And Scry.
Through a warding that kept out any hedgemage who tried before.

Grafton didn't know shit about magic. Frankly that was sort of threading the needle, I would have preferred not using magic in front of him personally, but it was an easy chance to try making him open minded to conversion.
 
What factions? The LB and Faith?

I'd rather not, we like the LB.

And they aren't stupid. They know the Faith wouldn't desecrate their own temple in the name of another goddess.


Any Faction, so long as it spread that there was a corrupt Septon it should help ignite the tension between the different forces within the Seven's faith pulling into different direction as regards to magic, celestials and demons being a thing now.

Hopefully then we'd be left with a few radical faction that even pious lords couldn't rightly defend (like the faith militant or mobs of witch burners) and more agreeable ones that would be weaker (because they would be less numerous and fighting among each others) and thus less resistant to change and humblings, this seems like a golden opportunity I just don't know how to utilize it.
 
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And I'm disgusted by it since it wears away the actual character of people and robs their stories of all meaning.
What, that everyone decides to become fighter?

I got the impression we have a decent amount of magical craftspeople and tradesmen/women.

The violence perhaps? Someone either being untrained, poorly suited, or morally against fighting?

I'm not really sure where your coming from here.
 
And I'm not seeing your point.
Everyone sane, with the power and knowledge to do so, opposes daemons and demons.

That does not make all these countless different characters the same, just like all of them breathing doesn't make them the same.
No, that's what every flat two-penny hero does. There are allegedly people who decide to do different things with their lives, regardless of the presence or lack of superpowers.
 
What, that everyone decides to become fighter?

I got the impression we have a decent amount of magical craftspeople and tradesmen/women.

The violence perhaps? Someone either being untrained, poorly suited, or morally against fighting?

I'm not really sure where your coming from here.
That nobody seems to have any individual motivation beyond fighting Evil with blades and Fireballs because it's the right thing to do.

There's also no real ambiguity left.
 
Except no one has to know, except our contact point. We can show up as "foreign eastern mage that hates these guys", vouched by the Lantern Bearer we already know.

Problem solved.

We can use a disposable, random disguise when the fighting happens. We are much better for "generic sorcerer" than "old cleric" anyway. LBs aren't ignoramus, it takes one Spellcraft check to say "hold on, that's not a divine spell!".
Exept Viserys can use plenty of divine-only spells?
 
[X] Azel.
Its probably more advantageous to have Dywin handle this, but it would make his character less interesting. Its like giving batman a gun, it just kinda takes the fun out of it unless the character is facing a crisis of faith.
 
No, that's what every flat two-penny hero does. There are allegedly people who decide to do different things with their lives, regardless of the presence or lack of superpowers.
I mean hero is an archtype. You can have various type of heros. Pragmatic scheamers like visareys or heroic knights like waymar. Or an6 diffrent type. That dosent make their story bad.
That nobody seems to have any individual motivation beyond fighting Evil with blades and Fireballs because it's the right thing to do.

There's also no real ambiguity left.
Why must there be ambaguity. Like if you dont fight deamon they kill you. How is that bad motivation.
 
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I mean hero is an archtype. You can have various type of heros. Pragmatic scheamers like visareys or heroic knights like waymar. Or an6 diffrent type. That dosent make their story bad.
No, but if everyone becomes a hero, then the illusion of the world we're protecting becomes bent, as it becomes harder and harder to find anyone living a 'normal' life.
 
I mean hero is an archtype. You can have various type of heros. Pragmatic scheamers like visareys or heroic knights like waymar. Or an6 diffrent type. That dosent make their story bad.

That isn't his point. He is saying that every time someone has gotten power they have decided to use swords and spells to fight evil rather than use words and ideas. He made Dywen into a talker. Someone who's ideas fought evil. Dywen can fight but would prefer to use it as a last resort. At least that is the gist I got. This correct @Azel?
 
I mean let's be real Dywin is basically an archetype of the Doctor, and regardless of how bad a situation gets the doctor never leads with violence. It's only if the situation become seriously untenable that they'd even think of it.
 
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That nobody seems to have any individual motivation beyond fighting Evil with blades and Fireballs because it's the right thing to do.

There's also no real ambiguity left.
I think there's an issue with confusing evil and demons.

Evil can be useful, can be profitable, can be good for the individual and his personal motivations.
But the average demon always makes everything they come in contact with inherently worse.
If you care about anything, even just your own life or profits, or a particular person or town or really anything, then trying to oppose demons however you can is the only sensible thing to do.

Edit: Same for Daemons. There's some more room for Devils since they don't always make things immediatly worse, but in the long term you can't want their plans to succede either.
 
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Why must there be ambaguity. Like if you dont fight deamon they kill you. How is that bad motivation.
I don't know, but when the members of your totalitarian police state start discussing how Pure, Good and Heroic they are and how Bad and Evil everything would be if someone except the Perfect PC was running everything, then things become rather bland.

Trying to turn the few personas we got who aren't part of the Generic Forces Of Besting Evil With Fireballs into just more of the same is basically layering more cardboard on it.
That isn't his point. He is saying that every time someone has gotten power they have decided to use swords and spells to fight evil rather than use words and ideas. He made Dywen into a talker. Someone who's ideas fought evil. Dywen can fight but would prefer to use it as a last resort. At least that is the gist I got. This correct @Azel?
Yes. He was meant as a man of morals and conviction, not blasting the opposition into giblets.
I do not think that the argument is that it is bad per say more that you are using the mask of a scholar/teacher to sling batle spells, it hollows out the identity by turning the mysterious wanderer into a battle mage, at least that is what I got.

Is that about right @Azel?
Pretty much. I mean, we got... 50+ Generic Wandering Heroes in our own employ right now? Why exactly do we need another one-dimensional beatstick?
 
That nobody seems to have any individual motivation beyond fighting Evil with blades and Fireballs because it's the right thing to do.

There's also no real ambiguity left.
I see quite a bit of ambiguity actually.

The dothraki, the plane of fire, our treaty with the deep ones, mass human sacrifice, ect...

It's just... Perhaps we've been pushing the "we are the light" narrative TOO effectively?

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@Azel never mind. You cleared it up.
 
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You do all realize that you all are debating for the past two pages, on how would an imaginary personality of an imaginary person should act right?

Or am I just imagining things :V
 
I think there's an issue with confusing evil and demons.

Evil can be useful, can be profitable, can be good for the individual and his personal motivations.
But the average demon always makes everything they come in contact with inherently worse.
If you care about anything, even just your own life or profits, or a particular person or town or really anything, then trying to oppose demons however you can is the only sensible thing to do.

Assuming you have the inclination/skills for it.So far there has been no indication that he is a battle mage at all, much less that he is inclined to fight in anything other than desperate self-defense.
 
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  • [X] Honesty and Deception v2
    -[X] Make a note to look into the Shermer household with nonmagical means, specifically their actions in recent months and what power the family holds within Oldtown.
    -[X] Scry the Lantern Bearer that you saw observing the Smith's Sept, with the aim of finding a way to make contact.
    --[X] Make your introduction in the guise of Dywen, a powerful follower of the Old Gods, whose dreams have led him to the city and the infestation within.
    ---[X] If it would be in keeping with thematics, say that in those dreams that you were guided towards the Lantern Bearers, as the true magical protectors of the city.
    --[X] Before speaking further, offer a blessing to veil the man's actions from the vision of the Bitch Queen's servants, explaining that they divine six times a day if they will be attacked.
    --[X] If he accepts, proceed to explain as much as you know of the conspiracy within the Sept. Offer your aid to the Lantern Bearers to strike this corruption from their city. If asked why one who follows the Old Gods would wish to worshipers of the Seven, point out that it is not for them, but those deceived in their prayers that you have come to aid. The power that has come to infest the Smith's Sept cannot be allowed to simply persist with the Conclave so close at hand.
    ---[X] Dywen's focus on the Conclave in this is driven by his primarily peaceful nature, awareness of the powers of those within the Sept, and the entirely human desire to not place hundreds or thousands of lives in danger - as Faithful will surely flock to the city as the Conclave gathers.
    --[X] If questions on his ability to actually aid an assault, promise blessings of the Old Gods (tangible and real) and healing to any who might require it after the battle is done. If pushed, offer that you are a man poorly suited to violence, but if it is truly necessary, you could work to stymie that magics of your shared foes.
    -[X] Meanwhile, Lya and the rest of the party are to plan out an assault on the manse. Vee is to summon several Thoqqua with SNA to get a picture of the ground floor and any guard routes via their Tremorsense ability, and that plan will be used to build a swift assault on the building with the aim of securing as many captives as quietly as possible. If there is sufficient time after combat, magic is to be used to repair as much damage as possible, to make it appear that the Golden Company cell simply ran.
    --[X] Ensure that any sign of the mutated Darkenbeast is purged.
    [X] Keep Dywen out of this. He is vastly more useful as a peaceful preacher attending the conclave then as another facade to lob combat spells around from.
    [X] Contact the Lantern Bearers
    -[X] Look for the one you met, he seemed reasonable enough. Do Mindblank him before you reveal any critical information, however.
    -[X] Do reveal to him the situation as you know it, that an enemy of yours seeks to besmirch your name and, on the way of foiling then, you've discovered their operations run far deeper than you've previously thought, and you've and stumbled upon a Deep One infiltration literally next-door on top of that. Ask about his plans and any knowledge he has on the GC/Tia-chan's demons, and the Deep Ones house.
    [X] Snowfire's Plan but as Tisery- Master Liu
 
Interlude CDXLIX: Upon Fire's Edge
Upon Fire's Edge

Fifth Day of the Ninth Month 293 AC

Aemon Naremos had never thought of himself as one overly enamored with life's small luxuries. If he had been then he never would have taken the long arduous path to arcane power, one in which comfort was often the first and the least sacrifice. Yet as he looked up at the worn stone hill upon which rested a half ruined caravanserai of reddish stone and cracked wood he could not deny a pang of regret for the small but comfortable manse he had left behind.

"Having second thoughts already?" Aeron asked, bringing his shadow steed level with his brother's. There was a hint of serious concern beneath the jesting tone. The ink was barely dry on the documents that proclaimed him owner of the remaining Naremos assets in Volantene lands.

"Just considering how much sweeter it will be when I make these lands surpass anything father could have dreamed of," the mage replied.

"Father, you say? What about me?" the younger brother asked in mock-affront.

"Do you plan to rusticate?" Aemon asked dryly as they both spurred their arcane mounts to a steady trot.

"I'm doing it this month, aren't I? Perhaps I will come to like it," came the instant reply.

"Indeed, and perhaps cats will develop a taste for swimming, though I shall not hold my breath in anticipation."

Aeron threw his head back and laughed, sparks and shadows dancing all around him as his tempestuous power moved with him.

***​

Sixteenth Day of the Ninth Month 293 AC

It was a relief when the first of the colonists from Mantarys arrived along with the first of the couriers that had started traveling not just along the Dragon Road, but the lesser paths also. A reminder for the locals that there was a wider realm out there should any of them take it into their head to revert to brigandage and petty feuding. More importantly, the town growing up around the the caravanserai now had actual craftsmen worth the name—smiths and potters, weavers and tanners.

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Aemon's Rest would soon have more to offer travelers than simply the only convenient source of fresh water in thirty leagues. In due time they might even send out their own traders out towards Mantarys and Volantis with rare herbs and other reagents drawn from the magic-touched earth that had been the reason Aemon chose these lands to begin with.

Alas that it was not only the earth that was magical. The first sign he had that something was amiss was the shadow falling over his desk as the light of the noontime sun abruptly dimmed. A storm, he thought as he moved to open the mage lantern. Then his eyes wandered past the window. A storm it was indeed, but not of anything so common as rain and lightning. A vast cloud of ash flowed forth from the southeast borne upon a scorching wind.

At once the lord moved to call orders to his people to bring man and beast under a roof, thanking good fortune that he had not yet sent out anyone to break ground for new villages. But at the same time Aemon the mage was struggling against excitement. Arcane weather often brought with it transformations upon the land and strange beasts ripe for his experiments.

Thus it was with no hesitation whatsoever that he set off with his brother and a handful of his best guardsmen into the storm to look for the shepherds and guide them back. It would win him favor with the locals while doing something he would have done in any case.

***​

"Did you hear that?" Aeron called as the wind shifted slightly. "It almost sounded like laughter."

"I did, yes," the elder brother replied, grimacing at the bitter taste of ash in his mouth. The cackling came again, almost impossible to catch against the whipping wind. "Be on your guard," he called back to his men, hoping they would be as good in a fight as they were on the sparring field. He had been in enough fights against monsters and other mages to know that the first test of any warrior when first confronted with them was simply not turning tail and running.

The man at the end of the line never got a chance to prove his mettle as a hulking shadow of ash-grey and crimson flame leapt upon him, tearing out his throat before the body hit the ground.

The laughter revolved into a sort of chant in the tongue of fire, though it gained nothing of reason in the doing: "Burn... crackle... blacken... die... die... die..."

A burning fey emerged from the ash-fall about fifty feet ahead of Aemon, its misshapen bat-like ears twitching, its lips pulled back into a smile that looked too wide for its face to reveal dozens of needle-like teeth. "At last... at last... fool mage... your men are dead, their sheep-beasts also. Now only the wolves remain."


As it spoke more of the hulking dark shapes could be glimpsed circling all around them, their eyes like hungry embers. They were wolves, though not of any common sort, their coats were cinder, their gaze of flame, their teeth of black dragonglass. The largest of the pack moved out into full view to lay its head under the fire-fey's head, clearly in the grip of some enchantment.


The thing obviously thought to overawe them, but Aemon was already calculating its worth alive or dead and swiftly concluded that it was worth far more than a handful of shepherds and forty-two sheep.

"Kneel before Yozg, mortals, and through me to mighty Ymeri, and some of you may yet live to serve her glorious power!" the thing called.

"I have a counter-proposal," Aemon replied silkily, the crackling tongue of flame exacting upon his tongue. "Leave at once and return with recompense for the harm done to my lands and people and I shall simply kill you rather than dipping your skull in gold and setting it atop my new staff for all the world to witness your folly."

As the mage had hoped the grotesque fey answered with wrath, spitting forth a spell of flame and ruin or trying to at least, for he was ready his words entangling and picking apart the enchantment before it could come into being.

Aeron needed no further signal, leaping from his horse, his own magic drawing shades and phantasms from the ash to distract the wolves even as his blade cut the monster true. Then the wolves closed in.

Ash and blood mingled, fire guttered upon steel, and the warriors of Draconys proved themselves no cowards, whatever other sins they may have had. Another of their number was pulled down into the dust to perish, but the servant of Ymeri paid like price for his trespass, by sword and spell undone until he crumbled into the wind, leaving naught but gleaming ebony bones behind.

At the battle's end as even the ash-storm began to abate, Aemon collected the bones quietly then walked over to one of the wolf corpses and kicked it experimentally. "Flesh, not deathless spirit, though touched by fire's kiss." He turned back towards his surviving men: "Do any of you know how to track in this?"

The elder of the two swallowed. "Aye, Kaelos, I do. It's easier than on dirt and stone..."

"Good," the mage pointed at the other. "You, go back to town and gather a party to retrieve the bodies and wolf carcasses for skinning and processing, the rest of us have a den to find."

Find it they did indeed in a deep cave besides noxious springs, the wolves left to guard it easily dispatched, leaving Aemon in the possession of thirteen Cinder Wolf pups. He already had more than enough reagents. Perhaps the king would be interested in new beasts for his menagerie.

OOC: The roll for Aemon's settling in was a lot more exciting than I anticipated.
 
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