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A Sword Without a Hilt: A Song of Ice and Fire/D&D 3.5 Crossover

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MTB said:
That just forces DP to come up with counters.
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I dare say that anything that can shrug off a full broadside from as many cannons as a battleship isn't something that can be slain by conventional means in the first place.

And if it can be slain by conventional means, use two battleship's worth.

Just to be extra sure.
 
Crake said:
I dare say that anything that can shrug off a full broadside from as many cannons as a battleship isn't something that can be slain by conventional means in the first place.

And if it can be slain by conventional means, use two battleship's worth.

Just to be extra sure.
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Being incorporeal would be a cheap start.
 
Snowfire said:
I was just considering a permanent upgrade to the Snare, actually. Automagically aimed wands of Reached Shivering Touch spaced around the edge of the chamber, in range of the summoning circle, that we can fire as a free action.
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See, this is why I'd rather here be some gimmick limiting the amount of wands we can make.

When you bring out shivering touch, everyone is either immune or irrelevant.
 
DragonParadox said:
"Ever since the new Lord and Lady of Castamere took Tywin's dwarf son under their wing they have been subtly measuring the support for his succession among the lords. This could of course be no more than foresight in the event of the Old Lion's passing, but it might also be the beginning of a deeper intrigue. History has accounts aplenty of a son usurping the father, and the view from Castamere looking east to your new conquests must be bleak indeed."
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What would we do if this happened? It's one thing to destroy the Lannister name under Tywin, if Tyrion took his place and surrendered, it would suddenly be far less an easy decision.
 
@Duesal - Here's an idea for Stannis, and by extent Fenly and Davos. We tell them everything. Everything.

I'm serious. We use our cred with him to call a private meeting only with people who explicitly know the extent of our relationship - i.e., Davos and Fenly. And then we tell them everything that's going with Westeros. We tell him about the Deep Ones, we tell them about the Others, we tell them about the Devils, Demons, and Daemons, and in detail. Like, we inform them what exactly they've been doing on the mortal world, who's been subverted, all the damage - everything. We tell them about the twincest, we tell them what the Faith's been up to, we tell about the Fey and we tell them about what the Lannisters have done - mention the brainwashing by Tywin in specific. We tell them that our deep cover agent Varys has been literally keeping Robert alive from his cuckolding wife's attempts to murder him because if he dies Westeros will explode. The reason we haven't invaded yet and fixed all this shit, is that all of this? Essos was worse. At least Westeros has factions like the Faith and Lannisters running around putting out fires, even if they're half the damn problem.

At the end, we take Stannis aside, and man-to-man tell him we won't hold it against him if he goes to Robert with all of what we've revealed ... but he should seriously consider what that would actually accomplish. Because we need at least a year to unfuck the situation across the Narrow Sea, and if all hell breaks loose in Westeros we won't be able to save it.
 
Crake said:
Right now we don't need our superlatively loyal and adoring Legions to actively be worshiping someone who mainlines the stuff they give off like a former coke addict falling off the wagon again.

You want subverted military might?

That's how you get subverted military might.

They should have one "god", and its name is the Imperium.
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Most of the men in our legion are probably worshipping one God or another. Meraxes just makes it so that their is another god in the mix, diluting the power of the rest, especially burny, who the majority of our men probably worship. Any god that can compete with him is a good thing. Especially a goddess who tells her follower to never rebel against the State. Valyrian gods are also pretty fucking hands off from what we know, one of the reasons why I like them.
 
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LonelyWolf999 said:
@Duesal - Here's an idea for Stannis, and by extent Fenly and Davos. We tell them everything. Everything.

I'm serious. We use our cred with him to call a private meeting only with people who explicitly know the extent of our relationship - i.e., Davos and Fenly. And then we tell them everything that's going with Westeros. We tell him about the Deep Ones, we tell them about the Others, we tell them about the Devils, Demons, and Daemons, and in detail. Like, we inform them what exactly they've been doing on the mortal world, who's been subverted, all the damage - everything. We tell them about the twincest, we tell them what the Faith's been up to, we tell about the Fey and we tell them about what the Lannisters have done - mention the brainwashing by Tywin in specific. We tell them that our deep cover agent Varys has been literally keeping Robert alive from his cuckolding wife's attempts to murder him because if he dies Westeros will explode. The reason we haven't invaded yet and fixed all this shit, is that all of this? Essos was worse. At least Westeros has factions like the Faith and Lannisters running around putting out fires, even if they're half the damn problem.

At the end, we take Stannis aside, and man-to-man tell him we won't hold it against him if he goes to Robert with all of what we've revealed ... but he should seriously consider what that would actually accomplish. Because we need at least a year to unfuck the situation across the Narrow Sea, and if all hell breaks loose in Westeros we won't be able to save it.
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... Telling Stannis about the twincest would probably do it.
 
Duesal said:
... Telling Stannis about the twincest would probably do it.
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The big deal is, what is he supposed to do? He knows just how fragile the situation is already, we're just spelling out the extent of the damage, making it clear our victory is literally guaranteed - we're just tied down saving Essos. The only moral and rational option he possibly has is to sign on with us.
 
Telling Stannis is an interesting thought.Technically with the illegitimacy of the three heirs he is the heir apparent as the eldest brother. Fenly is out of the question because he is a fey. If we tell him and he tells Robert we will have a civil war. If we he doesn't then we still have problems in the Westeros department. Next month is the plot to implicate us as a monster. We cant afford to tell him next month. We will have too much on our plate.
 
Telling Stannis means telling Robert. And having Stannis act on the knowledge. It's the right thing to do.
 
One Autumn Leaf said:
Telling Stannis is an interesting thought.Technically with the illegitimacy of the three heirs he is the heir apparent as the eldest brother. Fenly is out of the question because he is a fey. If we tell him and he tells Robert we will have a civil war. If we he doesn't then we still have problems in the Westeros department. Next month is the plot to implicate us as a monster. We cant afford to tell him next month. We will have too much on our plate.
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Stannis presumably isn't Mind Blanked, so we can do Augury before we meet with him to determine how favorable laying out the truth will be for us.
MTB said:
Telling Stannis means telling Robert. And having Stannis act on the knowledge. It's the right thing to do.
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Not necessarily.

In canon Stannis was well aware of the twincest, yet instead of acting on it and honorably defending Robert he fled to Dragonstone.

There is some practicality in him.
 
MTB said:
Telling Stannis means telling Robert. And having Stannis act on the knowledge. It's the right thing to do.
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That's why we're not just telling him about the twincest, we're telling him about everything. Stannis is committed to the law, but he's not sociopathic or retarded. He'll understand the implications of a civil war.

Also, would Robert even believe him? Stannis would have to explain how he knew, after all.
 
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  • [X] Westeros Intel 3.0
    -[X] Ask of great secrets among the Westerosi that Varys is aware of (like the "royal" children's true parentage, but it doesn't need to be of the same importance)
    -[X] Get a full update on everything he knows that's going on in King's Landing
    --[X] DEVILS INTEL
    ---[X] Ask of what Varys knows of Mammon's plans with Westeros
    ----[X] Specifically where the hatched dragons are, and where various cabals are operating
    ----[X] Get the true names of all the fiends that Varys knows while you're at it (especially that Brachina in Highgarden)
    -----[X] Expanding on this, get the names of all Outsiders (Native and True) in general that Varys is aware of
    ----[X] Get more specifics on where all the cabals are operating, what types of devils are running around in each location, which lords have been subverted or enthralled, etc.
    -[X] OFFER ASSISTANCE TO BLOODRAVEN
    --[X] Ask what Bloodraven has been up to.
    ---[X] To start, does he have any plans he'd like help on? We've already got two of his stronger assets -- Danar Crowl and Alyssa Grafton -- as permanent residents of Sorcerer's Deep. We can provide teleportation and firepower if the mission is important enough.
    ---[X] Ask for the names and locations of the various septons Bloodraven has been cultivating so that you can possibly plan for them later on.
    --[X] We are allies with the Shaitan and the Djinn now, so if there's ever a magic item that Bloodraven needs for his operations he can ask us so long as it's not cripplingly expensive.
    -[X] THE FEY
    --[X] Ask what Bloodraven and Varys will be able to tell you of the various fey courts of Westeros. Which ones, like the one in the Riverlands, are reasonable? Which ones should we watch out for? Where are they located? What are each of them known for?
    --[X] Ask for everything Bloodraven and Varys will be able to tell you of the Court of Stars, including history, intel on their rulers, their enemies, etc.
    ---[X] If it is safe to do so, reveal the Crown of Flowers to Bloodraven, along with your plan to make the fey court swear fealty unto you if they wish to stay in Westeros as the price for the crown's return.
    ---[X] Ask whatever Bloodraven is able to tell you of Garth Greenhand and how he was able to win the Crown of Flowers from the Court of Stars
    ---[X] What can Bloodraven and Varys tell you of the operations of the Court of Stars? We'd rather not be caught off guard by another surprise visit from a mythic fey trying to retrieve treasure from our territory.
    -[X] STANNIS
    --[X] Update Bloodraven on our goals of keeping Stannis alive and outside the coming conquest, and for that to happen he needs to not take a seat at the Small Council. We had various ideas before we captured Varys (mostly involving relying on Cersei's stupidity), but now that we actually have him and will soon be impersonating both him and Pycelle, does Bloodraven have suggestions on how best to subvert the appointment?
    --[X] Get news on the Stormlands in general.
    -[X] LOOT AND MAPS
    --[X] In short, any and all intel of Westeros which we would consider useful should be gathered here
    ---[X] Especially loot, tell us all about the loot we'd want to know about
    ----[X] How many Valyrian Dragon eggs in Westeros is Varys aware of, and where are they?
    ----[X] Does he know where the Royce ancestral Valyrian Steel blade is?
    --[X] Take your Map of Westeros, as well as the individual maps of each of the Seven Kingdoms (Map of the North, Map of the Vale, Map of the Riverlands, Map of the Stormlands, Map of the Westerlands, Map of the Iron Islands, Map of the Crownlands, Map of the Reach, Map of Dorne), and have Bloodraven scan through Varys' mind, then update the maps to include the locations of supernatural creatures that Varys is aware of, like fey courts, local monstrous humanoids, openings to the Underdark, lairs of Winterborn servants, etc., everything that Varys has heard about and kept track of, along with updating them with whatever intel Bloodraven may be willing to share.
    --[X] Ask Bloodraven to scan Varys' mind and make you a full Map of the Red Keep, complete with secret tunnels, hidden chambers, etc.
    --[X] Ask Bloodraven to make a Map of King's Landing using Varys' intelligence.
    ---[X] If he is worried about the information being divined, these particular maps will always be under our Mind Blank and will be stored in our cloak unless we're personally using them.
    --[X] Can Bloodraven do us a favor and point us to the adamantine mine wherever it may be near Dyre Den? If we're told where it is we can tell Lord Brune where to start mining and help him diversify his income.
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