she can actually learn under a teacher.
 
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